What Whisky/Whiskey are we drinking this month?

Mellor

odyssey06 wrote: »

I read that and was surprised it hasn't been in place for decades especially when you consider Pernod-Ricard's involvement ... was someone asleep at the wheel on it? Curious it's only happening now.

The 2014 spec for Pot still (and other whiskey) that be spoke about in here last week was part of that process I believe. It probably takes a few years to go through all the red tape.

partyguinness wrote: »

Living abroad Ireland is defo missing a trick in promoting and marketing whiskey compared to Scotch.

It's not a marketing and promotion issue. It's stems from actions 200 years ago. Irish Whiskey dominated the spirit market globally in 1800. which is insane for a tiny green spec in the corner of europe.

Chong

Picked up some Powers Johns Lane Release last night its a beautiful dram, really like it is such a nice spicy whiskey. I first had it back in October of last year, at the time I wasn't a fan, but my taste buds have since changed have drank a lot of whiskey since then and having attended Whiskey Live ( this gave me a chance to try some stuff I never had before).

On the Irish whiskey market over the coming years would any one fear the market maybe become saturated with sub standard whiskey? The flipside obviously is a rising tide raises all ships but I find unlike Scotland we dont really have designated styles, Highland, Speyside, Islay, Lowlands. Alot of Irish whiskey can tend to be similar and if everyone is doing very similar whiskey surely there is no diversity. When I say similar, alot of Irish whiskey will rely on it's type of casks used at the start or finished in.

Any thoughts?

the beer revolu

Chong wrote: »

On the Irish whiskey market over the coming years would any one fear the market maybe become saturated with sub standard whiskey? The flipside obviously is a rising tide raises all ships but I find unlike Scotland we dont really have designated styles, Highland, Speyside, Islay, Lowlands. Alot of Irish whiskey can tend to be similar and if everyone is doing very similar whiskey surely there is no diversity. When I say similar, alot of Irish whiskey will rely on it's type of casks used at the start or finished in.

Any thoughts?

I think we're going to see a whole lot of innovation in the industry in the coming years.
Some good innovation and some silly stuff, no doubt.

Whiskey Eire

Chong wrote: »

Picked up some Powers Johns Lane Release last night its a beautiful dram, really like it is such a nice spicy whiskey. I first had it back in October of last year, at the time I wasn't a fan, but my taste buds have since changed have drank a lot of whiskey since then and having attended Whiskey Live ( this gave me a chance to try some stuff I never had before).

On the Irish whiskey market over the coming years would any one fear the market maybe become saturated with sub standard whiskey? The flipside obviously is a rising tide raises all ships but I find unlike Scotland we dont really have designated styles, Highland, Speyside, Islay, Lowlands. Alot of Irish whiskey can tend to be similar and if everyone is doing very similar whiskey surely there is no diversity. When I say similar, alot of Irish whiskey will rely on it's type of casks used at the start or finished in.

Any thoughts?

I think there will be a lot of generic Irish whiskey (lots of cooley stock floating around) but as usual with these things cream rises to the top eventually. I'd love to see some of the new smaller distilleries just perfect one style and stick to it to begin with. Seems to be a lot of branding first and worry about the distillate later at the minute.

Powers Johns Lane is a beautiful whiskey, it took years i'd imagine to get it to the standard it is and trial/error. I think for a lot of new distilleries it will be a few years before we see their true identity come out. It's exciting watching the evolution of places over the years.

picachu

opened a bottle of Caskmates Stout edition I bought last year. Either my tastes are changing or the quality isn't the same as it used to be. Its very similar to the regular Jameson. I don't think it has the smoothness it once had

I wouldn't be buying anymore (have two litres at home to get through)

Cazale

Visited the Dylan Whiskey Bar last night in Kilkenny. Had some very nice whiskeys including -

Powers 15 year old Kilkenny whiskey Guild
Red Breast 12 Cask strength
Red spot
Bowmore 15
Nikka All Malt
Writers tears cask strength

The powers was my favourite of the lot. Only 192 bottles produced. Still prefer the green spot over the red especially when it's only half the price.

