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Bacchus

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Yikes, that makes two directors who've left that film due to creative differences. Not a good omen.

So I guess DC isn't allowing creative freedom of the directors in their movie universe after all... like so many were banging on about when the DCMU had just one movie released.

Ultimately it's a pity though, the comic movies need more shots up the arm like Deadpool. Marvel, while enjoyable, has very little flair left. Sure, it's stories/characters throw up some cool visuals, great action and a pleasant narrative with crossovers and a big bad but it's all same same at this point. DC had a chance to do something different, to stand apart from Marvel, but they stumbled at the first hurdle, faceplanted at the second and it's 'quirky' movie wasn't the saviour they hoped for... so they are settling to be a darker, angst-riddled, slow motion version of the MCU. Surprise surprise.

Ben Gadot

Warner Brothers began to stifle creativity a long time ago, all they've done here is prove that they're still fcukwits.

It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

WB being more hands on like Marvel isn't necessarily a bad thing but there's an air of confidence in the latter doing it. Everything from Rhodey/Hulk recast to sacking Edgar Wright, it's worked out fine.

WB just leave a sea of wreckage in their wake everytime they do it.

Nervous Wreck

Agree with you both.

Ben Gadot wrote: »

It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

I can't for the life of me think of who you're talking of...

Ben Gadot

Sorry not a bloke, a woman, Kiersey Clemons. She was in Dope which was directed by your man who dropped out of directing this. She's playing Iris West.

I haven't seen her in anything but it looks like she has okish credits anyway, hopefully she'll be fine.

Doctor DooM

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Warner Brothers began to stifle creativity a long time ago, all they've done here is prove that they're still fcukwits.

It's even more brilliant given that they already allowed the director to put his stamp on the film by casting an actor he's worked with before. I just hope the bloke is good enough to stand on his own!

WB being more hands on like Marvel isn't necessarily a bad thing but there's an air of confidence in the latter doing it. Everything from Rhodey/Hulk recast to sacking Edgar Wright, it's worked out fine.

WB just leave a sea of wreckage in their wake everytime they do it.

I really want to see what the new regime can do though. Maybe we need to give them time.

Even saying that though I feel like I'm giving Warner (as opposed to Affleck/ Johns) a free pass they don't deserve.

Bacchus

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I really want to see what the new regime can do though. Maybe we need to give them time.

Even saying that though I feel like I'm giving Warner (as opposed to Affleck/ Johns) a free pass they don't deserve.

Who's the new regime?

Nervous Wreck

Bacchus wrote: »

Who's the new regime?

Geoff Johns as the man in charge and Ben Affleck as the de facto second (given that he's director and exec producer of the next Batman movie, which is their most viable property).

Ben Gadot

I think Johns has a bigger task on his plate than Feige, as Marvel did everything in house and I doubt Feige has many more above him to answer to creatively.

Johns has to deal with the juggernaut that is WB and it's always going to be a massive roadblock for him. It'd be different if WB just set up a DC sub branch, which would be essentially the equivalent of the Marvel Studios.

Nervous Wreck

Feige has also proved himself with 14 successful movies (some less so but still) and the fact he was able to oust Perlmutter from power over the films shows how much faith Disney has in him.

Johns has proved himself in comics (Rebirth being such a recent success is a huge win for him) and as a competent enough TV writer but they'd be right to keep a watchful eye over his first few films. That said, having someone in creative control who knows and understands the characters will be a brand new thing for WB so they might be so overwhelmed by his knowledge that they just let him go at it!

Doctor DooM

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Feige has also proved himself with 14 successful movies (some less so but still) and the fact he was able to oust Perlmutter from power over the films shows how much faith Disney has in him.

Johns has proved himself in comics (Rebirth being such a recent success is a huge win for him) and as a competent enough TV writer but they'd be right to keep a watchful eye over his first few films. That said, having someone in creative control who knows and understands the characters will be a brand new thing for WB so they might be so overwhelmed by his knowledge that they just let him go at it!

I'm of the opinion that Affleck (who has proven to make amazing films repeatedly with creative control) might provide the strengths where Johns lacks (very few people understand why superheroes work the way he does, thus the success of the rebirth series, but he's not been so successful on the big screen). But they could totally hate each other so you don't really know.

Anyway seeing as Warner has been bought by AT&T there is another, even greater layer of grey suit for them to balance now. It's an unenviable task I'd say but I really, really want them to succeed!

Nervous Wreck

I'm not a big fan of Johns tbh. I've read a few things by him that I've liked a lot but mostly, I find his books boring and samey. That said, I thought DC Universe Rebirth was phenomenal and it's obviously done more than it promised, line-wide so I gotta give him props for that. I also really enjoyed all of his Smallville episodes a lot.

I have huge faith in Affleck though. A great director, a passionate comic book fan.

