Laws on no backbox?

goz83

selectamatic wrote: »

I would say the op has a potentially appreciating asset however you or I do not know the financial specifics regarding the car in question so it is quite difficult to make assumptions on whether or not this potential asset will or will not remain as such or as you say become a liability. Fact of the matter is though the current market value of clean e36 coupe's will continue to rise especially models from the 318is up so the potential for a return is always there.
Quoting businessmen turned motivational speakers won't change this fact unless of course Robert kiyosaki has some insider info relating to Ireland's used car market.

Neither will listing guesstimates for how much the repairs will cost (Stheno).
Coming from a background deeply routed in cars I would say the OP could right the car for substantially less of an outlay if he carries out most of the repairs himself as he has alluded to. If he corrects the suspension (which is potentially only a matter of winding out coilovers) then no tyres are needed so that's 600 off your well laid out but wildly speculative list I could carry on nit picking but I won't bother.

The only potential appreciation on that heap, is if it is crushed and there is a massive increase on scrap metal. Remember how sure you were that it would pass the psv? Well, lets call it common sense rather than insider knowledge. Tarted cars don't appreciate, they depreciate.

The OPs history is a bit concerning too. He has been pulled in quite a few times and has had at least one other car seized. As I said in an earlier post, I had some modifications done to a car I have (currently declared off the road) and the onlh attention I got from the garda was one of them having a quick chat at the petrol station to tell me that "she looks lovely". An old jdm fan.

IMO, modifications should never stand out from the car. IOW, the average person shoukd not be able to tell if the car is factory, or modified. Stapling a crappy bodykit onto any old yoke is disrespectful to what might have been an asset.

st1979

Falcon L wrote:

Yeah but seriously, what are the chances that, having passed inspection, the car will be made illegal again immediately? It only takes minutes to make the headlights illegal.

If he fixes the problems he will need to keep it legal. Then he might slowly start to come off the Garda radar.
He will still have a highly modified car but a legal and safe one.
The op asked for advice and I have given it.

Cessna_Pilot

goz83 wrote: »

The only potential appreciation on that heap, is if it is crushed and there is a massive increase on scrap metal. Remember how sure you were that it would pass the psv? Well, lets call it common sense rather than insider knowledge. Tarted cars don't appreciate, they depreciate.

The OPs history is a bit concerning too. He has been pulled in quite a few times and has had at least one other car seized. As I said in an earlier post, I had some modifications done to a car I have (currently declared off the road) and the onlh attention I got from the garda was one of them having a quick chat at the petrol station to tell me that "she looks lovely". An old jdm fan.

IMO, modifications should never stand out from the car. IOW, the average person shoukd not be able to tell if the car is factory, or modified. Stapling a crappy bodykit onto any old yoke is disrespectful to what might have been an asset.

I remember the OP posting on another car owners forum a few years back. Exactly the same stuff, and he had cars seized then. Some people never learn.
I drove modified Hondas for years, was never stopped once by the Gardaí.

foggy_lad

Daaryl wrote: »

That's what i want to do is get it fixed anyway, Like it's all stupid small jobs that would take a hour to fix it all, But they're just being awkward about the whole thing

It is becoming apparrent that the Gardai feel you are a menace on the roads in your ****box cars. Maybe if you sell that box of bits you might make enough for a small decent 1litre car like a polo or micra and then you can start over with the Gardai but forget about modifications because you obviously don't have the funds to do it legally!

Daaryl wrote: »

I know but the problem is they're being ****ers about getting it towed out!

When i get it back, It's going into a shed for a few months and i'll get a loan of a car for a while




No completely different car! Considering i only have this car a month

THey are being ****ers because they want to keep you off the roads. They will keep stopping you when they see you in ****boxes until they have you behind bars or in a decent safe and legal car.
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Stheno wrote: »

I wonder what happened to the other seized car?

Hopefully This

selectamatic wrote: »

friends with trailers can come in handy

I do hope they have their car in order as that Sergeant seems the sort to check their vehicle for defects and also check the trailer for road-worthiness and safety chains etc

bear1

For the craic I decided to see other threads by Daaryl.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94231828

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057352378

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057315839

These show why the Guards are hounding you specifically.

And this is my absolute favourite:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057337363&page=2

Page 2, post 18, 25, 32 and 38.
And this from someone who has illegal HIDs and a constantly on brake light.

selectamatic

Few points to clear up regarding my post which were based on the op's telling of events. The part of my first post relating to the cars potential condition on inspection was as follows: Chances are it may pass the db test since it has the cat and first silencer still fitted, if lowered correctly you should be sound aswell as long as it can get over the ramp onto the lift you're ok it may be an issue if the rear tyres are rubbing however if as you say it only happens with weight in the back you should be alright. They may warn you over the number plate. Since the diff isn't welded you should be fine as I'd say the primary reason the car was lifted was to try and catch you with an arc spec diff.