Whiskey Eire

Cazale wrote: »

Visited the Dylan Whiskey Bar last night in Kilkenny. Had some very nice whiskeys including -

Powers 15 year old Kilkenny whiskey Guild
Red Breast 12 Cask strength
Red spot
Bowmore 15
Nikka All Malt
Writers tears cask strength

The powers was my favourite of the lot. Only 192 bottles produced. Still prefer the green spot over the red especially when it's only half the price.

How much were they charging for the powers? I know a bottle of it will set you back 275 to buy.

Cazale

Whiskey Eire wrote:

How much were they charging for the powers? I know a bottle of it will set you back 275 to buy.

It was 18 euro which I thought was reasonable enough considering the price of the bottle.

Bassfish

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

VW 1

Bassfish wrote: »

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

Writers tears, should get it at that price.

odyssey06

Bassfish wrote: »

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

Roe and Co 35e in Tesco at the mo.
You should be able to pickup Jameson Crested or Bushmills Black Bush for less than that.

Whiskey Eire

Cazale wrote: »

It was 18 euro which I thought was reasonable enough considering the price of the bottle.

Yeah for sure. I heard the cask itself to buy was around 30000 so not surprised the bottles are so expensive. Glad you enjoyed it, i'll be trying it myself when in Kk next time around.

Dylans is a nice pub for a drop.

Cazale

Bassfish wrote:

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

Jameson Crested or Teelings small batch.

Whiskey Eire

Bassfish wrote: »

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

Crested Ten. Good bit of pot still in it if you are into that.

Erik Shun

Off to Edinburgh next week, any suggestions besides the scotch whisky experience?

Hogzy

Erik Shun wrote: »

Off to Edinburgh next week, any suggestions besides the scotch whisky experience?

If you like chicken wings go to a place called "wings" between high st and cowgate, its also just around the corner from the Brewdog Bar.

intellectual dosser

Erik Shun wrote: »

Off to Edinburgh next week, any suggestions besides the scotch whisky experience?

Others on the forum may have some hidden gems, but I simply enjoyed walking the Royal Mile stopping by each whisky shop on the way, some breathtaking selections.

irish_goat

Erik Shun wrote: »

Off to Edinburgh next week, any suggestions besides the scotch whisky experience?

Not whisky related but if you are interested in rum at all the Blue Blazer has a big selection (70+, if I recall correctly).

pleasant Co.

Bassfish wrote: »

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

Irishman Founders Reserve is about that price.

vasch_ro

Mate of mine is heading to Japan soon, going to get him to pick up a bottle of Whiskey for me , is there anything I can ask him to get at a reasonable price around 60 -70 mark or do I need to over the ton ?

beardybrewer

Erik Shun wrote: »

Off to Edinburgh next week, any suggestions besides the scotch whisky experience?

Go across the street and check out Camera Obscura. However you might wish to consider in which order you visit.

Erik Shun

beardybrewer wrote: »

Go across the street and check out Camera Obscura. However you might wish to consider in which order you visit.

Haha, yes indeed, that is on the list..I believe it's quite like the atomium in Brussels... might be better to see before a few drams right enough

facehugger99

Wife is heading to NY next week, does anyone know if JFK duty free has a decent selection and if they’re good value?

Or can you buy in Dublin on the way back in?

odyssey06

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wife is heading to NY next week, does anyone know if JFK duty free has a decent selection and if they’re good value?

Or can you buy in Dublin on the way back in?

Alas not really and no. You defo cant buy Dublin for way back only outbound. Check out Monkey Shoulder in NY.

Mellor

vasch_ro wrote: »

Mate of mine is heading to Japan soon, going to get him to pick up a bottle of Whiskey for me , is there anything I can ask him to get at a reasonable price around 60 -70 mark or do I need to over the ton ?

There's definitely good japanese whiskey in the 60-70 range. But I'm not sure if it actually cheaper in japan at this point. Japan is expensive generally, and the whiskey crisis has caused a lot of prices to sky rocket there.
Certainly shopping centre, airport prices will be expensive. But maybe he'd pick up something a Celtic Nippon Whiskey shop type place.

