Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

ELM327

To give Hyundai and the Ioniq its due, it really seems to have created a buzz around EVs. This is the first EV in my opinion where the compromises are within sight of an older ICE car. The quick fast charging time really makes it a contender for most families whereas the likes of a leaf, zoe, etc are not really there yet.

Mope

Welcome on board you two new to be IONIQ'ers ;]]]]

I just crossed 5000 KM mark this weekend on mine since 11th April. All happy miles :-] Still loving the car.

positron

Spotted a white Ioniq electric on M50 southbound an hour ago. First one I have seen in the wild. Looking good!

ray o

Test dove one last week. I was hoping for the 24hrs but the insurance company wanted €50 to transfer my cover over for the day. This was due to the difference in value in my banger and that of the new Ioniq and so I was not giving the wagons any more of my cash.

From the time I did drive it I was impressed and could certainly see myself buying one were it not for one thing - the boot is just too small for my needs. I just couldn't justify buying a new car with less boot space than the MKIV Golf I would be giving in.

woppers

ray o wrote: »

Test dove one last week. I was hoping for the 24hrs but the insurance company wanted €50 to transfer my cover over for the day. This was due to the difference in value in my banger and that of the new Ioniq and so I was not giving the wagons any more of my cash.

From the time I did drive it I was impressed and could certainly see myself buying one were it not for one thing - the boot is just too small for my needs. I just couldn't justify buying a new car with less boot space than the MKIV Golf I would be giving in.

Who is your insurance with?

I only ask because I'm with Aviva and when I rang to transfer over first a week long test drive they told me over the phone that if I transfer my insurance over the phone they'd have to charge me €25 but if I hung up and transferred it myself online that it'd be free.

So I did it online myself.

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

To give Hyundai and the Ioniq its due, it really seems to have created a buzz around EVs. This is the first EV in my opinion where the compromises are within sight of an older ICE car. The quick fast charging time really makes it a contender for most families whereas the likes of a leaf, zoe, etc are not really there yet.

The Zoe happens to have the most range and the most versatile charger of any affordable EV available in Ireland.

250-280 kms range for the 40 Kwh version. Charge in 50 mins from fast AC or 2 hrs from any SCP. No available affordable EV can beat this.

Zoe is by far "there yet"

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

The Zoe happens to have the most range and the most versatile charger of any affordable EV available in Ireland.

250-280 kms range for the 40 Kwh version. Charge in 50 mins from fast AC or 2 from any SCP. No EV can beat this.

Zoe is by far "there yet"

It's the closest in terms of range, but it is a city/mini car.

In order for mass adoption we need something with the Zoe NEDC range but in the real world, combined with ioniq levels of fast charging, and in that size of car (with optional crossover SUV Qashqai segment) . IMO of course.

The Zoe ZE40 is available for sale now, but I don't see many (any) being sold here. Every new EV I see is an Ioniq, and every imported one is a Leaf.

The difference is that you don't have to charge the Zoe as much due to the much larger battery and it takes a very high level of AC charging from the many available slow charge points which are not that slow to Zoe.

Yes it's a small car but the Ioniq isn't that much larger.

While the Ioniq charges about 20 Kw faster on DC Zoe charges much faster on AC by 15 Kw.

And Zoe can travel about 50-80 Kms further.

Fiery mutant

Do we have any real world data on the Zoe range. I consistently get 230km in my Ioniq. I would drive probably the way the average person drives, not too hard, but I don't drive miss daisy either.

230 ? I find this absolutely amazing considering I would have got about 180 max on my test drive at 110 Kph.

zilog_jones

ELM327 wrote: »

It's the closest in terms of range, but it is a city/mini car.

It's not that small, it's a supermini like the Clio.

ray o

woppers wrote: »

Who is your insurance with?

I only ask because I'm with Aviva and when I rang to transfer over first a week long test drive they told me over the phone that if I transfer my insurance over the phone they'd have to charge me €25 but if I hung up and transferred it myself online that it'd be free.

So I did it online myself.

AXA - I must look in to the online option. Thanks for the tip.

Fiery mutant

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230 ? I find this absolutely amazing considering I would have got about 180 max on my test drive at 110 Kph.

I guess it depends on drive you do I guess. I wouldn't drive motorway regularly, would mainly be good regional roads. But when I do drive Motorway, say to the parents, which would be n4 from kinnegad, then m50/m11 to Greystones, I would still probably get 11.5 - 12kwh/100km.

listermint

Deleted User wrote: »

The Zoe happens to have the most range and the most versatile charger of any affordable EV available in Ireland.

