Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning link in OP 20/3

astonaidan

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

£48m for a 31 year old? I don't care who they are, that's crazy.

Not really Ronaldo still a player who can sell merchandise and still has a position at the top of football

astonaidan

astonaidan wrote: »

Not really Ronaldo still a player who can sell merchandise and still has a position at the top of football

Same could be said about Rooney

jimmytwotimes 2013

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Surely this an exception? We won't see a Ronaldo or Messi again for one hundred year.

I don't know, the form/fitness of any player that age could go fairly quickly. Ronaldo is an impressive athlete but all the work he's put in to get there is surely going to tell at some point. It's a lot of money considering the risk.

adox

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Surely this an exception? We won't see a Ronaldo or Messi again for one hundred year.

I laughed.
Great players no doubt but sure its only 30 years ago that the greatest of them all was strutting his stuff.

Lord TSC

Think it's crazy Real would consider selling Ronaldo.

42 goals in 40 appearances this season for Real. He has scored or assisted 17 of Real Madrid’s 23 goals in the Champions League this season. The man is a beast, and I'd happily see United drop whatever it took to get him back.

Sadly, I think it's more likely PSG pursue him as a replacement for Ibrahimovic.

Nalz

Lord TSC wrote: »

Sadly, I think it's more likely PSG pursue him as a replacement for Ibrahimovic.

He won't go to PSG surely? Money aside I doubt he would.

bangkok

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

£48m for a 31 year old? I don't care who they are, that's crazy.

its not any 31 year old, its one of the 2 greatest players to ever play the game still at the peak of his powers and will be easily for the next 3-4 years.

Guaranteed goals

Lord TSC

Nalz wrote: »

He won't go to PSG surely? Money aside I doubt he would.

He's already won everything with United and Real. PSG would probably offer him the same/more wages. Wouldn't blame him for wanting to spend a few years living in Paris. And with nothing left to prove, he could go to France, bang in a tonne of goals, guaranteed trophies every year, Quarter Finals of the CL at least each year.

Money is a very hard thing to put aside. I know as United fans we'd like to think his heart would lure him to us, but I could see the appeal of heading off to Paris for 3 or 4 years, being the undisputed star and enjoying life in the process.

astonaidan

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Same could be said about Rooney

No, It definitely cant

astonaidan

Lord TSC wrote: »

He's already won everything with United and Real. PSG would probably offer him the same/more wages. Wouldn't blame him for wanting to spend a few years living in Paris. And with nothing left to prove, he could go to France, bang in a tonne of goals, guaranteed trophies every year, Quarter Finals of the CL at least each year.

Money is a very hard thing to put aside. I know as United fans we'd like to think his heart would lure him to us, but I could see the appeal of heading off to Paris for 3 or 4 years, being the undisputed star and enjoying life in the process.

A better chance at winning the CL again in the foreseeable future aswell

brinty

Could you fathom Zlatan and Ronaldo in the same dressing room
Extra wide doors required for that pair to fit there inflated ego's and heads through...
Still though, worth it....

And that's before Jose strolls out

IamtheWalrus

adox wrote: »

I laughed.
Great players no doubt but sure its only 30 years ago that the greatest of them all was strutting his stuff.

Him?

astonaidan

astonaidan wrote: »

No, It definitely cant

Why not? Sells merchandise by the bucket load? Captain for Man Utd & England?

Vic Vinegar

Shut up Yorke, you're drunk!

Ryan Giggs is the ONLY candidate for Manchester United job - Yorke

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-giggs-only-candidate-manchester-11045659

Lord TSC

brinty wrote: »

Could you fathom Zlatan and Ronaldo in the same dressing room
Extra wide doors required for that pair to fit there inflated ego's and heads through...
Still though, worth it....

And that's before Jose strolls out

Say what you want about age, it would be a dressing room of characters not able to fathom losing....

Cantona's Collars

2 men have been charged over the Murderers banner that was hung from a bridge on the evening of the Liverpool game....Good,2 muppets dragging down the name of the club and its supporters.