Since the psv test was carried out we have learned car was rubbing badly, tracking off, hids, airbag light, break light on constant and poorly routed and secured exhaust. None of these points were alluded to befor the psv test results were posted so again my views weren't in "fairyland" as they were based on what we were told prior to the psv results. Had the car been as described it could very well have passed a psv however it wasn't as there was a list of previously unheard problems included in the results post had they been posted before the result then my view point would have been very different however fact is they weren't.

The term "clean" refers to interior and exterior of a car only and going by the pictures the car is indeed clean. I've never heard anyone say that car had clean mechanicals so I do not see why the mechanical condition is being used to counter my point of the car being clean. There is no law requiring a backbox as long as the tips or axle back pipe is routed and exits in a suitable place and is properly secured. Some cars pass db tests with axle back pipes when the rest of the exhaust system is left intact some don't a lot depends on engine size and how good the first silencer is. OP did it pass or fail db test?
Also I really can't see anyone going to tow a car from the impound with a dodgy car or trailer that'd take a special breed of stupid so I doubt that will be an issue if the smallest bit of common sense is used.
I defended the op as many modified cars are needlessly persecuted by the general public (not in fact the guards), people see a lowered car and instsantly think death trap but if unlike on this occasion the mods are done to a proper road legal standard then the car it just as safe and road legal as any other car on the road and should thus be treated as such.

Supergurrier

You are doing something wrong to keep getting pulled.

I've had some obviously modified cars and some quite loud and never gotten hassle once.

Show respect and take it handy instead of making a thread about how to wriggle out of the consequences of not doing so.

Kat1170

This thread is running longer and further than the OP's car :D:D

stefan.kuntz

Great thread, OP. Keep her betwixt the ditches. If you ever get back on the road, that is.

goz83

@selectamatic

You defended the op blindly when it had already been established that he was not being honest about...well.....anything really. For most everyone else, it was quite clear that the car was a death trap. Even when the op knew he was doing the wrong thing, he tried wriggle his way out of it. Look at his previous threads and you'll see a level of immaturity, which is dangerous for anyone else on the road near him. Someone with an attitude to safety nowhere near as flippant as the OP rammed into the back of me causing me serious injuries i'm still recovering from nearly 2 year later. IMO, he should not be allowed on a bicycle, let alone a modified car.

selectamatic

True I was unaware of his previous threads or previous issues therefore you could argue I defended him blindly. But people also persecuted him blindly as at the time of my first post the revelations about the brake light and constant rubbing were unknown (slight rubbing with weight in the back was said), also the routing/securing issues of the exhaust system were unknown so it wasn't clear the car was defective.
The car can be righted fairly easily and i hope it will be. It is indeed worth decent money to some as if those wheels are genuine split rims in unblemished condition they could be worth alone close to a figure others have alluded to regarding the car as a whole.
But true the thread has run it's course. No back box is legal if db limit isn't exceeded and if exhaust is routed and secured properly.

clodola

Dial Hard

selectamatic wrote:

True I was unaware of his previous threads or previous issues therefore you could argue I defended him blindly. But people also persecuted him blindly/quote]

No they didn't. They checked his previous posting history and knew he was being extremely selective about what he was saying.

dr.fuzzenstein

Yeah, if people could write their replies outside the

quote box

that would be great. Why is this thread so bad for it?

Dial Hard

dr.fuzzenstein wrote:

Yeah, if people could write their replies outside the quote box that would be great. Why is this thread so bad for it?

Seems to be a bug.

Little CuChulainn

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Yeah, if people could write their replies outside the that would be great. Why is this thread so bad for it?

It's a chain reaction when one person gets it wrong and everyone else just quotes without fixing.

Dial Hard

Little CuChulainn wrote:

It's a chain reaction when one person gets it wrong and everyone else just quotes without fixing.

Nope. I only quoted one post and my reply was outside the tags and it still happened. Mobile app is still buggy as hell since the attack.

TherapyBoy

Dial Hard wrote: »

Nope. I only quoted one post and my reply was outside the tags and it still happened. Mobile app is still buggy as hell since the attack.

It's just missing the [ before the / in your quote tags. You might still be able to edit it in.

Dial Hard

TherapyBoy wrote:

It's just missing the [ before the / in your quote tags. You might still be able to edit it in.

Not on the app. Quoted text doesn't appear in edit mode.

bear1

So this thread has turned into people talking about quoting quotes
Disappointed.
Daaryl any news?

hullaballoo

Normally I'd edit broken quote tags because they annoy me so much but tbh, I'm just hoping this thread dies and goes away. (I'm fully aware of the irony of posting in it.)