250-280 kms range for the 40 Kwh version. Charge in 50 mins from fast AC or 2 hrs from any SCP. No available affordable EV can beat this.

Zoe is by far "there yet"

Renault are doing an atrocious job with the Zoe here, You get the impression that they marketing or sales team were bittin by the Fluence and Zoe Gen 1 debacle where they sold *feck all of them and spent alot of money getting it out there.

This time around they are really doing nothing in terms of any advertisement, promotion or even test drives. In fact its doing the car a disservice and the companys electric ambitions even less.

No one here still seems to have any real world figures or test drive experience of the new car.

Fiery mutant

I love being a part of the 'tsunami' as he calls it.

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/2017/0509/873841-life-in-the-electric-lane-no-more-fuel-bills/

Fiery mutant

Fiery mutant wrote: »

I guess it depends on drive you do I guess. I wouldn't drive motorway regularly, would mainly be good regional roads. But when I do drive Motorway, say to the parents, which would be n4 from kinnegad, then m50/m11 to Greystones, I would still probably get 11.5 - 12kwh/100km.

Easy to say when you don't have the Zoe !

listermint

listermint wrote: »

Renault are doing an atrocious job with the Zoe here, You get the impression that they marketing or sales team were bittin by the Fluence and Zoe Gen 1 debacle where they sold *feck all of them and spent alot of money getting it out there.

This time around they are really doing nothing in terms of any advertisement, promotion or even test drives. In fact its doing the car a disservice and the companys electric ambitions even less.

No one here still seems to have any real world figures or test drive experience of the new car.

I'll be test driving one hopefully in 2 weeks.

I've had equally good experience with Renault in carlow as I had with Hyundai In Carlow.

Both Hyundai and Renault are not advertising. So it's not just Renault.

liamog

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I'll be test driving one hopefully in 2 weeks.

I've had equally good experience with Renault in carlow as I had with Hyundai In Carlow.

Both Hyundai and Renault are not advertising. So it's not just Renault.

You have to wonder why the Ioniq is selling so well then

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'll be test driving one hopefully in 2 weeks.

I've had equally good experience with Renault in carlow as I had with Hyundai In Carlow.

Both Hyundai and Renault are not advertising. So it's not just Renault.

People on here were contacting Renault Ireland for months for information on it. They had none.

They are handling it badly and will need to adjust fast.

BoatMad

ELM327 wrote: »

To give Hyundai and the Ioniq its due, it really seems to have created a buzz around EVs. This is the first EV in my opinion where the compromises are within sight of an older ICE car. The quick fast charging time really makes it a contender for most families whereas the likes of a leaf, zoe, etc are not really there yet.

Very little difference in charging time between leaf 30 kWh and ioniq , with current ecars chargers

BoatMad

liamog wrote: »

You have to wonder why the Ioniq is selling so well then

New car buzz , lets see what's happens next year

Remember EVs market share is rising , it's not a replacement market like ice.

BoatMad

Fiery mutant wrote: »

Do we have any real world data on the Zoe range. I consistently get 230km in my Ioniq. I would drive probably the way the average person drives, not too hard, but I don't drive miss daisy either.

Given the EPA range is 200km and this is to effectively empty , I find your claim hard to beleive, the nedc range is 250 km and that's impossible to replicate in real life

Fiery mutant

My work trip is a 62km trip. I do 3 clean, normally have about 40km left, do a top up then to make sure I have enough to get home. I'll be charging tonight, so I'll post up images tomorrow of my trip counter after I get home.

BoatMad

BoatMad wrote: »

Very little difference in charging time between leaf 30 kWh and ioniq , with current ecars chargers

I wouldn't say that, the Ioniq charges 20 Kw more which makes a big difference.

23-90% in 25 mins. Can't remember what it got to 80% .

BoatMad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wouldn't say that, the Ioniq charges 20 Kw more which makes a big difference.

23-90% in 25 mins. Can't remember what it got to 80% .

These are 50 kw chargers it can't charge any faster

23-90% in 25 is not dissimilar to what I get in the 30 kWh. ( considerably faster then 24 leaf )

listermint

listermint wrote: »

People on here were contacting Renault Ireland for months for information on it. They had none.

They are handling it badly and will need to adjust fast.

But once it's available and people are aware about it we will see what happens.

From what I hear they will start an advertising campaign which might generate a lot of interest among enthusiasts only, I don't expect the likes of clio drivers to switch due to the cost of the car.