Police have also released images of those they want to speak to over crowd disturbances.

astonaidan

brinty wrote: »

Could you fathom Zlatan and Ronaldo in the same dressing room
Extra wide doors required for that pair to fit there inflated ego's and heads through...
Still though, worth it....

And that's before Jose strolls out

As a fan of football, and love these two players and manager, yes please

astonaidan

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Why not? Sells merchandise by the bucket load? Captain for Man Utd & England?

Rooney wouldnt come as close to Ronaldo selling jerseys, Ronaldos appeal is like Beckhams, Rooney isnt even the top seller of jerseys at United thats Bastian.
And thats ignoring their place in world football, Rooney possibly isnt even top 50, Ronaldo is top 5

Trigger

astonaidan wrote: »

Rooney wouldnt come as close to Ronaldo selling jerseys, Ronaldos appeal is like Beckhams, Rooney isnt even the top seller of jerseys at United thats Bastian.
And thats ignoring their place in world football, Rooney possibly isnt even top 50, Ronaldo is top 5

I'd love to see your stats and where you are getting these cause you are spouting out of your hole here's one done by Skysports last October, that was based from July to end Sep that shows Rooney 6th on the list.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10026204/lionel-messi-cristiano-ronaldo-memphis-depay-the-top-selling-player-shirts

Rooney has always been a huge seller of merchandise and shirts with United.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Woody Namechecked Rooney as a huge seller very recently too as it was discussed in the thread

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

I'd love to see your stats and where you are getting these cause you are spouting out of your hole here's one done by Skysports last October, that was based from July to end Sep that shows Rooney 6th on the list.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10026204/lionel-messi-cristiano-ronaldo-memphis-depay-the-top-selling-player-shirts

Rooney has always been a huge seller of merchandise and shirts with United.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Woody Namechecked Rooney as a huge seller very recently too as it was discussed in the thread

Dont you know it's not hip to give rooney credit. Im not into names on shirts but if I was he would be one of the first names id have on one or maybe I could combine rooney and mata?? ROOMATA......... sounds cool i think.

Billy86

Have to say, I'm surprised to see he's only third on our team. Would love to see hard numbers rather than simply places too. Saying he isn't even top 50 is a bit ridiculous alright, but my guess is Ronaldo and Messi would be miles and miles out in front (compared to everyone, not just Rooney). Sure Ronaldo's on numerous street signs etc just outside my office, and I'm in Toronto where not much of a f*** is given about the sport at all.

I also work with a guy who claims to be a big fan of 'Like-ester' since way back. :pac:

Discodog

The thing that puzzled me about the LvG staying stories is the supposed 80m transfer budget. Doesn't seem like much given our needs & the rumoured signings.

Trigger

Billy86 wrote: »

Have to say, I'm surprised to see he's only third on our team. Would love to see hard numbers rather than simply places too. Saying he isn't even top 50 is a bit ridiculous alright, but my guess is Ronaldo and Messi would be miles and miles out in front (compared to everyone, not just Rooney). Sure Ronaldo's on numerous street signs etc just outside my office, and I'm in Toronto where not much of a f*** is given about the sport at all.

I also work with a guy who claims to be a big fan of 'Like-ester' since way back. :pac:

In fairness to that it was based on the period just after Memphis and Schweinsteiger signed so obviously those two figures would be skewed, but to see Rooney up near the top after being with the club for so long can show that he is a big seller the majority of the time.

Kankan14

astonaidan wrote: »

Rooney wouldnt come as close to Ronaldo selling jerseys, Ronaldos appeal is like Beckhams, Rooney isnt even the top seller of jerseys at United thats Bastian.
And thats ignoring their place in world football, Rooney possibly isnt even top 50, Ronaldo is top 5

Rooney is a massive name in the developing markets. (asia, north america etc) so is appeal is still super strong maybe he hasnt got the same level as ronaldo but no-one is as marketable imo.

