What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

L1011

You would not be allowed sell an Irish/Scottish product as "single Coffey Malt" though, as you cannot use the term malt on column distilled whiskey. Just because there's a secondary definition in there also does not circumvent the other restrictions.

Hotblack Desiato

That rule is a bit silly really as 'malt' refers to the grain not the distillation method.

Also according to the definition of Irish Whiskey on Wikipedia, 100% maize would not be allowed as malted grains are required?

L1011

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

That rule is a bit silly really as 'malt' refers to the grain not the distillation method.

Also according to the definition of Irish Whisky on Wikipedia, 100% maize would not be allowed as malted grains are required?

Maximum of 30% malt in grain whiskey, no specification of the floor but it does suggest 100% unmalted is not acceptable

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/foodindustrydevelopmenttrademarkets/geographicalindicationsprotectednames/IrishWhiskeytechnicalfile141114.pdf

Mookie Blaylock

Amazon UK are doing Johnny Walker Blue for £99 today

Mellor

L1011 wrote: »

You would not be allowed sell an Irish/Scottish product as "single Coffey Malt" though, as you cannot use the term malt on column distilled whiskey. Just because there's a secondary definition in there also does not circumvent the other restrictions.

I think you've understood me. I'm aware of the regulations.
I'm saying "single coffey malt" or a similar variation makes more sense as an additional category because it falls outside the current definitions.

It's not pot stilled so it's not a single malt. But it's technically not a single grain either. Which is what it's currently labelled as.

Wailin

So what's the Nikka Coffey Grain labeled as? Single malt

All very confusing in fairness though. The main difference between pot still and column still is pot still distillation are made in batches, whereas column still is continuous. The mash flows in continuously.

Have sampled both the Coffey Malt and Grain and preffered the grain but both are very nice.

Whiskey Eire

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

Amazon UK are doing Johnny Walker Blue for £99 today

Green label for 27 pound too is a brilliant price.

L1011

Whiskey Eire wrote: »

Green label for 27 pound too is a brilliant price.

Is it the same taste profile as before its unceremonious removal from the lineup?

The travel "Island Green" they flogged as a replacement wasn't really up to it.

mik_da_man

Was at whiskey Live myself on Saturday evening.
Just ok now

Fantastic night as usual, started with the Teeling Brabazon which I've never tried before, really liked that.
Went on to Walsh for a sample of the Irishman 17, that's a cracking whiskey.
Then on to the Spot Master class, which was brilliant.
I liked the Red Spot, but the surprise of the class was a component of the 15 aged in Marsala casks. Wonderful stuff.

Back out to the hall for more whiskies.
Good few more samples were enjoyed, the ones that stood out to me were Clon Port cask, Dingle Pot Still, Dunvilles 12 and some under the counter stuff, in particular on the Method and Madness stand.

Great evening and looking forward to next year already!

Whiskey Eire

L1011 wrote: »

Is it the same taste profile as before its unceremonious removal from the lineup?

The travel "Island Green" they flogged as a replacement wasn't really up to it.

They are similar enough that if you enjoyed the old bottling this one matches pretty close.

pleasant Co.

Don’t suppose anyone has seen a bottle of the Irishman 17yr old in stock anywhere?

Captain_Crash

Was at Whiskey Live on Friday evening and had a great night. The stand outs for me were;

- Irish American 10yo
- Dead Rabbit, who had some nice under the counter stuff including a 27yo that will be on limited release next year (10 bottles only available at the distillery),
- Sliabh Laig was lovely stuff, they also had seaweed infused gin which was fantastic

But top of the bill for me was The Dalmore King Alexander, absolutely smashing. All in all a great evening despite the head on me on Saturday morning.

blind mans bluff

What do people think of ordering a bottle or two from masters of malt? Has anyone ever had any issues? Would you still have the same opinion if you were ordering 6 or 8 bottles? Meaning of course delivery direct to house, rather than parcel motel or the like.......

