Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning link in OP 20/3

gosplan

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

More of a cripple fight than a dog fight.

Yes and to be honest it's the only thing I have faith in Arsenal to do well.

Wenger in a battle for fourth is like Fergie fighting for the title.

Nobody does OK better

how.gareth

Lads I don't know if it has been discussed but if city win the cl and finish 4th do we qualify if we finish 5th?

StringerBell

gosplan wrote: »

Yes and to be honest it's the only thing I have faith in Arsenal to do well.

Wenger in a battle for fourth is like Fergie fighting for the title.

Nobody does OK better

Where does it end for Wenger?

Season after season of this, surely the level of underachievement must be forcing him to consider his position as it seems certain he will never be fired.

jayo26

how.gareth wrote: »

Lads I don't know if it has been discussed but if city win the cl and finish 4th do we qualify if we finish 5th?

Nope we sure dont.

Speak Now

how.gareth wrote: »

Lads I don't know if it has been discussed but if city win the cl and finish 4th do we qualify if we finish 5th?

No

gosplan

StringerBell wrote: »

Where does it end for Wenger?

Season after season of this, surely the level of underachievement must be forcing him to consider his position as it seems certain he will never be fired.

For me...and I'm as pro Wenger as it gets(well almost, maybe apart from a Wenger himself), he's got a year left on his contract.

He'll stay for it but I think anything other than a serious attempt to plough money into the team in summer and he should just go now instead.

Manutd_4life

If we end up in 4th with City in 5th but City win the CL and Liverpool win the Europa do we still get in the CL?

gosplan

how.gareth wrote: »

Lads I don't know if it has been discussed but if city win the cl and finish 4th do we qualify if we finish 5th?

No.

But if City finish 5th and win the CL AND Liverpool win the Europa league, they both get CL at the expense of fourth place.

If Arsenal beat City it's so on!!!!

It would be hilariously weird.

gosplan

Manutd_4life wrote: »

If we end up in 4th with City in 5th but City win the CL and Liverpool win the Europa do we still get in the CL?

Yeah this!!

No you'd be out.

IncognitoMan

Manutd_4life wrote: »

If we end up in 4th with City in 5th but City win the CL and Liverpool win the Europa do we still get in the CL?

No, City and Liverpool would qualify in that situation. Max of 5 teams from any country for champions league. We'd get Europa

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/samuelluckhurst/status/721754786148851713

Mitch Connor

Will be delighted if Mourinho does eventually come in. 3 years later than I would like. It might not go right, but I've more confidence in him than I ever would have in Moyes or LVG - and at least I'll know either way. Will also ensure an interseting summer and a reason to be optimistic again. I also hold out hope for Herrera to both stay, and become an important player - I can see him taking a Lampard-esque role and doing well with it.

Antibac

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/samuelluckhurst/status/721754786148851713

Is Luckhurst reliable? I love and hate these next few months each year in equal measure

Antibac

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Will be delighted if Mourinho does eventually come in. 3 years later than I would like. It might not go right, but I've more confidence in him than I ever would have in Moyes or LVG - and at least I'll know either way. Will also ensure an interseting summer and a reason to be optimistic again. I also hold out hope for Herrera to both stay, and become an important player - I can see him taking a Lampard-esque role and doing well with it.

I would thank this post a million times if I could. I've said this to people repeatedly that I think Mourhino would give Herrera this role. At least I'm not mad!

Lord TSC

Antibac wrote: »

Is Luckhurst reliable? I love and hate these next few months each year in equal measure

Would have him on Tier 2 myself. Not perfect but better than a lot of them.

Edit. That said, looks like a reprint of the stories from the Mirror and Red Issue yesterday.

jayo26

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/samuelluckhurst/status/721754786148851713

That gif tho.........

Trigger

https://twitter.com/JackWilshere/status/721758200626880512

notice the image down the bottom of the picture? :pac::pac:

Flint Fredstone

astradave wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JackWilshere/status/721758200626880512

notice the image down the bottom of the picture? :pac::pac:

Ha, that's not his actual account is it?

Lord TSC

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Ha, that's not his actual account is it?

Yeap, verified and all. lol

Headshot

astradave wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JackWilshere/status/721758200626880512

notice the image down the bottom of the picture? :pac::pac:

**** its removed.

what was it

Flint Fredstone

Headshot wrote: »

**** its removed.

what was it

This.

Trigger

Headshot wrote: »

**** its removed.

what was it

don't worry i have it saved :pac:

Toobz

I see the our year posts popping up in the Liverpool thread nice and early

Headshot

good auld Jack

Not the smartest lad around

StringerBell

I might be dumb, but what's the big deal with Jack's picture?

Did he only put it up after the game or something?

Trigger

StringerBell wrote: »

I might be dumb, but what's the big deal with Jack's picture?

Did he only put it up after the game or something?

This

Mitch Connor

Antibac wrote: »

Is Luckhurst reliable? I love and hate these next few months each year in equal measure

i don't think he has good contacts himself, or is particularly tight with anyone in the know - but he has got himself a gig and the MEN and subscriptions to Red Issue and UWS. I've never seen him say anything that I haven't seen on Red Issue or UWS the day before.

Korat

Good spot Astradave

bucketybuck

Liam O wrote: »

This is a ridiculous statement. Ranieiri is barely above average in terms of managers.

I think that most of your average professional managers would have had United comfortably top four the past 3 seasons, it really is hard to understate just how badly Moyes and especially Van Gaal have ****ed up their jobs.

There is a reason top four should be a minimum requirement at a club like ours, all things considered any competent manager should be able to achieve it.

Jose doing his rounds on Twitter today...what's the source of all the commotion??

