Doom

SirLemonhead

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I started on normal and started again in ultra violence. It's a much better game on ultra violence.

Yup. It actually gets too easy just before the halfway point on ultra violence I had more BFG shots than I knew what to do with.

I'm not sure how I feel about glory kills dropping health and ammo. You absolutely have to do them on ultra violence which leads to frantic and fun game play but it's like a crutch in terms of game design. It's a simple replacement for regenerating health that we're so used to from CoD et al. There's too health about even on ultra violence. I suppose there's two more difficultly levels above it.

I didn't like the design of the imps at first but I've completely changed my mind. Dodging fireballs is so much fun.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not sure how I feel about glory kills dropping health and ammo. You absolutely have to do them on ultra violence which leads to frantic and fun game play but it's like a crutch in terms of game design. It's a simple replacement for regenerating health that we're so used to from CoD et al. There's too health about even on ultra violence. I suppose there's two more difficultly levels above it.

I didn't like the design of the imps at first but I've completely changed my mind. Dodging fireballs is so much fun.

What level are you on? Trust me you won't be saying that when the challenge ramps up.

Had another binge session yesterday evening. I think I'm on the last level now. Just don't want it to end

Hopefully will have an updated post with spoilers tags of course when I'm done but I can safely say it's the shooter this current gen. Haven't gotten back to Uncharted yet because of it...

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What level are you on? Trust me you won't be saying that when the challenge ramps up.

Had another binge session yesterday evening. I think I'm on the last level now. Just don't want it to end

Hopefully will have an updated post with spoilers tags of course when I'm done but I can safely say it's the shooter this current gen. Haven't gotten back to Uncharted yet because of it...

I've only finished the second level.

It feels like a game adaptation of Event Horizon so far

CS Hasuki

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Never heard of anyone having issues with CDKEYS, for me it's the best site to buy games on.

Kinguin is another good one, or gamingdragons

CS Hasuki

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What level are you on? Trust me you won't be saying that when the challenge ramps up.

Had another binge session yesterday evening. I think I'm on the last level now. Just don't want it to end

Hopefully will have an updated post with spoilers tags of course when I'm done but I can safely say it's the shooter this current gen. Haven't gotten back to Uncharted yet because of it...

Are you guys playing on pc or console?

Mr E

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Never heard of anyone having issues with CDKEYS, for me it's the best site to buy games on.

I bought it on CD Keys last night, no problems.
If you haven't used them before, like them on Facebook to get an extra 5% discount code to use on your first order (I got the game for €31.34)

CS Hasuki

CS Hasuki wrote: »

Are you guys playing on pc or console?

PS4

bugs

M!Ck^ wrote: »

This alone is worth the price of entry, the game is fantastic.

bugs

bugs wrote: »

This alone is worth the price of entry, the game is fantastic.

An 8-bit version of the doom theme plays at the same time

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

An 8-bit version of the doom theme plays at the same time

Not to mention the classic doom maps
When you complete the game there are full versions of classic doom maps (I think 13 in total) that can be played in full using new Dooms weapons / enemies.

What setting did you go for? I didn't look to hard but I removed motion blur and put the fov up to 110. I would usually put FOV as high as possible but 130 looks a bit odd for a single player game.

BMMachine

im going to get this but not for 60eu. id fanboy and I kind of have to see it for myself. the QTE's will annoy the piss out of me though so can you play the game properly without using them?

BMMachine

BMMachine wrote: »

im going to get this but not for 60eu. id fanboy and I kind of have to see it for myself. the QTE's will annoy the piss out of me though so can you play the game properly without using them?

They're not quite QTE's, they are elective melee finishers called "glory kills" which dispense health and ammo. You can only do them on staggered or damaged enemies. They add the frantic mayhem of the game yet are entirely optional.

Retr0gamer

I was worried about the QTE's but they work brilliantly in the context of the game. You still need to get in close to execute one which adds some risk and reward and they are the main way you will be gaining health back in the game.

In a way it's very close to how you gain health back in Metal Gear revengenance where the only way to do so in combat is to stagger an enemy then split them in half in the correct way to gain back health.

bugs

Despite the bonus health, I find myself almost always executing the glory kill, it's so brief and viceral. Let's not forget berserk, which is sorely missing some kind of Benny hill music as you chase from enemy to enemy tearing them apart.

bugs

bugs wrote: »

Despite the bonus health, I find myself almost always executing the glory kill, it's so brief and viceral. Let's not forget berserk, which is sorely missing some kind of Benny hill music as you chase from enemy to enemy tearing them apart.

Wait till you fully upgrade the Super Shotgun

Quick reload / 4 shells fired before reload!!

bugs

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Wait till you fully upgrade the Super Shotgun

Quick reload / 4 shells fired before reload!!