Wailin

Have used them for the last few months, just single bottles only, never a batch. Very good to deal with, great customer care and prices are good. An example is a bottle of midleton dair ghaelach I got for €200 delivery included. All deliveries by dhl and they text you prior to delivery to make sure someone's home.

mik_da_man

I've ordered a few times from them with no issues, usually multiple bottles. Not as many as 8 though!

FlicFlak

blind mans bluff wrote: »

What do people think of ordering a bottle or two from masters of malt? Has anyone ever had any issues? Would you still have the same opinion if you were ordering 6 or 8 bottles? Meaning of course delivery direct to house, rather than parcel motel or the like.......

I've done a few big orders off them, 6-10 bottles. Never had any issues, in fact one time i ordered on Tuesday and they were at the door by Thursday!! And on all occasions i got them before 9 o'clock in the morning, so no missed deliveries!

Kevk20

Just received my bottle of Glenfarclas 15 from masters of malt. Much to my delight, they also sent me a bottle of Redbreast Lustau edition. I neither ordered nor paid for the Redbreast. I re-checked the MOM website and they’re giving away £250k worth of whiskey for free as part of an Xmas promotion. So, an extra bottle of top Irish whiskey for zippo! 😀

Kevk20

So, moral of the story, order a bottle from them cos u might be in for an early Xmas present.

Mookie Blaylock

I won a bottle of Miyagikyo single malt from them the other day... awaiting delivery next week

gozunda

Bought a bottle of the 12 yr old Cask Strength Red Breast. Thinking of putting it away for a few years.

No doubt it will increase in value - but how likely is it to improve with age as well?

Rkcorry

Not sure it will mend once bottled.

Cazale

ButtersSuki wrote:

Aside from dedicated auction sites (I just don't want the hassle of them), can anyone suggest where I could sell these?

Maybe try the Irish whiskey buy, sell, seek, swap group on Facebook.

ButtersSuki

Cazale wrote: »

Maybe try the Irish whiskey buy, sell, seek, swap group on Facebook.

Cheers! Not on the auld FB, would you possibly have a link to that page? I'll use the boss's account - if she lets me.......

Cazale

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Cheers! Not on the auld FB, would you possibly have a link to that page? I'll use the boss's account - if she lets me.......

facebook.com/groups/472564593089415/?ref=group_header&view=group

ButtersSuki

Cazale wrote: »

facebook.com/groups/472564593089415/?ref=group_header&view=group

Thanks! Appreciate that!

Oafley Jones

gozunda wrote: »

but how likely is it to improve with age as well?

None. It’s whiskey not wine.

Wailin

gozunda wrote: »

No doubt it will increase in value - but how likely is it to improve with age as well?

Whiskey doesn't age once bottled. A 12 year old whiskey bottled 60 years ago is still a 12 year old whiskey. Just drink the thing!

Ivefoundgod

Got a bottle of Red Breast in Dunnes, had a voucher so brought it down to €47.50. They had a few other offers but nothing stood out as very good value, think Tesco have the best deals in the €25-50 price range at the minute. Did spot a nice Writers Tears glass set for €40 but have 3/4s of a bottle of that here as it is.

gozunda

Wailin wrote: »

Whiskey doesn't age once bottled. A 12 year old whiskey bottled 60 years ago is still a 12 year old whiskey. Just drink the thing!

As presumed. I've came across a couple of adverts that have suggested otherwise. Tbh scarcity is the principle thing pushing up value with regard to any specific bottled whiskey.

blind mans bluff

Thanks for the info all........... going to have a go, Maybe a conservative 4 bottles :-)
Thinking the Ardbeg Uigeadail, Woodford double oak, the Benromach cask strength and a refill of cask strength Redbreast.
I'll let it be known here how I get on.......

PS- Don't keep the CS Redbreast, open it...... you'll be back here to say thanks!

Wailin

gozunda wrote: »

As presumed. I've came across a couple of adverts that have suggested otherwise. Tbh scarcity is the principle thing pushing up value with regard to any specific bottled whiskey.