Agent Coulson

Harley Quinn-Birds of Prey Movie’s Screenwriter Revealed

Screenwriter Christina Hodson is scripting the Harley Quinn/Birds of Prey spinoff for Warner Bros. and DC Films, TheWrap has learned exclusively.

The film is not a Quinn solo movie, but rather would feature multiple female superheroes — and possibly villains — in the DC Comics universe.

Margot Robbie, last seen as the Harley Quinn in “Suicide Squad,” is attached to reprise her role as Quinn and is also producing the untitled project.

http://www.thewrap.com/harley-quinn-birds-of-prey-christina-hodson/

Agent Coulson

Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.

OwaynOTT

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.

Green goblin crossover?

OwaynOTT

Or is he playing that character from the life aquatic?

techdiver

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Willem Dafoe joins the cast of Aquaman.

Already confirmed for Justice League playing Nuidis Vulko (primarily a character from Aquaman), so it's just a natural progression from there.

Nervous Wreck

Here's some terrible news....

David Ayer To Direct Female Led GOTHAM CITY SIRENS Movie Starring Margot Robbie

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/david-ayer-to-direct-female-led-gotham-city-sirens-movie-starring-a147497

Followed by some more terrible news....

SUICIDE SQUAD Sequel Being Developed Alongside A DEADSHOT Solo Movie

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-sequel-being-developed-alongside-a-deadshot-solo-a147500

Links & description stolen from film forum..!

Ben Gadot

Bad news in a way but hardly surprising. Ayer played the company game to perfection while also making money.

pixelburp

Zack Synder and David Ayer, the 2 pillars of DCs movie universe. Lord help us but 2016 really has been one terrible year altogether no matter where you turn.

David Ayer directing an all female (main) cast though. Ha. I wonder if he'll get his tips for strong female characters from Frank Miller :rolleyes:

On a partially unrelated note, I did start watching Supergirl and while its themes are utterly on-the-nose, it's so much fun! Like The Flash really, albeit before Barry started ruining everything The difference between TV DC and Movie DC is so stark is staggering that these properties come from the same origin.

Nervous Wreck

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Bad news in a way but hardly surprising. Ayer played the company game to perfection while also making money.

True enough. People say that eventually everyone will get sick of superhero movies - I think the reality is that DC will destroy it all with lack of focus and terrible directors...

pixelburp wrote: »

Zack Synder and David Ayer, the 2 pillars of DCs movie universe. Lord help us but 2016 really has been one terrible year altogether no matter where you turn.

David Ayer directing an all female (main) cast though. Ha. I wonder if he'll get his tips for strong female characters from Frank Miller

I actually shudder to think. It's gotten to the point where I think I'll only watch the core hero films...

pixelburp wrote: »

On a partially unrelated note, I did start watching Supergirl and while its themes are utterly on-the-nose, it's so much fun! Like The Flash really, albeit before Barry started ruining everything The difference between TV DC and Movie DC is so stark is staggering that these properties come from the same origin.

Yes!

Lithium93_

Megan Fox rumoured to be play Ivy in Gotham City Sirens.

http://www.slashfilm.com/megan-fox-poison-ivy/

Ben Gadot

Ah jesus. If Margot really is one of the producers I can only hope she is mindful of her own casting.

Lithium93_

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Ah jesus. If Margot really is one of the producers I can only hope she is mindful of her own casting.

I've a feeling if the Megan Fox rumour is indeed true, she'd probably be shoehorned in by the studio, add another "big name actress" to the mix, Warner/DC after all do love a bit of a meddle..

FunLover18

Lithium93_ wrote:

I've a feeling if the Megan Fox rumour is indeed true, she'd probably be shoehorned in by the studio, add another "big name actress" to the mix, Warner/DC after all do love a bit of a meddle..

Is Megan Fox still a "big name"?

Lithium93_

FunLover18 wrote: »

Is Megan Fox still a "big name"?

That all depends on a person, but I wouldn't consider her a "big name"

Nervous Wreck

Recognisable without being overly expensive or overshadowing Margot Robbie. Perfect cocktail for a crappy film.

Ben Gadot

Looking at the actual info at hand it looks like Fox put herself forward for the role so in that context....I ain't worried.

Nervous Wreck

If Megan Fox being cast was the worst thing about this movie, I'd be delighted tbh. As it stands though, David Ayer in the director's chair looks tough to beat as the worst thing.

Penn

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

If Megan Fox being cast was the worst thing about this movie, I'd be delighted tbh. As it stands though, David Ayer in the director's chair looks tough to beat as the worst thing.

If Suicide Squad is anything to go by, Poison Ivy will point to a flower, say "I made that" and then never use her powers again for the rest of the film.

Nervous Wreck

Penn wrote: »

If Suicide Squad is anything to go by, Poison Ivy will point to a flower, say "I made that" and then never use her powers again for the rest of the film.

If double-thanking were possible...