Season 6 | Episode 11 | Knots Untie [AMC] [SPOILERS]

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The Walking Dead - Season 6

Episode 11 - "Knots Untie"

Airdate - February 28th on AMC at 9/8c | February 29th on FOX UK at 9pm

After realizing that Alexandria may not be as safe as he originally thought, Rick must make decisions about where to go.

Promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOX2E6d0578

Sneak Peek 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2x6gBp-3OE

Sneak Peek 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcsxu0Mr-8Q

LionelNashe

7

Bad move to start a fight they don't need - they don't know their enemy and they don't know their battlefield, and they don't even have Carol with them.

viztopia

5

I think they go back home before they go for negan. Seen a few pics on the amc website.

LionelNashe wrote: »

Bad move to start a fight they don't need - they don't know their enemy and they don't know their battlefield, and they don't even have Carol with them.

princemuzzy

viztopia wrote: »

I think they go back home before they go for negan. Seen a few pics on the amc website.

yep they def do

i liked how it wasnt all roses in jesus camp

they didnt try to sugar coat what they needed from ricks group Gregory is clearly not to be trusted and no hidden meanings

its a but filler but good filler

Cantona's Collars

LionelNashe wrote: »

Bad move to start a fight they don't need - they don't know their enemy and they don't know their battlefield, and they don't even have Carol with them.

The clip at the end: "In next weeks Walking Dead",they show everybody together having a meeting and heading out on the road.

Lone Stone

7

good episode, i liked how they were using spears and had a black smithy!

dori_dormer

6

Where is carol? She hasn't been around for 2 episodes at least. Did I miss something? Seems like they gave a bunch of people a holiday or soemthing! Also can't believe they didn't bring a single original Alexandrian on that road trip.

Also was a bit odd that Rick mentioned Gabriel minding the baby again. It's not a few hours, it'd be a few days. And he's a priest. Least experienced person in the whole place!

They clearly had to go back to Alexandria anyway. They couldn't risk losing all that loot by going after negan straight away. Plus they need to pick up the rocket launcher!
Maggie in the bedroom convo seemed a bit unnatural to me. Also her ultrasound looked weird. I presume she's at least 3 months at this stage? But maybe the equipment was ****e.
Jesus' hair extensions annoyed me no end.

The Talking Bread

6

LionelNashe wrote: »

Bad move to start a fight they don't need - they don't know their enemy and they don't know their battlefield, and they don't even have Carol with them.

Great move for the viewers though! This is what its all about! Not growing tomatoes and cucumbers, love triangles and baby scans!!

Snake Plisken

6

I'm kind of worried about Abraham he was kind of acting weird throughout the episode, hope he doesn't die as I think he is a great character!
I'm surprised Darryl isn't more worried about facing Negan's and his men the lads on the bikes were pretty hardcore and would have killed them only for the rocket launcher! Good filler episode overall not looking forward to Negan as I reckon we will lose a few familiar faces when that face off happens!

LionelNashe

7

Rick, looking at the others: "What?"
Everyone else: "Ehm, you got a little blood on you when you were opening that guy's throat..beside your mouth...no, left a bit...there, you got it".

Nervous Wreck

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I'm kind of worried about Abraham he was kind of acting weird throughout the episode, hope he doesn't die as I think he is a great character!
I'm surprised Darryl isn't more worried about facing Negan's and his men the lads on the bikes were pretty hardcore and would have killed them only for the rocket launcher! Good filler episode overall not looking forward to Negan as I reckon we will lose a few familiar faces when that face off happens!

Yeah someone will die. Smart money's on Abraham but they could still go the way of the comics.

Mr.Nice Guy

4

Looks like Rosita's days are numbered.

Seems apparent the guy Rick is trusting to take him to Negan's place will turn on him in the hope he'll be rewarded. But he'll probably be killed off since he's not Glenn.

Why is Jesus not the one pushing for an assault on Negan? Last week he came across like a risk-taker, someone who lives on the edge; this week he seemed totally passive. He's just a seemingly very well accomplished martial artist who happens to want to be part of a community that offers up absolutely no fighting resistance to the big bullying group nearby, and who happily puts up with someone he views as a poor leader. Sure, why not.

The assassination attempt was ridiculous. Did the guy doing it really think that murdering an innocent person was the best decision in the circumstances? And as for the bystanders (well done for just standing around watching by the way), why were they pissed off at Rick's group who were quite clearly looking to prevent harm? 'Hey man, leave 'im alone! He just tried to kill our leader, that's all. We all have rough days, y'know.'