It's also a bit of a bad time considering the Ioniq is a new model and a lot might hold out to see what Leaf II will bring, so I don't think that if Zoe 40 sells bad that it's all down to Renault + a lot of people might still be in lease until January myself included, but that wouldn't stop anyone changing now for instance.

If I were to change jobs in the next few weeks for instance and had no work charging the Zoe 40 would be on the top of my list and the 24 Kwh Leaf would be gone. Although easier said than done when it comes down to it.

rgunning

BoatMad wrote: »

Given the EPA range is 200km and this is to effectively empty , I find your claim hard to beleive, the nedc range is 250 km and that's impossible to replicate in real life

I reliably get 210 km in mine. It has been getting to 220 km in the warmer weather. I've been going since February. My commute is 35 km each way every day. Combined with a bit of running around with the weekend. I charge in work 2 - 3 times a week.

Everything going fine so far. I had an issue with a squeaky brake when going at low speeds. Apparently this was a recall that was needed. It sounded awful when turning at low speeds after having been parked. It was sorted with minimum fuss and no cost by Hyundai.

My longest trip so far was from Dun Laoghaire to Portumna and back. Charged to 92% at Park Point FCS. Made it down to Roscrea where I topped up and went to the loo. I was going at 120 kph on the way down all the way when legal. That tool my on to Portumna where I parked up at the station. When the car was charged I went back home with the kids. I took is fairly easy going back (100 kph tops) and made it back to Dun Laoghaire with just about enough range for my morning commute, but I topped up my range with the granny cable.

I have not installed the home point yet. My fuse box is at the back of my house unfortunately and the Missus will not countenance having surface wiring to the front where it is needed. Does anyone have any experience with this when having the free point installation?

Also, just renewed my insurance. I was with Post but called Zurich to see what they would offer as they have specialised EV insurance. I was very happy with what they offered and transferred straight away. Worth checking what they are offering though obviously it depends.

ELM327

BoatMad wrote: »

These are 50 kw chargers it can't charge any faster

23-90% in 25 is not dissimilar to what I get in the 30 kWh. ( considerably faster then 24 leaf )

It can and does, at many stations
Look at the plugshare photo of an ioniq charging at above 60kW at the Naas FCP for instance.

woppers

When you guys were ordering your Ioniq did you get to choose any optional extras?

In the video which compares the electric Ioniq and hybrid Ioniq I noticed that the electric Ioniq had black plastic on the front instead of grey, it had a heated steering wheel and leather seats.

And when I was getting quotes for insurance there is always 2 Ioniq's to choose from and a premium Ioniq is one of the options.

Oafley Jones

woppers wrote: »

When you guys were ordering your Ioniq did you get to choose any optional extras?

In the video which compares the electric Ioniq and hybrid Ioniq I noticed that the electric Ioniq had black plastic on the front instead of grey, it had a heated steering wheel and leather seats.

And when I was getting quotes for insurance there is always 2 Ioniq's to choose from and a premium Ioniq is one of the options.

I'm guessing that leather seats/heated steering wheel are part of the Premium Plus spec, which isn't available here on the EV.

Dont be at yourself

Leather can be fitted for an extra €1,500 - €2,000. Don't think there's any other extras available.

stesaurus

ELM327 wrote: »

It can and does, at many stations
Look at the plugshare photo of an ioniq charging at above 60kW at the Naas FCP for instance.

I had heard this before and it seemed odd. So I was interested in checking my i3 recently while charging and had a nose while in Portlaoise. When I checked it was charging at 57kW, might have been higher at some point as it was tapering down to 53kW in the 30 seconds I spent watching.
It's definitely charger dependant as when i checked in Cullenmore it maxed out at 46kW and stayed at that while at a lower % overall.

punisher5112

I've seen the Zoe EV advertising on many bus shelters showing 0% finance.

ELM327

stesaurus wrote: »

I had heard this before and it seemed odd. So I was interested in checking my i3 recently while charging and had a nose while in Portlaoise. When I checked it was charging at 57kW, might have been higher at some point as it was tapering down to 53kW in the 30 seconds I spent watching.
It's definitely charger dependant as when i checked in Cullenmore it maxed out at 46kW and stayed at that while at a lower % overall.

An Ioniq is even faster than your I3 and will charge at above 60.
I think it depends on local supply.

ELM327

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've seen the Zoe EV advertising on many bus shelters showing 0% finance.