CS Redbreast is not scarce though. What batch did you get? 2017 batch is apparently savage and Jim Murray gave it Irish Whiskey of the year 2019 and a score of 97 Batch 2016 is not as good according to him and got 86.

blind mans bluff

Interesting, I haven't tried the 2016; what I have here is B1/17, and I can confirm its worthy of it. I am wondering if the 2016 really is that far off the mark? Eitherway, it appears that Masters of Malt have only B1/17 in stock. I assume there was no 2018 release?

Wailin

There is, i have the 18 and 17. Haven't opened the 18 yet.

Cazale

Wailin wrote:

CS Redbreast is not scarce though. What batch did you get? 2017 batch is apparently savage and Jim Murray gave it Irish Whiskey of the year 2019 and a score of 97 Batch 2016 is not as good according to him and got 86.

Irish pot still on steroids he described the 2011 batch. I'm gonna have to get myself a bottle.

Wailin

Im guessing any batch of cask strength red breast would be a top class whiskey to us mere mortals! Murray has a thing about sulphur in sherried whiskies and i think that was his issue with the 2016 batch. Most folk probably wouldn't even detect it.

Mellor

gozunda wrote: »

As presumed. I've came across a couple of adverts that have suggested otherwise. Tbh scarcity is the principle thing pushing up value with regard to any specific bottled whiskey.

They would increase in value. As that particular batch/vintage comes rare. But the increased value is zero reflection on how the whiskey has improved.
If you've any intention of drinking it. Just open it over Christmas.

Wailin

Mellor wrote: »

They would increase in value. As that particular batch/vintage comes rare. But the increased value is zero reflection on how the whiskey has improved.
If you've any intention of drinking it. Just open it over Christmas.

It doesn't improve.

Whiskey Eire

So has anyone cracked open a bottle of Red Spot yet?

Wailin

Just tasted it at whiskey live myself and thought it was nice but I'd prefer green spot.

gozunda

Wailin wrote: »

CS Redbreast is not scarce though. What batch did you get? 2017 batch is apparently savage and Jim Murray gave it Irish Whiskey of the year 2019 and a score of 97 Batch 2016 is not as good according to him and got 86.

Batch B1/18 funnily enough ...

irlirishkev

Whiskey Eire wrote:

So has anyone cracked open a bottle of Red Spot yet?

My local gave me a (generous) taster earlier.
Very nice I have to say. Nicer than yellow for my tastes.. Better than green? Hard to say.

EagererBeaver

Got a bottle of Lagavullin 16 that was a third off on Amazon.

Wailin

Have you compared it to Ardbeg 10?

EagererBeaver

Wailin wrote: »

Have you compared it to Ardbeg 10?

Ah I've had it before. It's a lot more mellow than the Ardbeg. Still plenty of fire in it.

Wailin

Yeah I prefer the lag myself also but the ardbeg is very nice too...totally different whiskies, even if the peat smoke is the dominant force in both. Did the Ardbeg masterclass at whisky live and ardbeg uigeadail is an outstanding whiskey. Picked up a bottle awhile back.

L1011

I've a bottle of that bought in some cheap country airport (not duty free). Personally find Ardbeg too smokey for most drinking times so the Lagavulin comes out on top there.

Seem to remember it's very competitively priced for a 16

Wailin

You might like Talisker 10....less smoky than lagavulin or ardbeg and sherry finished too like lag so rich tasting.

Mookie Blaylock

I think the Barry Crockett is the nicest pot still I've ever tasted...

the beer revolu

Mookie Blaylock wrote: »

I think the Barry Crockett is the nicest pot still I've ever tasted...

Am I the only person to think that this is the most overrated and overpriced whiskey around?
It's not unpleasant or anything but I find it very uninteresting and not very complex. I just don't get the love for it. Smooth, yes, but not much else going on for me.

Anyone else?

On the other hand, I love the Dair Ghaelach.

Wailin

It's nice alright but I'd prefer Redbreast 21 or the 12 yo cask strength which are both much better value.