Jesus says Gregory is in charge because he's popular. Not on that evidence. Hope he isn't planning to stand for re-election. Incredibly speedy recovery by the way for ol' Gregory after his KNIFE ATTACK. Ah, just a scratch I guess.

Speaking of hard-to-believe medical moments, they found a baby doctor! And he has a fully functioning ultrasound too! What ARE the chances? 'Man my tooth is really sore; it might have to come out.' 'Wait, there's a guy by the side of the road - he says he's a fully qualified orthodontist!'

And isn't it extraordinary that Glenn and Maggie decided to start a family - IN THE MIDDLE OF THE APOCALYPSE. Yeah because the last woman in the group who was pregnant - it worked out really well for her didn't it?

Would have been nice if the writers had Rick talk to Glenn about his experience with Laurie. Remember those storylines about whether or not she should keep the baby? Perhaps have Rick tell Glenn or Maggie that he sometimes wonders if Laurie would still be there if she had made a different choice? You know, believable emotional concerns? But nah, why go down that route when we can watch Maggie and Gregory play Dragon's Den together.

5/10

LionelNashe

7

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

....... Incredibly speedy recovery by the way for ol' Gregory after his KNIFE ATTACK. Ah, just a scratch I guess.

..........

Not as incredible as Carl getting shot point blank in the eye two weeks ago, and then a couple of scenes later you see the doctor lady saying "And just one more suture...there, done."

brianregan09

7

Wasn't a month passed after Carl getting shot in the eye

charlietheminxx

6

For a character development episode, I thought it was excellent. Really enjoying Season 6 so far, bar some sloppy writing of a few details the story progression has been awesome.

delly

6

Good solid episode, new people, new places, setting up for a major showdown. The odd bit of lovey-dovey tender moments, grand, every episode has thought provoking filler.

The choice of going after Negan is nothing unexpected from the group imho. They have taken out big foe previously such as the governor. They also have advance knowledge of Negan having taken out a nice sized group via RPG. It also gives them resource, so is a natural choice to aid survival.

I'd say Michonne is now kicking herself for having got with Rick before a big battle. Time to put on the red shirt Michonne.

duridian

8

Great episode. I'm really kind of wondering where they are going with the Abraham stuff in this episode, and frankly a bit worried for him now that a pretty massive rumble with Negan & co. is imminent, with a very high likelihood of the loss of somebody from Team Rick.

topmanamillion

6

I enjoyed this episode despite the usual potholes which have been mentioned.
The showdown with Neagan will certainly be interesting. It's pretty obvious they are underestimating him, Daryls line about Neagan having a good story and being the "boogeyman" really stands out.
It's really interesting to consider the consequences of defeat/victory.
Victory will mean sustainability as Ricks group trades with Gregorys and the other network of settlements that Jesus mentioned.
Defeat will mean coming under Neagans control and all the consequences for their resources that will have.
Inevitably there will be deaths in Ricks group. (Abraham, Maggie, Michone and Sasha are all big possibilities)
It's set up really well to be a very strong season ending couple of episodes.

Robsweezie

I love how the group are downplaying negan as just another gareth-type nuisance they can dispose of.

Maggie has been quite underused the past season or so, needs more screentime. this episode with gregory was probably the best/most material she's gotten in a while. shes just been crying over glenn and behind the scenes with the monroes up to this point. even in the ''no way out'' episodes she was barely featured up on that ladder. its good seeing her more active with the group.

Sudden Valley

I really am enjoying the new plot but i still think the Jesus character is too much of a one-joke character (his look and friends of jesus reference). Also the maggie should really havr improved her southern accent by now

The Talking Bread

6

LionelNashe wrote: »

Not as incredible as Carl getting shot point blank in the eye two weeks ago, and then a couple of scenes later you see the doctor lady saying "And just one more suture...there, done."

it was three months jump forward just in case you didnt know. Still speedy recovery of course but as I salways say the show is based on comics so you have to abandon a sense of reality.

The Talking Bread

6

LionelNashe wrote: »

Not as incredible as Carl getting shot point blank in the eye two weeks ago, and then a couple of scenes later you see the doctor lady saying "And just one more suture...there, done."

my apologies, just saw you were referring to the stitching up! still, its what happens in the comics, I suppose! Kirkman's medical knowledge a tad off methinks 😄

The Talking Bread

6

Sudden Valley wrote: »

I really am enjoying the new plot but i still think the Jesus character is too much of a one-joke character (his look and friends of jesus reference). Also the maggie should really havr improved her southern accent by now

Ah, I love Jesus! great character!

gungun

Absolutely loved the moment the fight stopped, when Rick looked up and said 'What?'. Really sums up how far he's come, brilliant.

uncleoswald

7

Great episode. Slow but now whatever happens when they do attack Negan it will have some resonance unlike the first episode back after the break which was just a lot of empty action.