Is that for the ZE40?:eek:

VikingG

Serious Question: Does anyone have a price for the IONIQ plugin hybrid? dont see it on their website

and I love that IONIQ comes with a Duel Zone climate control. I know that things can get heated if we get lost when I am driving but not so sure I would call it a Duel Zone

Evd-Burner

ELM327 wrote: »

Is that for the ZE40?:eek:

I am also very interested in this.

goz83

VikingG wrote: »

Serious Question: Does anyone have a price for the IONIQ plugin hybrid? dont see it on their website

and I love that IONIQ comes with a Duel Zone climate control. I know that things can get heated if we get lost when I am driving but not so sure I would call it a Duel Zone

The plug in hybrid is not released yet

VikingG

goz83 wrote: »

The plug in hybrid is not released yet

I know that, just wondering was there any notice of the pricing.

unkel

BoatMad wrote: »

Given the EPA range is 200km and this is to effectively empty , I find your claim hard to beleive, the nedc range is 250 km and that's impossible to replicate in real life

NEDC is 280km

Why do you find our claims hard to believe? Like why would we be lying?

We too get 11kWh/100km or 12kWh/100km on most days, so a range of 235-255km

But not when we do a lot or motorway driving, particularly not at the speeds I drive at

We have a family 240km trip coming up with the 5 of us and the car will be fully loaded. I'm half thinking of trying it without charging. Will obviously need to stick to a GPS speed of 95km/h or so.

unkel

zilog_jones wrote: »

It's not that small, it's a supermini like the Clio.

It wouldn't fit 5 adults. It would barely fit 4 (with terrible leg room)

And it's more expensive than an Ioniq

At €20k it would be a good proposition for someone only needing a small car, but they got the pricing all wrong. So unless there are massive discounts to be had, it just won't sell. I've only seen a real test in wintertime and the range was terrible (same range as the 28kWh Ioniq in a much smaller car), but apparently the range is much better in summer. We need to see some real tests on that...

woppers

unkel wrote: »

We have a family 240km trip coming up with the 5 of us and the car will be fully loaded. I'm half thinking of trying it without charging. Will obviously need to stick to a GPS speed of 95km/h or so.

Fair play to ya if you try this trip fully loaded without charging I'd be very interested to see if you'll make it. Good luck with it

woppers

rgunning wrote: »

BoatMad wrote: »

I have not installed the home point yet. My fuse box is at the back of my house unfortunately and the Missus will not countenance having surface wiring to the front where it is needed. Does anyone have any experience with this when having the free point installation?

I could be in the same situation as you. I don't want a cable running down the front of my house.

It's a detached house so worst case scenario I could run the cable around the house and dig a trench in the grass outside the path. But I'll have to cut a channel through the concrete driveway which I'm not too keen on doing.

I'm hoping to run the cable up the back of the house through the cavity between the blocks and the same back down on the front of the house.

I'll let you know how it goes. I haven't even got a date for the installation yet.

Fiery mutant

Ok so done a bit of driving longer than I normally would today. Charged last night, so when I got in this morning to go to work there was 235km on the charge.

Drove from Killucan - Naas - Parkwest - Naas - Newbridge - Naas - Killucan. So about 200km overall. Home now and battery is showing 58km left. Photos below.

Got one for the first trip into Naas, then after getting back from new bridge, then one for the trip home. The usage on the first trip in to work is the best I've ever got for that run.

unkel

A lot of that trip is motorway. Did you stick to 100km/h on motorways?

Fiery mutant

The only real motorway run was the run to parkwest and back. Yeah, I generally stick to speed limit on motorway, so that section is 100kph, so yeah would have hover on that limit. When going to work I generally do the back road, kinnegad, Enfield, Kilcock, crane, sallins, Naas.

man_no_plan

Got loan approval today... Now with money in my hand I might be able to get into some serious price negotiations!

woppers

man_no_plan wrote: »

Got loan approval today... Now with money in my hand I might be able to get into some serious price negotiations!

Sounds like man_no_plan is now man_with_plan

Good luck with it. Make sure to ring around a few dealers. The discounts they may be willing to offer can vary dramatically from dealer to dealer.

man_no_plan

woppers wrote: »

Sounds like man_no_plan is now man_with_plan

Good luck with it. Make sure to ring around a few dealers. The discounts they may be willing to offer can vary dramatically from dealer to dealer.

Do you mind if i PM you on it?

woppers

man_no_plan wrote: »

woppers wrote: »

Sounds like man_no_plan is now man_with_plan

Good luck with it. Make sure to ring around a few dealers. The discounts they may be willing to offer can vary dramatically from dealer to dealer.

Do you mind if i PM you on it?

No problem go for it!