Nikka from the Barrel is €32 in Dublin Airport. Great drop for that price. (Only 50cl mind).
Nikka Coffey Malt or Coffey Grain are €55. Another great whiskey, and discontinued so will become rare for the next few years.

USe those prices as a guide for what's availible over there

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wife is heading to NY next week, does anyone know if JFK duty free has a decent selection and if they’re good value?

Or can you buy in Dublin on the way back in?

No Duty free in Dublin arrivals anymore.

Seth Brundle

picachu wrote: »

opened a bottle of Caskmates Stout edition I bought last year. Either my tastes are changing or the quality isn't the same as it used to be. Its very similar to the regular Jameson. I don't think it has the smoothness it once had

I wouldn't be buying anymore (have two litres at home to get through)

I tried this before but each time I drank some, I found that whilst it was better than the IPA version, I didn't really like it.

Bassfish wrote: »

What would people recommend buying on a budget of about €35? I'm a fan of caskmates and black barrel. Open to suggestions beyond that. Fancy trying something new but money is tight!!

For me, Black Barrell or else Crested 10

odyssey06 wrote: »

Alas not really and no. You defo cant buy Dublin for way back only outbound. Check out Monkey Shoulder in NY.

You can buy when heading out and collect from the small shop at arrivals on your return - I did this a few months ago when getting Red Spot.

sceach16

You can buy when heading out and collect from the small shop at arrivals on your return - I did this a few months ago when getting Red Spot.[/QUOTE]


AFAIK this only applies to EU flights (they are not duty free prices). They do not sell at duty free prices if the bottles are staying in Ireland.

Hogzy

sceach16 wrote: »

You can buy when heading out and collect from the small shop at arrivals on your return - I did this a few months ago when getting Red Spot.


AFAIK this only applies to EU flights (they are not duty free prices). They do not sell at duty free prices if the bottles are staying in Ireland.

I think you need an EU boarding pass aswell in order to avail of that.

Bassfish

Seth Brundle wrote: »

For me, Black Barrell or else Crested 10

If I could find Black Barrel for under €35 outside of a duty free I'd buy a year's supply

facehugger99

Bassfish wrote: »

If I could find Black Barrel for under €35 outside of a duty free I'd buy a year's supply

Well, Centra currently have it for €38

https://centra.ie/offers?category_id=512

EagererBeaver

facehugger99 wrote: »

Wife is heading to NY next week, does anyone know if JFK duty free has a decent selection and if they’re good value?

Or can you buy in Dublin on the way back in?

She'll have a large check in bag as flying transatlantic. Buy it on way out duty free, stick in the hold on way back.

Seth Brundle

facehugger99 wrote: »

Well, Centra currently have it for €38

https://centra.ie/offers?category_id=512

...as do SuperValu (same parent company)
https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/wine-beer-spirits-irish-whiskey-jameson-black-barrel-70-centiliter-/p-1263569000

Quackster

sceach16 wrote: »

You can buy when heading out and collect from the small shop at arrivals on your return - I did this a few months ago when getting Red Spot.

AFAIK this only applies to EU flights (they are not duty free prices). They do not sell at duty free prices if the bottles are staying in Ireland.

Even more specificity, it only applies to flights within the EU VAT area (so you can't do this when flying to the Canaries).

General rule of thumb, if you're charged the duty-free price on the way out, you have to take it with you.

The Nal

Bottle of Slane on sale in OBriens for 30 quid. Never had it before. Looking forward to a drop later.

facehugger99

EagererBeaver wrote: »

She'll have a large check in bag as flying transatlantic. Buy it on way out duty free, stick in the hold on way back.

Sounds like a plan.

brinty

The Nal wrote:

Bottle of Slane on sale in OBriens for 30 quid. Never had it before. Looking forward to a drop later.