The group have basically agreed to become guns for hire and don't seem to have thought twice about it. I wonder how Morgan will take the news. I suspect we'll have a Morgan/Carol episode soon.

thegreengoblin

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Looks like Rosita's days are numbered.

Seems apparent the guy Rick is trusting to take him to Negan's place will turn on him in the hope he'll be rewarded. But he'll probably be killed off since he's not Glenn.

Why is Jesus not the one pushing for an assault on Negan? Last week he came across like a risk-taker, someone who lives on the edge; this week he seemed totally passive. He's just a seemingly very well accomplished martial artist who happens to want to be part of a community that offers up absolutely no fighting resistance to the big bullying group nearby, and who happily puts up with someone he views as a poor leader. Sure, why not.

The assassination attempt was ridiculous. Did the guy doing it really think that murdering an innocent person was the best decision in the circumstances? And as for the bystanders (well done for just standing around watching by the way), why were they pissed off at Rick's group who were quite clearly looking to prevent harm? 'Hey man, leave 'im alone! He just tried to kill our leader, that's all. We all have rough days, y'know.'

Jesus says Gregory is in charge because he's popular. Not on that evidence. Hope he isn't planning to stand for re-election. Incredibly speedy recovery by the way for ol' Gregory after his KNIFE ATTACK. Ah, just a scratch I guess.

Speaking of hard-to-believe medical moments, they found a baby doctor! And he has a fully functioning ultrasound too! What ARE the chances? 'Man my tooth is really sore; it might have to come out.' 'Wait, there's a guy by the side of the road - he says he's a fully qualified orthodontist!'

And isn't it extraordinary that Glenn and Maggie decided to start a family - IN THE MIDDLE OF THE APOCALYPSE. Yeah because the last woman in the group who was pregnant - it worked out really well for her didn't it?

Would have been nice if the writers had Rick talk to Glenn about his experience with Laurie. Remember those storylines about whether or not she should keep the baby? Perhaps have Rick tell Glenn or Maggie that he sometimes wonders if Laurie would still be there if she had made a different choice? You know, believable emotional concerns? But nah, why go down that route when we can watch Maggie and Gregory play Dragon's Den together.

5/10

I really don't see the issue with Glenn and Maggie starting a family. They've seen that there is still hope in this awful world, they're madly in love, they have an understanding with each other that wouldn't have been possible in the normal world...and so they decided to have a baby. It's just part of a wider message in the show that life is still going on and there is a future there for mankind.

Of course there are huge risks involved. But your point about Lori doesn't really stand up as Judith is still around, isn't she?

As for Jesus, the guy who you're suggesting he should be standing up to sounds like a murdering psychopath, one that beat a 16-year-old to death in full view of the Hilltop residents. It's natural that Jesus and the rest of them are so reluctant to stand up to him by themselves. In last week's episode he was on his own and his survival instinct kicked in. Within the overall picture, he's happy enough to still be alive given what's out there.

Thought that was a really good episode, nicely paced and well structured.

Potential-Monke

7

Rick only every looks his best when dripping sweat and covered in blood. That's the real Rick, the true Rick. And they have completely come to terms with the fact that they are the best killers out there. They even acknowledged it in the show. I reckon their laid back attitude towards Negan and the fight that's coming will backfire. Daryl reckons Negan is a bogeyman story, that he doesn't have the resources that he claims to have. I think otherwise. I reckon Rick and Co. will head on in there and very quickly realise that there's a lot more to Negan than they think. either way, it will be interesting.

It seems like they're either setting up Maggie, Glenn, Abraham, Sasha or Rosita to die, with my money being on Sasha and Rosita. Sasha is all but done, don't see her often and she annoys me anyway, so no loss. I reckon Rosita is gone because they're setting up Abraham to finally decide to have a family and it'll all go tits up, which will result in an uber-pissed off Abraham who'll probably go psycho for next season.

Realistically, even though they've killed off very popular and "main" characters, i don't think they're going to ever get rid of Rick, Daryl, Michonne or Glenn. They draw too much of an audience, and i'd say killing them off would see a drop in viewer figures. Maybe not though. Maybe Carol has it coming as penance for freaking out that kid!

5starpool

6

Am I the only one who expected Gregory to say something different when he opened the door and said "Jesus". The Irishman in me expected him to follow that up with something like "you gave me a fright".

empacher

Tbh id hope after negans group gets taken out. Ricks group sets up a regular tribute from jesus's group. Like a mafia protection scheme. Why not just fill the void. Take a lesser % then negans and you'll have less resistence.