I look forward to it

bugs

bugs wrote: »

I look forward to it

Whats the most effective way to take on those shielded guys? They seem to be causing me the most hassle

Spear

Deleted User wrote: »

Whats the most effective way to take on those shielded guys? They seem to be causing me the most hassle

Chainsaw negates the shield entirely.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Whats the most effective way to take on those shielded guys? They seem to be causing me the most hassle

Depends on what weapons you have at what particular stage of the campaign.

If it's early on then:
Circle strafing quickly the unload with the shotty
Sticky Rockets from the Assault Rifle work well too
Oh and what Spear said :P

A nice article about the level design in Doom.

http://pixelgate.co.uk/dooms-level-design-is-a-marvel-among-mediocrity/

Oafley Jones

M!Ck^ wrote: »

A nice article about the level design in Doom.

http://pixelgate.co.uk/dooms-level-design-is-a-marvel-among-mediocrity/

I was looking for the rest of the piece. If he's going to proclaim its design a "Marvel", then he might want to go into why. Instead we get a few lines on the corridor approach that been in been in vogue for the past few years and nothing of substance on Doom. Anyone could have trotted that out in a minute or two; you wouldn't even have had to played the game.

As an example; here's a nice article on level design.

bugs

Question on performance. I'm running doom on a stock clocked i5 4690k and a high factory overclocked zotac 970. On ultra settings at 1080p on a 144hz monitor (set to 100hz) with vsync on, com_fps counter sits at 99-100 constantly. Game is buttery smooth, no question the fps is high but I wasn't expecting it to run this well. Anyone getting similar performance or is the internal clock a little buggy?

First encounter with a Hell Knight. Class.

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Where is the cheapest place to get this for PS4 ? Looks like simplygames.com and amazon.co.uk are hovering around the €50 mark considering £/€ conversion and postage.

Argos had it for €63 a few days ago, back up to €65 now.

CiDeRmAn

How much content in this game?
I'm thinking of picking it up but if it's short and slight then I'll wait a month or two for a discount.

Retr0gamer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

How much content in this game?
I'm thinking of picking it up but if it's short and slight then I'll wait a month or two for a discount.

It's a pretty generous single player campaign. Also I can see myself coming back to playing it on higher difficulties which only ever happens with Paltinum games for me.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=2708

About 11 hours it says there.

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's a pretty generous single player campaign. Also I can see myself coming back to playing it on higher difficulties which only ever happens with Paltinum games for me.

https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=2708

About 11 hours it says there.

I'm at a loss with DS3 being over for me, so I need a distraction, perhaps Doom is the thing!

Icyseanfitz

never really buy new games but screw it just bought this is the mp any good?

CiDeRmAn

I think I'll order from Base.com cheapest out there, and happy to pay the Parcel Motel tax!

CiDeRmAn

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

How much content in this game?
I'm thinking of picking it up but if it's short and slight then I'll wait a month or two for a discount.

This game deserves the support IMO

Icyseanfitz

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

never really buy new games but screw it just bought this is the mp any good?

I haven't touched it since the beta but it was absolutely terrible at the time

biggebruv

fully upgraded double barrel shotgun is heaven in this game lol

Retr0gamer

I think there's not enough said about the writing in this game. It's nothing special and control is wrenched away from the player every so often which is jarring but I just love the doom guys reaction to it all. All the npc characters are taking it deadly seriously. Doom guy on the other hand just wants to shoot some demons. His lack of respect for the dialogue and other characters is just brilliantly played out and makes me chuckle every time important dialogue is being spouted out and he just smashes the monitor and continues on. Even the way he takes the upgrades from the drones makes me chuckle.

For all the words written about uncharted 4, another story tube with too many cutscenes, it's strangely doom which is far cleverer.

That_Guy

Traded in Uncharted 4 and decided to splurge on DOOM from Simply Games. Works out at about €45

Have heard mostly positive things about it so decided to take the plunge. I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into it.

CiDeRmAn

Got it today, sold to CEX Dark Souls 3, I'll get it again when the DLC comes out, and bought Doom from a guy on Adverts, and it's stunning!
I'm a jaded old b@stard at this stage but the game looks incredible and plays superbly.
Only getting started here but loving the bit I've played, can't wait to see more of it.

