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I'm still playing the original doom
For those that don't have it (you're crazy), it was originally shareware and its engine is open source. You can download and use mods like GZDoom, Brutality, Brutal Doom etc, with free versions of doom like https://freedoom.github.io/about.html.0 -
Robert ninja wrote: »I'm still playing the original doom
For those that don't have it (you're crazy), it was originally shareware and its engine is open source. You can download and use mods like GZDoom, Brutality, Brutal Doom etc, with free versions of doom like https://freedoom.github.io/about.html.
[Pedant]Like Wolfenstein 3D, the first episode was shareware, the rest you paid for.[/Pedant]
It's the main reason that "demo" gave me that illness. It wasn't the usual 30 minute/one level nonsense.0 -
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I like gzdoom doom as a source port however don't like brutal doom due to fact that it's too far from canonRobert ninja wrote: »I'm still playing the original doom
For those that don't have it (you're crazy), it was originally shareware and its engine is open source. You can download and use mods like GZDoom, Brutality, Brutal Doom etc, with free versions of doom like https://freedoom.github.io/about.html.
If you want an improved experience closer to the original use gzdoom with the smooth doom wad.
Oh and two mega wads called "Doom the way iD did" and it's sequel "Doom 2 the way iD did"
A fantastic re-imagining of the two original games0 -
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I remember how amazing doom was on release. PC gaming was a bit of a joke compared to the likes of the Amiga. It had a few good games like
Wolf 3D that showed off the hardware but nothing essential. The PC before doom did have earth shatteringly good 3D games like ultima underworld before doom but that requires a monster rig to run. Doom ran like a dream on a standard 486 and was the first game to make me take PC gaming seriously.
Also I feel doom hasn't been copied or equaled. Every game since has tried to introduce more complexity diluting the amount of enemies and emergent gameplay. It's left doom as a totally different experience from any shooter since which means it's never been copied or bettered. It's such a pure gameplay experience, Romero described it as a first person gauntlet.
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Oafley Jones wrote: »I've been gaming on DOS/windows machines since the good old days of the 8086. I never felt envious of my friends that had amigas. They were still broadly productivity machines back then and that was the marketing focus, but there was still an excellent selection of games. Sure the sole bit of gaming news would be a few tiny boxes at the back of PcPlus, but the PC suited me as it was more RPGs and Sims and adventure games. Things like Zool would be better of Amiga, but Sims were a much better experience on PC. You mention the 486: You're fairly late in the game now and PC gaming was extremely established at this stage with the Amiga firmly on the path to bankruptcy. Did you play Doom before you tried it on the 486... because that's probably 1995! The 486 (had a 486DX33 myself) would have been overkill for Doom's faux 3D.
There are plenty of decent shooters that tried to copy Doom. Some better than others. None have the same level of nostalgia for me. You'd everything on the quality scale from Hexen to Rise of the triads. I was never a fan but people forget Duke nukem 3d proceeded Doom. I wonder how the people behind Serious Sam are viewing the new Doom. Are they feeling forgotten. Their series was basically lauded as the return to basics Old School Doom as well.
Aye I used to play Doom on my 386DX 33mhz... postage stamp sized screen and in low res mode. Still ran terribly but I didn't care
FPS and point-and-clicks were my bread and butter on the PC back then and certainly the latter was always a better experience on the PC.0 -
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Oafley Jones wrote: »There are plenty of decent shooters that tried to copy Doom. Some better than others. None have the same level of nostalgia for me. You'd everything on the quality scale from Hexen to Rise of the triads. I was never a fan but people forget Duke nukem 3d proceeded Doom. I wonder how the people behind Serious Sam are viewing the new Doom. Are they feeling forgotten. Their series was basically lauded as the return to basics Old School Doom as well.
Not saying PC games were bad back then. I would not have had any experience of RPGs from then like ultima, it's my own experience really and doom made me want a PC and I eventually got a P100 machine a few years later. I used to play doom on my mates 486 with a turbo button, so that's how I experienced it but I remember it running incredibly well compared to other faux 3D games like ultima underworld which was incredibly demanding.
As for duke, I wouldn't call it a contender to doom, it felt very different. Same with serious Sam. There's no actual level design and it just locks you in arenas and floods them with enemies. It's the fiendish enemy placement and design that makes doom a far better experience than serious Sam.
Heretic was probably the closest since it runs on the doom engine. Rise of the triad is more wolf 3D on an illegal drug bender. Hexen despite using the doom engine felt more like a proto metroid prime than anything when I revisited it.
There's nothing that really felt like the original doom since.
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