Mr.Nice Guy

4

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I really don't see the issue with Glenn and Maggie starting a family. They've seen that there is still hope in this awful world, they're madly in love, they have an understanding with each other that wouldn't have been possible in the normal world...and so they decided to have a baby. It's just part of a wider message in the show that life is still going on and there is a future there for mankind.

Well of course Glen has hope: he's been rescued from several hopelessly impossible situations already. But to be serious here, it is absolutely ridiculous and illogical the idea that this pregnancy was PLANNED. It's as if Glenn and Maggie have no concerns whatsoever that anything bad could happen. The way it was handled with Rick and Lori was believable; this isn't.

For example, if I remember correctly one of Lori's concerns was that the foetus might die and that she might then be ripped apart from the inside by the deceased foetus. But neither Glenn nor Maggie are concerned about this. Even if the foetus were to survive, how would it be delivered safely? Glenn and Maggie were nonchalant about it before the new doctor showed up. Are we supposed to believe they had total confidence in Denise handling it with the tools at her disposal? It's ridiculous. I don't care how lovey dovey there are. is there a rush? Is Maggie in her mid to late forties? No. Logically in that situation do you not think you would hold off on starting a family until a bit of stability took hold? Until, y'know, you weren't facing life or death situations every bloody week? To choose to start a family in this environment is one of two things: naivety or idiocy. Take your pick.

thegreengoblin wrote:

Of course there are huge risks involved. But your point about Lori doesn't really stand up as Judith is still around, isn't she?

So Lori's death doesn't matter because the baby made it? So Glenn will be fine with Maggie dying as long as the baby makes it? And Judith has been in several life-or-death situations already, e.g. when Carol and Tyreese had to protect her. Not to mention the recent episode where they had to slip past the walkers and one loud gurgle from the baby would have doomed all of them.

Leave aside that this has become a silly TV show of late where A-list characters are practically invulnerable and that they obviously won't kill off the baby; if this were a serious attempt at a zombie apocalypse, lugging around a baby is the last thing people would want to do. You would hope for stability and a safe haven before attempting repopulation.

thegreengoblin wrote:

As for Jesus, the guy who you're suggesting he should be standing up to sounds like a murdering psychopath, one that beat a 16-year-old to death in full view of the Hilltop residents. It's natural that Jesus and the rest of them are so reluctant to stand up to him by themselves. In last week's episode he was on his own and his survival instinct kicked in. Within the overall picture, he's happy enough to still be alive given what's out there.

Jesus is a guy that last week had freedom of movement, was shown to be savvy and resourceful (i.e. firecrackers) and had combat skills that enabled him to hold his own against both Rick and Daryl. My point is thus: why would someone with such skills waste them by staying in a community that was at the mercy of this psychopath? Why would he not get the hell out of there? He's got the skills of Steven Seagal and Bear Grills rolled into one but he'd rather sit around and twiddle his fingers in a community that's on its knees and back a leader that he doesn't rate? Sorry, this doesn't add up to the picture of the guy we were presented with last week.

thegreengoblin wrote:

Thought that was a really good episode, nicely paced and well structured.

I thought it was a mess.

The Talking Bread

6

thegreengoblin wrote: »

I really don't see the issue with Glenn and Maggie starting a family. They've seen that there is still hope in this awful world, they're madly in love, they have an understanding with each other that wouldn't have been possible in the normal world...and so they decided to have a baby. It's just part of a wider message in the show that life is still going on and there is a future there for mankind.

Of course there are huge risks involved. But your point about Lori doesn't really stand up as Judith is still around, isn't she?

As for Jesus, the guy who you're suggesting he should be standing up to sounds like a murdering psychopath, one that beat a 16-year-old to death in full view of the Hilltop residents. It's natural that Jesus and the rest of them are so reluctant to stand up to him by themselves. In last week's episode he was on his own and his survival instinct kicked in. Within the overall picture, he's happy enough to still be alive given what's out there.

Thought that was a really good episode, nicely paced and well structured.

that and they have no weapons or fighting experience 😄

Jofspring

9

I thought it was a very good episode. Not much arsing around. In other seasons we would have had them arrive at Jesus camp, spend 3 episodes there doing nothing before getting to the bottom of things. This one got straight to the point.

It's perfectly plausible that they would attack Negans group. We have seen that group lose the bikers and Daryl did some damage a few episodes back when in the woods to one or two if I remember correctly. Surely that guy who has been at the camp will be able to tell them whether they are completely outnumbered or not.