Shiminay

I think anyone trying to play this game without a mouse and keyboard is mental, but anyway... :P

Payday on Friday, might just have to splash... Should probably play Wolfenstein until then

SirLemonhead

Shiminay wrote: »

I think anyone trying to play this game without a mouse and keyboard is mental, but anyway... :P

Payday on Friday, might just have to splash... Should probably play Wolfenstein until then

Found it to be fine.. Sure I played the original one with a Keyboard only. Breezed through this one on Ultra Violence on the xbox.

petes

Think I'll get it for the weekend or if anyone wants to do my job for the rest of the week I'd be more than grateful :pac:

K.O.Kiki

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I think there's not enough said about the writing in this game. It's nothing special and control is wrenched away from the player every so often which is jarring but I just love the doom guys reaction to it all. All the npc characters are taking it deadly seriously. Doom guy on the other hand just wants to shoot some demons. His lack of respect for the dialogue and other characters is just brilliantly played out and makes me chuckle every time important dialogue is being spouted out and he just smashes the monitor and continues on. Even the way he takes the upgrades from the drones makes me chuckle.

For all the words written about uncharted 4, another story tube with too many cutscenes, it's strangely doom which is far cleverer.

(mild spoilers)

CiDeRmAn

Retr0gamer wrote: »

For all the words written about uncharted 4, another story tube with too many cutscenes, it's strangely doom which is far cleverer.

But, sure that was the thing with The Last of Us, fantastic story and some nice gameplay scenes, in particular the one in the snow, but otherwise the gameplay was nothing we'd not seen before, on three occasions in the three Uncharted games. Again, Naughty Dog proved that, despite, Way of the Warrior on the 3DO, they could make a very entertaining, thought provoking, experience, but it was a journey from story to more story through a very attractive linear tunnel.

K.O.Kiki

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

(mild spoilers)

More than mild spoiler!

My favorite doom track was redone also (E1M5).
Sent shivers down my spine when hearing the new version.
Epic stuff from Mick Gordan

biggebruv

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Retr0gamer wrote: »

For all the words written about uncharted 4, another story tube with too many cutscenes, it's strangely doom which is far cleverer.

But, sure that was the thing with The Last of Us, fantastic story and some nice gameplay scenes, in particular the one in the snow, but otherwise the gameplay was nothing we'd not seen before, on three occasions in the three Uncharted games. Again, Naughty Dog proved that, despite, Way of the Warrior on the 3DO, they could make a very entertaining, thought provoking, experience, but it was a journey from story to more story through a very attractive linear tunnel.

and doom is something we havent seen before?

why are we knocking NDs gamestyle? there 2 really different types of games

CiDeRmAn

biggebruv wrote: »

and doom is something we havent seen before?

why are we knocking NDs gamestyle? there 2 really different types of games

Uncharted is lauded as some sort of gamin revolution when it's really a beautiful looking repeat of Naughty Dogs previous four big hits.

Doom represents an evolution from the previous game in the series, a series that happens about once a console generation, in fact even less that that.
We had Doom and Doom 2 on the PC back in the 90's, with various updates afterwards, followed by Doom 3 on the XBox and PC before it was released across all formats, PS3, 360 and PC included, with patches. And now the 4th title in the series, and what an amazing title it is too.

Uncharted is getting such pats on the back, but it really doesn't deserve them, it's true innovation is it's use of mocap performance, that's what separates it from the others, the hand holding and sign posting in those games is disgraceful, the epitome of modern casual gaming, and no precision needed in terms of control, you just push the controller in vaguely the right way and press a context sensitive button to make your character do something cool, a gameplay first cousin to QTEs, the Arkham games suffer from a similar issue, you never feel in control at all.
Dark Souls are the diametric opposite, and Doom is more like that than Uncharted and TLOU.

johnny_ultimate

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Uncharted is lauded as some sort of gamin revolution

Is it? Because anything I've seen has just noted it's pretty much just a refinement of what the series has done before (kinda like Dark Souls 3, actually)

What it does is extremely limited in some respects, not least the ever tedious combat. It's a rollercoaster, with all the limited control that implies. But a rollercoaster has its place, and luckily Uncharted like TLOU is pretty much unique in telling a story that actually has well developed characters and the technology to back it up. And one has to stress it looks legitimately beautiful - and not just as a tech showcase, but a visual and artistic confidence to properly capture and enhance the story its trying to tell - from the small character moments to the swashbuckling adventure.

I look forward to playing Doom at some point in the nearish future - I'm encouraged by what I've heard, although I don't have a real connection to the series as frankly I was too young to play the original when I probably needed to. I'm particularly impressed by what I've heard about the cheeky impatience of the main character just wanting to get back to shooting **** - good to know a game knows exactly what it is. But, well, so does Uncharted 4. And so does Dark Souls. And so does The Witness. And so does Undertale. And so on and so on. I'm just glad we can all pick and choose from a variety of different styles and tones to suit our own moods and interest

Andy Magic

Does anyone know if there is any cheats for Doom on the Xbox One yet? I know they re-used all the old cheats for the pc version but there doesn't seem to be anything available for the Xbox one yet.