Also, more importantly far far more importantly is you saying ronaldo is top 5. Top 5? Hes top two since about ten years ago

astonaidan

astradave wrote: »

I'd love to see your stats and where you are getting these cause you are spouting out of your hole here's one done by Skysports last October, that was based from July to end Sep that shows Rooney 6th on the list.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10026204/lionel-messi-cristiano-ronaldo-memphis-depay-the-top-selling-player-shirts

Rooney has always been a huge seller of merchandise and shirts with United.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Woody Namechecked Rooney as a huge seller very recently too as it was discussed in the thread

I was stating he wasnt a top 50 player, not in jersey sales. Thought it was pretty obvious my bad if not. Rooneys shirt sales have dropped, thought everyone knew this, hes becoming less a force in the market

astonaidan

Kankan14 wrote: »

Rooney is a massive name in the developing markets. (asia, north america etc) so is appeal is still super strong maybe he hasnt got the same level as ronaldo but no-one is as marketable imo.

Also, more importantly far far more importantly is you saying ronaldo is top 5. Top 5? Hes top two since about ten years ago

Rooneys shirt sales have dropped, I just posted about the top 5/50 thing I wasnt refering to jerseys.

Hococop

Discodog wrote: »

The thing that puzzled me about the LvG staying stories is the supposed 80m transfer budget. Doesn't seem like much given our needs & the rumoured signings.

Think that's 80 to spend on just a striker, according to media

Liam McPoyle

I was reading earlier on that we allegedly have no hope of Zlatan signing while LVG remains in charge, allegedly he thinks ol Louis is a bit of a dipstick.

He would however like to work with Jose again, allegedly.

On another note, Hummels is some bit of class, Miktaryian (sp) looks daycent too.

jayo26

Hococop wrote: »

Think that's 80 to spend on just a striker, according to media

Probably shane long then

StringerBell

I see Dortmund have done the Man United impression tonight. Lots of slow, laboured possession and passing around the defence creating very little. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery you know

jayo26

StringerBell wrote: »

I see Dortmund have done the Man United impression tonight. Lots of slow, laboured possession and passing around the defence creating very little. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery you know

Looks like the atmosphere from both sets of fans made up for it tho fair play to both of them.

StringerBell

Hummels showed a great range of passing in that game, I had almost forgotten about how good he can be with the ball at his feet, haven't watched any German football this season.

His peach of a ball with the outside of the boot into Reus was beautiful.

I suppose you could say he is a slightly better version of Daley Blind

Martypants1

Following from a previous point I made about LVG being wrong to send Adnan to Dortmund and replies saying LVG said he wanted to go there, how come he won't let our players do what they like in attack? Why didn't he show the same strictness to Adnan as Valdes for example?

20 Times 20 Times

Signing up for my first season ticket this year can someone answer me the following question for 2016/17 season can you opt out of home European matches ?

astonaidan

StringerBell wrote: »

Hummels showed a great range of passing in that game, I had almost forgotten about how good he can be with the ball at his feet, haven't watched any German football this season.

His peach of a ball with the outside of the boot into Reus was beautiful.

I suppose you could say he is a slightly better version of Daley Blind

Plus if United went out and signed him yed finally have a rival for Giroud #Gorgeous

stesaurus

20 Times 20 Times wrote: »

Signing up for my first season ticket this year can someone answer me the following question for 2016/17 season can you opt out of home European matches ?

Nope, not normally anyway. They only allowed it this year when they dropped into the Europa. If we only qualify for Europa this time then I can't see them allowing an op out again.

jayo26

The sun actually don't know what's going on... They were one of the first to say lvg is staying and were adamant of it and now they saying jose is house hunting and only two weeks ago they said lvg was looking for another house in Manchester.

Liam McPoyle

jayo26 wrote: »

The sun actually don't know what's going on... They were one of the first to say lvg is staying and were adamant of it and now they saying jose is house hunting and only two weeks ago they said lvg was looking for another house in Manchester.

Its all guess work, pure and simple.

Peddle one line, people will buy the paper to read about it.

Peddle the exact opposite of it people will buy the paper to read about it.

Repeat ad nauseum.