9935452

Senna wrote: »

Someone above said to remove the airbag light bulb, don't listen to rubbish like this, if someone said that on the motor forum they'd be banned for life
Airbag light comes on when ignition starts and goes off after 5 seconds, inspector knows this and knows there is no airbag when one was fitted as standard.

Lads are fitting delay relays to the airbag light. When the ignition is switched on the relay switches on the light and switches off the light a few seconds later.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOXED-MINI-CAR-TIMER-SWITCH-AIRBAG-LIGHT-RELAY-1-TO-10-SEC-KIT-DELAY-OFF-12V-1A-/271143841802?hash=item3f216eb00a:g:OPwAAOSwoydWoJx~

I dont condone the practice myself .

Senna

9935452 wrote: »

Lads are fitting delay relays to the airbag light. When the ignition is switched on the relay switches on the light and switches off the light a few seconds later.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOXED-MINI-CAR-TIMER-SWITCH-AIRBAG-LIGHT-RELAY-1-TO-10-SEC-KIT-DELAY-OFF-12V-1A-/271143841802?hash=item3f216eb00a:g:OPwAAOSwoydWoJx~

I dont condone the practice myself .

I didn't realise when I wrote that but there's no actual airbag, it's an aftermarket steering wheel. So bypassing it would be pointless.

red sean

I somehow don't think the op is going to give us an update!

Senna

red sean wrote: »

I somehow don't think the op is going to give us an update!

Well in fairness he's got some abuse, his car has been called a sh1tbox by nearly everyone.
Don't think he cares what anyone on here says and when I was his age, in guessing 19-21, I wouldn't have listened to people who frequented the legal discussion forum either:)

Stheno

red sean wrote: »

I somehow don't think the op is going to give us an update!

Ah I reckon he's been spending the past few days fixing up his car, and will be back to tell us that it's passed the psv inspection, and the nct, and all is good with the world.

gctest50

Senna wrote: »

Well in fairness he's got some abuse, his car has been called a sh1tbox by nearly everyone.
.......

it's grand, just needs finishing touches

this though :

http://captiongenerator.com/79857/bmw-test1

napsack

Honestly i hope this car gets crushed and owner has to do a course in car safety and not being a twat,

as a proper car enthusiast to see such a monstrosity and complete disregard for safety of himself and others is saddening,

people like this is the reason car insurance for any reasonably fast cars is insane, my car is my pride and joy, looks completely standard from the outside and i would never throw it around roundabouts or do do burnouts,

and as for his shopping list of parts covering the rear window... i think that was cool 10 years ago.. laughable now,

hopefully you'll see sense and look back and think WTF was i doing??

Straight Edge Punk

I hate that people like this have ruined the 318 for regular drivers. Insurance quotes are astronomical because of idiots who want to destroy them instead of just appreciating what they have.

This guy reminds me of a lad I used to work with, destroyed 2 318s with all this welded diff rubbish and was constantly at me to to modify my factory standard Civic. Always on snapchat now sending videos of him and his idiot friends drifting around roundabouts in the middle of the night. I pray for the day he is put off the road once and for all.

Dial Hard

napsack wrote:

and as for his shopping list of parts covering the rear window... i think that was cool 10 years ago.. laughable now,

It was never cool.

Senna

Dial Hard wrote: »

It was never cool.

It was always tacky as feck, but napsack must have had it on his car 10 years ago

My brother had a dc2 and put a carbon bonnet on it, but the bonnet got damaged in shipping, the front left had a crack near the front. So he put a spoon sticker over the crack. A week later a fella with a crappy dc1 put a sticker on his bonnet in the exact same spot!! So the brother took it off straight away, goes to show how one person does something to a modded car and every other sheep thinks this is great and has to do the exact same.

bear1

Daaryl did you get it sorted?

goz83

bear1 wrote: »

Daaryl did you get it sorted?

Must be crying into his cornflakes

DakarVert

I noticed this up for sale at €3,300.

TBH it's a decent looking car, I'd rather have a lowered E36 than a ****heap bought for a few hundred with a welded diff.

Stheno

DakarVert wrote: »

I noticed this up for sale at €3,300.

TBH it's a decent looking car, I'd rather have a lowered E36 than a ****heap bought for a few hundred with a welded diff.

What's up for sale?

DakarVert

Stheno wrote: »

What's up for sale?

The car this thread is about.

ohnonotgmail

DakarVert wrote: »

The car this thread is about.

link?

bear1

I can't find anything on DD or Adverts with that car.
Are you sure you are seeing the right one?

Pat Mustard

Mod:

Can we move back on topic please or this thread will be closed.

Legal discussion only, please.