How to get Excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church?

Shrap

Absolam wrote: »

If it makes you feel more turned on (though I can't imagine how), it is my opinion that trying to be reasonable when reasoning out your opinions often results in a more reasonable opinion

Boom!

You do so well when you use less words Absolam! Mind you, you're not the only one. Maybe I'll try reading one of your tit for tats with Nozz again tomorrow, although I usually come away from them feeling like I'd have been better off wondering whether a puppy or a two year old would make less mess with candyfloss, till someone breaks out the baby wipes.

Absolam

Shrap wrote: »

Boom! You do so well when you use less words Absolam! Mind you, you're not the only one. Maybe I'll try reading one of your tit for tats with Nozz again tomorrow, although I usually come away from them feeling like I'd have been better off wondering whether a puppy or a two year old would make less mess with candyfloss, till someone breaks out the baby wipes.

I'd exhort you not to bother; it hardly seems worth the effort to me, I can't imagine it's worth the effort to anyone else.

endacl

topmanamillion wrote: »

Anyone know of a way to do this? That doesn't involve 7 trials or a bit of alone time in the desert.
I'd be really interested in getting excommunicated.
There'd be a novelty factor to it and any excommunication that I got would be framed and have pride of place.

Kick Bishop Brennan up the arse.

Shrap

Absolam wrote: »

I'd exhort you not to bother; it hardly seems worth the effort to me, I can't imagine it's worth the effort to anyone else.

Then why?! Why, on earth do you make the effort?! Is it like the mountain.....because it's there?


Sigh. I feel the urge to go add some interest to the currently unreadable abortion thread before sleep. Night.

Absolam

Shrap wrote: »

Then why?! Why, on earth do you make the effort?! Is it like the mountain.....because it's there?
Sigh. I feel the urge to go add some interest to the currently unreadable abortion thread before sleep. Night.

Mmm... sometimes, yes And I'm often bored whilst others slumber. Sleep well.

Kiwi in IE

I think Absolam wants to put us off posting our heathen views

Occasionally when I see Absolam has replied to one of my posts, particularly at a time when I should be doing other things, my first thought is "Oh ****e! Now I'm in this for the long haul!"

Absolam

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

I think Absolam wants to put us off posting our heathen views
Occasionally when I see Absolam has replied to one of my posts, particularly at a time when I should be doing other things, my first thought is "Oh ****e! Now I'm in this for the long haul!"

Gosh no! And please, don't feel any obligation; there's practically nothing you should be doing irl that could be less important than reading what I say here.

Kiwi in IE

Absolam wrote: »

Gosh no! And please, don't feel any obligation; there's practically nothing you should be doing irl that could be less important than reading what I say here.

And now you have reminded me that by spending time arguing on Boards, I am in breach of the Girl Guide laws! I wonder will I be forgiven if I confess to a Girl Guide leader?

Absolam

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

And now you have reminded me that by spending time arguing on Boards, I am in breach of the Girl Guide laws! I wonder will I be forgiven if I confess to a Girl Guide leader?

I'm not sure I want to be considering the kind of penance a Girl Guide leader might exact for such moral turpitude. Some of them were inclined to inventiveness as I recall from group camps.

Samaris

As I recall from Brigins, the promise went something as follows;

"On my honour with the grace of God, I [name] promise to do my best to serve God and his Holy Church (to...something, something else, I've forgotten something), to help one another at all times and to keep the Brigin Law."

Absolam

Irish Girl Guides was pretty much the same as the Scouts;
“I promise on my honour to do my best to do my duty to my God and my country, to help other people at all times and to obey the Guide law”.
Brigini were the Catholic Girl Guides; the Scouting Association of Ireland and the Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland amalgamated into Scouting Ireland some years ago but I don't know about the Girl Guide movements...

looksee

Brigini were the younger Girl Guides, the same as the UK Brownies. I valued my time in both Brownies and Guides. Sadly when I came to Ireland I offered my services as a Guide leader, but the local groups were all Catholic Girl Guides, (afaik Ireland was the only country to have specifically Catholic Scout/Guide groups) so my offer was declined.

Guides and Scouts are separate organisations in Ireland, in the UK the groups are mixed boys and girls. In the UK the promise is 'to do my duty to God and the Queen' but this can be adjusted to suit different faiths. In Ireland the promise is 'to my God and my country'.

Absolam

Actually Scouting in Ireland became mixed gender in 1987; and the CBSI joined the SAI in 2004. Girl Guides remain single gender both in the UK and Ireland as far as I know, and they are both still separate organisations from the Scouts (the Guide Association in the UK, and the Irish Girl Guides & Catholic Guides of Ireland), though Scout Groups like my own would generally have had close ties to the local Girl Guide troop and occasionally share (carefully supervised) group activities.

The Catholic Boy Scout movement extends far beyond Ireland though; the International Catholic Conference of Scouting based in Rome is responsible for Catholic Scouting around the world, including the National Catholic Scout Fellowship in the UK.

cowboyBuilder

What annoys me about it is the RCC still use us as statistics.

They will say we have x million believers - which is total bollix ...especially when I am being used as a stat ... to back an organisation - that condones child rape

looksee

Sheesh cB, you are one in a (or several) million. But please don't shout!

Absolam

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

What annoys me about it is the RCC still use us as statistics.
They will say we have x million believers - which is total bollix ...especially when I am being used as a stat ... to back an organisation - that condones child rape

If you can find your name in their statistics I'm sure they'd take it out if you asked; at least out of the list of Catholics used to back the organisation that condones child rape, anyways.

Otherwise; the Vatican Statistical Yearbook specifies it's figures for the number of Catholics (it say's there are x number of Catholics, rather than we have x number believers) are estimates (so they're not necessarily using you as a statistic), and has the caveat: ""It must be remembered that a worldwide survey of this kind is bound to be influenced by some extent by the often considerable differences in the circumstances of the ecclesiastical jurisdictions in various countries.". So you could take comfort in the notion that their statistics are rather vague estimates?

In the US, the Catholic Research Forum defines Catholics as people who are baptised into the church and arrange for a Catholic funeral.
The Pew Research Center counts Catholics as those who self identify as such in censuses.
Some Boardsies count Catholics as those who adhere to Church doctrine in all matters of observance and conform to appropriate stereotypes.
So you probably aren't considered to be contributing to some of those statistics...

Though if you were to get yourself excommunicated Ferendæ Sententiæ, you could appear in the statistics of baptised Catholics who have been named excommunicants? That might be a more fun statistic to be part of; there's a few cool people in that statistic like Robert the Bruce, Joan of Arc, Napoleon, Fidel Castro...

All in all, it's probably best just not to worry about being used as a statistic; it's not (in this particular case) likely to make any appreciable difference to your life other than the ennui you yourself work up about it. Or... you could keep a stock letter/email at home, so that every time you see an article saying 'according to the Vatican the number of Catholics is x' you can send them a letter saying 'Dear sir, in actual fact it is not the number of Catholics, but the number of reported Catholic baptisms adjusted for catachumens and estimated deaths and other measurements'. That'll tell 'em.