Lord TSC

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Jose doing his rounds on Twitter today...what's the source of all the commotion??

Think The Mirror started it yesterday by saying Jose had won the war over Fergie. Red Issue reiterated it. Bild in Germany said the deal is done and contract signed. And Luckhurst in the MEN reiterated all that in an article himself.

Mitch Connor

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Jose doing his rounds on Twitter today...what's the source of all the commotion??

there have been a few general reports over the last few days that it is getting closer. Bild, seemingly, saying it is a done deal - contract signed through to 2019.

Red Issue (whether you rate them at all is your own thing) are saying there are strong signs that the anti-mourinho camp at United have given up, with more signs expected in the papers on Tuesday.

There is, as far as I am aware, no specific story - just a collection, and a poor performance vs Villa yesterday.

bucketybuck

Mitch Connor wrote: »

there have been a few general reports over the last few days that it is getting closer. Bild, seemingly, saying it is a done deal - contract signed through to 2019.

Red Issue (whether you rate them at all is your own thing) are saying there are strong signs that the anti-mourinho camp at United have given up, with more signs expected in the papers on Tuesday.

There is, as far as I am aware, no specific story - just a collection, and a poor performance vs Villa yesterday.

When I hear all these stories there is a part of me that wonders why on earth one of the worlds most accomplished managers would let himself be led along in this manner? If I was Jose with his record I would perhaps feel that I shouldn't have to wait around like this, United in their current mess should have been down on their knees months ago begging him to take the job.

Obviously the club is bigger than any manager but the point remains, Jose might well feel that if United didn't want him when he was available then they can go take a jump should they finally get round to asking him in the summer.

Can you imagine any club doing the same to Guardiola?

Korat

If/when Jose gets the job it won't end the speculation about WTF went on behind the scenes at Utd this season.

J. Marston

Toobz wrote: »

I see the our year posts popping up in the Liverpool thread nice and early

After the other night and people prematurely shooting their loads in here, I'd wait a while before laughing at them.

TonyD79

bucketybuck wrote: »

When I hear all these stories there is a part of me that wonders why on earth one of the worlds most accomplished managers would let himself be led along in this manner? If I was Jose with his record I would perhaps feel that I shouldn't have to wait around like this, United in their current mess should have been down on their knees months ago begging him to take the job.

Obviously the club is bigger than any manager but the point remains, Jose might well feel that if United didn't want him when he was available then they can go take a jump should they finally get round to asking him in the summer.

Can you imagine any club doing the same to Guardiola?

Guardiola was out of contract so very simple appointment.

bucketybuck

TonyD79 wrote: »

Guardiola was out of contract so very simple appointment.

What?

PhlegmyMoses

Mourinho is not in the greatest of positions himself, hence why he's waiting around. There are very few truly top level jobs going to be available this summer. Unless PSG decided to dump Blanc, where else could he conceivably take a job?

0gac3yjefb5sv7

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Mourinho is not in the greatest of positions himself, hence why he's waiting around. There are very few truly top level jobs going to be available this summer. Unless PSG decided to dump Blanc, where else could he conceivably take a job?

Fairly sure Madrid would take him and even a tiny chance of Barca.

Cantona's Collars

More bold claims from Red Issue.

https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/721760519682523136
https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/721761009019412481

Don't like the language used....Van Loony and The Snake (Giggs).

mewe

Just watching MOTD. Jonathan Moss is an absolute disgrace.

Korat

zerks wrote: »

More bold claims from Red Issue.


Don't like the language used....Van Loony and The Snake (Giggs).

FFS this is the kind of crap that comes from letting this mess go on for so long. It's just tattle but there should be no opportunity for it.

KH25

mewe wrote: »

Just watching MOTD. Jonathan Moss is an absolute disgrace.

Definitely one of the worst going. Shocking performance today.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

KH25 wrote: »

Definitely one of the worst going. Shocking performance today.

What happened?

Headshot

zerks wrote: »

More bold claims from Red Issue.

https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/721760519682523136
https://twitter.com/RedIssue/status/721761009019412481

Don't like the language used....Van Loony and The Snake (Giggs).

Pity about the childish names. I dont think alot of Giggs in the backroom staff and as a person but he deserves better than the "The Snake" crap. He was a very good player for us, he deserves more respect

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Headshot wrote: »

Pity about the childish names. I dont think alot of Giggs in the backroom staff and as a person but he deserves better than the "The Snake" crap. He was a very good player for us, he deserves more respect

Exactly and how does anyone know Giggs is trying to get the main job. There has been no credible sources on this just loads of rag nonsense.

mewe

Pheonix10 wrote: »

What happened?

He gave Vardy a second yellow for a dive inside the box and sent him off and then gave West Ham a peno for more or less the same thing.

Cantona's Collars

mewe wrote: »

He gave Vardy a second yellow for a dive inside the box and sent him off and then gave West Ham a peno for more or less the same thing.

He also was looking directly at Huth being held around the neck at a corner and waved penalty claims away.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/TelegraphDucker/status/721815272999489537

More of the same from Ducker.

StringerBell

Headshot wrote: »

Pity about the childish names. I dont think alot of Giggs in the backroom staff and as a person but he deserves better than the "The Snake" crap. He was a very good player for us, he deserves more respect

Well, if they are referring to Giggs as the The Snake (which is obviously the simple pleasing the masses candidate) then surely Giggs the person is very deserving of the title Snake given his actions in his personal life.

On the pitch as a player I can't fault him for what he did for the club, seems like he leaves a lot to be desired away from playing football though.

Yeah, the more you think about it, the more perfect the moniker snake becomes for a man who shagged his brothers wife......a lot.