This season, despite a few plot holes, has been the best since season one in my opinion. Pacing has been way better and plenty of action thrown in.

teddykrueger

6

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Jesus is a guy that last week had freedom of movement, was shown to be savvy and resourceful (i.e. firecrackers) and had combat skills that enabled him to hold his own against both Rick and Daryl. My point is thus: why would someone with such skills waste them by staying in a community that was at the mercy of this psychopath? Why would he not get the hell out of there? He's got the skills of Steven Seagal and Bear Grills rolled into one but he'd rather sit around and twiddle his fingers in a community that's on its knees and back a leader that he doesn't rate? Sorry, this doesn't add up to the picture of the guy we were presented with last week.

So, just because he's good at something he should shun the community and go it alone? Out there with all the zombies, scavenging for food and looking for shelter?

He's a human being who probably likes the security of the community and having other people around to form social bonds with, regarldess of their deal with Negan.

He's good at those things yes and maybe he could thrive elsewhere, but I think it's how he helps the community in return for what he gets out of it.

Username exists

The Talking Bread wrote: »

it was three months jump forward just in case you didnt know. Still speedy recovery of course but as I salways say the show is based on comics so you have to abandon a sense of reality.

I'm wondering where did they find a chemist to develop the picture of Carl with the eye patch and the baby at the start of episode 10

smash

Username exists wrote: »

I'm wondering where did they find a chemist to develop the picture of Carl with the eye patch and the baby at the start of episode 10

Have you considered that maybe it was a digital photograph and they have a printer?

MarkR

Username exists wrote: »

I'm wondering where did they find a chemist to develop the picture of Carl with the eye patch and the baby at the start of episode 10

Those black and white photos appeared before they even got to alexandria. I seem to recall the alexandrian scout showing it them, and apologizing for the picture quality. I know there's some skill involved, but all you need is a dark room and some chemicals, and a book telling you how?

I hate the mayor of the town. Awful creep. Slimy. Rick needs to work on his first impressions. Seems to keep getting covered in blood everytime he meets people!

Ginger gi joe cracks me up. Were you looking to make pancakes when you were pouring the bisquick?

When it's raining, I wear galoshes. I double up.

You can't put off life forever, I can see why they'd want to have a kid. They said before that as soon as they were somewhere stable, they would try.

ceadaoin.

MarkR wrote: »

Those black and white photos appeared before they even got to alexandria. I seem to recall the alexandrian scout showing it them, and apologizing for the picture quality. I know there's some skill involved, but all you need is a dark room and some chemicals, and a book telling you how?

I hate the mayor of the town. Awful creep. Slimy. Rick needs to work on his first impressions. Seems to keep getting covered in blood everytime he meets people!

Ginger gi joe cracks me up. Were you looking to make pancakes when you were pouring the bisquick?

When it's raining, I wear galoshes. I double up.

You can't put off life forever, I can see why they'd want to have a kid. They said before that as soon as they were somewhere stable, they would try.

Someone needs to tell him that doubling up is risky and more likely to result in pancakes!

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I reckon Rosita is gone because they're setting up Abraham to finally decide to have a family and it'll all go tits up, which will result in an uber-pissed off Abraham who'll probably go psycho for next season.

He decided to leave rosita for Sasha I think. That's what his weird behaviour was all about. I don't think rosita will die

Did I miss something but how did Jesus get on top of the truck? They left him tied up and drove off a few seconds later

Also, I thought it was a bit too convenient that the doctor just happens to be an obstetrician and the town has no ammo or decent weapons but does have a sonogram machine. What are the odds!

Aenaes

"Hmm, some sort of nation-wide disaster of a virus is happening. I know, let's all head to that museum we went to on a school tour!"

What? That was the reasoning for congregating there? Great logic.

When Maggie said to Gregory, "One more thing." Does anyone else think she is gonna make Gregory give her the painting?

The Talking Bread

6

Aenaes wrote: »

"Hmm, some sort of nation-wide disaster of a virus is happening. I know, let's all head to that museum we went to on a school tour!"

What? That was the reasoning for congregating there? Great logic.

When Maggie said to Gregory, "One more thing." Does anyone else think she is gonna make Gregory give her the painting?

I think the location was chosen based on the ability to view the surrounding area for miles from the top tower, thats what Gregory said in the episode, It probably started with only a few survivors inhabiting it but, like in Alexandria, they incrementally recruited. There is probably not much fear of too many walkers venturing up there really as its very much off the beaten track.

dr.kenneth noisewater

6

Aenaes wrote:

When Maggie said to Gregory, "One more thing." Does anyone else think she is gonna make Gregory give her the painting?

Thought the exact same thing myself!