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What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?
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Im just back, I only got the one bottle. I wonder was that you in front of me in the que. Do you have a beard by chance? (not exactly narrowing it down to be fair)
Im (very) unshaven but not a beard. I was there about ~1.30, had to put the 2nd bottle back and didn't take my receipt coz the printer ran out if any of that narrows it down
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Im (very) unshaven but not a beard. I was there about ~1.30, had to put the 2nd bottle back and didn't take my receipt coz the printer ran out if any of that narrows it down
No I was in there around 2pm give or take 5mins.
The fact that 6,000 bottles have been released in the first batch probably wont mean the value will creep up all that much to be honest so I probably dont need the second bottle. Ill just crack this one open!0 -
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It's a blend of 18 yr old pot still and grain whiskey! Not something I'd spend €240 on when I can get 3 red breast 12 cask strength for almost the same price. I've seen a video of one guy saying it's comparable to Jameson black barrel.
But, if santa gets me one for Christmas I won't complain 0 -
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I didn't miss the point. If you think no 18 is ever worth that, that fineNo need for the little whisky lesson, I get why blends are cheaper and in some cases (MVR) expensive. But you missed my point. It's an 18 yo blended whiskey. For €240. No 18 yo is worth that.
But you keep repeating thatbits abs 18yo blended whiskey. I'm pointing out that the blended part is irrelevant.
What is bad logic? There no logic quoted there???Scotch 18 yo (since there is no Irish 18) are priced from 80-120 on average. But if you think €240 is an appropriate price for an 18 year old blend then that is pretty bad logic
The Jamison 18 year old is 200 not 240. The 240 is for the cask strength version.
In its previous iteration it was about 100. It's almost as if age is one of many variables.
It probably is, but not actually relevant to what I said.A 25 year old single malt is far superior to an 18 year old blend imo. Especially for the same price. Not rocket science.
How have I abandoned logic?Three times more expensive? You mentioned logic earlier and apparently you've abandoned it completely.
Most of what you are saying is irrelevant to my point tbh. I'm not (and was never) arguing that the Bow St CS is worth €240. I wouldn't make that case without at least trying tbh.
I'm pointing out that the fact it's a blend is irrelevant to whether or not it's worth it..
The DG was just an example of an expensive drop that's not particularly old. To highlight that age is only one factor.You mentioned midleton Dair Ghaelach. The price of that can be justified since it spent the last year in virgin Irish oak. I'd imagine the cost of felling the trees, having them quarter sawn and sent to Spain to be made into casks specifically for that whiskey would be very high indeed.
The Virgin oak shouldn't really add much expense tbh. All casks were once trees. Every cheap bourbon uses virgin oak. The up front costs, are recooped in the resale.
DG costs is down to its curated nature, the relatively high attention it gets compared to a random whiskey.0 -
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As I said, not looking for right or wrong answers Just opinions.lord lucan wrote: »Water,yeast and barley. That's it.
The above is obviously correct. There are other ways to look at too. Like the below.EagererBeaver wrote: »Water, malted grains (naturally a preference towards barley for me but I'm not snobby or uneducated enough to think that it HAS to be Barley), and aroma and colour absorbed from the barrel.
There is a reason behind this btw.
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As I said, wasn't arguing it was worth it, was purely aboutthe blended part.. I've never tried it, so little to go on.Ok let's just put this one to rest shall we :< I personally think it's too expensive for an 18 yo.
On another note, rumours of red spot 15 year old soon to be released according to this article:
If I was buying an irish whiskey for 200+, I'd be more inclined to go Barry Crocket or Dair Ghaelach tbh.
Depends how you look at it.Useful.Idiot wrote: »It says it will be priced "premium" to Redbreast 15, so I'd say 120 at the least.
Yellowspot is more expensive to Redbreast 12 - though 12 year olds. So by that measure the spots are more premium and €120 makes sense.
On the other hand, The RB12 to RB15 is a relatively big price jump. The GS to YS is only €20 and a similar age increase as YS to RS, so could be closer to €100.
Split the difference. €110 0 -
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uncommon_name wrote: »I have got both of them in already. Very nice addition to the collection
RB 21 is something else, great choice. Will you drink the Jameson or just have it as part of a collection?0 -
RB 21 is something else, great choice. Will you drink the Jameson or just have it as part of a collection?
I got it for the collection for now, but you never know what will happen in a few years I may decide to open it. I got the Cask Strength version, I am thinking of getting the normal version now too. 0 -
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As I said, not looking for right or wrong answers Just opinions.
The above is obviously correct. There are other ways to look at too. Like the below.
There is a reason behind this btw.
There's so many tiny factors that affect the final matured whiskey that its fascinating. The make-up of the distillate that goes into the cask is so important. Recently I got the chance to taste two of the high proof distillates that they use in Midleton. One was from a still that they use for Jameson stuff and one was from a still they use for Redbreast. The size and shape of the still used for distillation has such a big effect on how it tastes. Then each one is going to react with the wood differently, and will react to the elements when being matured differently and so on. Not even mentioning things like where the water and barley is sourced from. I think the tour guides in Teelings say that the taste of a whiskey is 60/40 distillate/barrel. Not sure how accurate that is. Maybe it skews more barrel for more aged whiskeys.Depends how you look at it.
Yellowspot is more expensive to Redbreast 12 - though 12 year olds. So by that measure the spots are more premium and €120 makes sense.
On the other hand, The RB12 to RB15 is a relatively big price jump. The GS to YS is only €20 and a similar age increase as YS to RS, so could be closer to €100.
Split the difference. €110
Aye yeah could be indeed. Cheaper the better is what everyone is hoping though of course :pac:0 -
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