Was in California in March
Slane was $21
Couldn't believe it

Cazale

The Nal wrote:

Bottle of Slane on sale in OBriens for 30 quid. Never had it before. Looking forward to a drop later.

Owned by the same drinks group that owns Jack Daniels and Woodford Reserve.

partyguinness

EagererBeaver wrote: »

She'll have a large check in bag as flying transatlantic. Buy it on way out duty free, stick in the hold on way back.

Hold on. Apologies if I am reading this wrong.

Surely if you are buying it in Dublin on the way out you won't be able to get back through security in NY (more than 100ml) on the way back and you would have to check in with your luggage? I would thought Dublin has a facility to collect when you arrive back.

brinty

Cazale wrote:

Owned by the same drinks group that owns Jack Daniels and Woodford Reserve.

Yep they wanted an Irish one on their portfolio and that's where slane came in
They've some scotch as well

EagererBeaver

partyguinness wrote: »

EagererBeaver wrote: »

She'll have a large check in bag as flying transatlantic. Buy it on way out duty free, stick in the hold on way back.

Hold on. Apologies if I am reading this wrong.

Surely if you are buying it in Dublin on the way out you won't be able to get back through security in NY (more than 100ml) on the way back and you would have to check in with your luggage? I would thought Dublin has a facility to collect when you arrive back.

Apology accepted.

Quackster

partyguinness wrote: »

Hold on. Apologies if I am reading this wrong.

Surely if you are buying it in Dublin on the way out you won't be able to get back through security in NY (more than 100ml) on the way back and you would have to check in with your luggage? I would thought Dublin has a facility to collect when you arrive back.

To repeat what was said a few posts back, you can only collect on the way back if your destination is within the EU VAT area. If you buy duty free at Dublin Airport, you have to bring it with you.

Bringing it back in your hold luggage is perfectly fine (assuming it doesn't get smashed!) but be warned it will then count towards your inbound allowance. And if you're stopped at Dublin Airport on your return and found to be over allowance, it will be confiscated!

Rows Grower

brinty wrote: »

Was in California in March
Slane was $21
Couldn't believe it

Jameson was 12.40 euro in Slovakia last month.

We are being rode to death here.

gozunda

Rows Grower wrote: »

Jameson was 12.40 euro in Slovakia last month.

We are being rode to death here.

Lowest price here is €20 in Tesco on offer atm.

https://m.tesco.ie/mt/www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256409920

The Nal

Cazale wrote: »

Owned by the same drinks group that owns Jack Daniels and Woodford Reserve.

Ah didn't know that.

Woodford Reserve is nice.

purple hands

Powers Gold Label. Yay or nay @20 quid? (in tesco also)

Rows Grower

gozunda wrote: »

Lowest price here is €20 in Tesco on offer. Offer on atm.

https://m.tesco.ie/mt/www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=256409920

Funnily enough it was a Tesco in Bratislava I bought it for 12.40, got packs of
cigarettes in the same shop for a friend. 200 Marlboro lights for 38 euro.

odyssey06

purple hands wrote: »

Powers Gold Label. Yay or nay @20 quid? (in tesco also)

Yay if you are going to drink it neat or with a drop of water.
Nay if you are looking for a mixing whiskey - go with the €20 Jameson instead.
For on the rocks Tullamore Dew is €23.

run_Forrest_run

purple hands wrote: »

Powers Gold Label. Yay or nay @20 quid? (in tesco also)

absolutely yah for the same reasons given by odyssey06 (drop of water or neat)

Rows Grower

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

absolutely yah for the same reasons given by odyssey06

The cheek of the pair of ye to rate Powers over Jameson.

Ye blasphemers.

odyssey06

Rows Grower wrote: »

The cheek of the pair of ye to rate Powers over Jameson. Ye blasphemers.

Hey, don't ex-communicate me yet - if Tesco have the Jameson Crested on offer for €25 then that'd trump both
If someone hasn't tried Powers and it's on offer at same price as Jameson then it's defo worth checking out given its high pot still content (versus more grain in Jameson) and typical age profile (5-7 year old whiskey versus 3-5 year old for Jameson).