The fact of the matter is nobody knows what's going to happen with LVG because at the moment we are still in contention for top 4 and for the FA cup.

If we get both the board will have zero reason to sack him.

That's the fact of the matter.

bucketybuck

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

If we get both the board will have zero reason to sack him.

This is factually untrue. Win the FA cup and there will still be 2 years worth of reasons to sack him.

Liam McPoyle

bucketybuck wrote: »

This is factually untrue. Win the FA cup and there will still be 2 years worth of reasons to sack him.

What would those be?

A cup we havnt won in a long time in the bag.

Qualification for the CL in the bag.

Club revenues at an all time high.

Its pretty clear that the quality of football is not a consideration for the powers that be.

bucketybuck

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

What would those be?

You really want reasons why Van Gaal should be sacked? Is this your first time on the forum in two years? Have you seen a game in two years? I'm not going to repeat the obvious to you.

If you think winning the FA cup changes the fact that Van Gaal has done a horrible job then you are probably the type that plays a poker hand with 7,2 then thinks he's great if it happens to win the hand.

Liam McPoyle

bucketybuck wrote: »

You really want reasons why Van Gaal should be sacked? Is this your first time on the forum in two years? Have you seen a game in two years? I'm not going to repeat the obvious to you.

If you think winning the FA cup changes the fact that Van Gaal has done a horrible job then you are probably the type that plays a poker hand with 7,2 then thinks he's great if it happens to win the hand.

Ehhh back up the truck there buddy.

I have been saying for a few months that I want him gone.

If you actually read my post it says, and I quote

"If we get both the board will have zero reason to sack him"

I then qualified that by saying, and I quote

"Its pretty clear the quality of the football is not a consideration for the powers that be"

Do you do think I'm on the board of United?

Or that I'm one of the powers that be?

If so, thanks, that's very flattering.

To put it in the simplest terms possible.

I want him gone and the thought of him being with the club for another 12 months is wholly depressing.

If however we win the fa cup and get champions league football then why would the board sack him, leaving aside the onfield performances, its a results business and grinding out results and getting a trophy and getting CL qualification will probably be viewed as a success, BY THE BOARD, NOT ME, NOT THE MAJORITY OF FANS, THE BOARD, THE ONES THAT MAKE THE DECISIONS.

Is that clear enough for you?

Liam O

Billy86 wrote: »

Have to say, I'm surprised to see he's only third on our team. Would love to see hard numbers rather than simply places too. Saying he isn't even top 50 is a bit ridiculous alright, but my guess is Ronaldo and Messi would be miles and miles out in front (compared to everyone, not just Rooney). Sure Ronaldo's on numerous street signs etc just outside my office, and I'm in Toronto where not much of a f*** is given about the sport at all.

I also work with a guy who claims to be a big fan of 'Like-ester' since way back. :pac:

When I was in Toronto I worked with this old Canadian Liverpool fan and I can still remember him saying "My boys can't even beat Lie Chester man, what the fúck eh?"

Some spot for sports fans

bucketybuck

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

Is that clear enough for you?

The simplest of terms are the words you clearly wrote in your posts.

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

If we get both the board will have zero reason to sack him.

That's the fact of the matter.

bucketybuck wrote: »

This is factually untrue. Win the FA cup and there will still be 2 years worth of reasons to sack him.

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

What would those be?

Very clear and thats what I responded to.

Liam McPoyle

bucketybuck wrote: »

The simplest of terms are the words you clearly wrote in your posts.




Very clear and thats what I responded to.

I'm very sorry, I will try and be clearer in future, consider me told.

Maximus Alexander

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

I'm very sorry, I will try and be clearer in future, consider me told.

I understood what you meant the first time around.

Flint Fredstone

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I understood what you meant the first time around.

Me too.

Trigger

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Me too.

I want a sandwich

0gac3yjefb5sv7

So the match on Sunday...hoping for a win but head says a draw.

Flint Fredstone

astradave wrote: »

I want a sandwich

I'm eating a hot chicken fillet roll with egg mayo, lettuce, onion and cheese. It's delish.