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No answer to my question. Yet another unsubstantiated claim?
I see GRPAI have reposted their NGB claim. Although the wording has changed fromthem being the NGB for gallery rifle & pistol to an NGB for same
Have the international body made a ruling? 0 -
Rimfire Shooter wrote: »No answer to my question. Yet another unsubstantiated claim?
I see GRPAI have reposted their NGB claim. Although the wording has changed fromthem being the NGB for gallery rifle & pistol to an NGB for same Have the international body made a ruling?
Unsubstantiated claim? Don't see how that is?
No, the IGRF have not made a ruling, yet.0 -
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targetx, I had a quick look at the NASRPC web site & there is an "old" post from when this spat started about GRPAIs NGB claim so you seem to be right in your claim.
However, they are the de facto NGB currently recognised by the international body so I wonder why they would agree to take down their claim? (not expecting you to answer that)
As far as I can see GRPAI have made a challenge to their NGB status with the international body. For me unless NASRPC surrender or the international body remove their NGB status the GRPAIs claim is just that, a claim. Maybe ye can come to an agreement like the one FG & FF have done
TBH, I've kept up to date with this as best I can as an "outsider" and it looks like a simple old fashioned Irish split
On that note I reckon the best thing to do is to leave the protagonists fight it out & see who "wins" & then back them
Which logo will the gallery teams be wearing at the international shoot in July?0 -
Rimfire Shooter wrote: »However, they are the de facto NGB currently recognised by the international body
"de facto NGB" is a good description because their historic claim to be the NGB is without foundation, which is part of our argument.Rimfire Shooter wrote: »TBH, I've kept up to date with this as best I can as an "outsider" and it looks like a simple old fashioned Irish split
I agree about a "split" but unfortunately it is the NASRPC who are creating a split within the Gallery Rifle squad with their recent threats and bullying of squad members. The GRPAI on the other hand have offered to work with the NASRPC as a separate discipline focused NGB without the need for a split, just like the NRBAI are a separate NGB but work with the NASRPC.0 -
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Another question I forgot to answer. I speak for myself when u say that I know which logo I will not be wearing. I will not be wearing a logo which represents any organisation that threatens and bullies. I will at least be wearing an Irish flag. There is an International shoot before July.
Thank you for answering my question as it pertains to you. An interesting answer to say the least which sums up the problem I reckon. You refuse to wear the NASRPC logo yet you tell us that they caused the split. You have consistently claimed NASRPC caused the split. When you & others set up the GRPAI in direct competition to them, on certain matters at least, surely ye caused the split. As the the ultimatum from NASRPC I've said it on this thread already a slave cannot have two masters.
For me people will one way or the other have to make their decision and get on with it. No sport can/will prosper or collapse because a few who maybe think they can't be done without have thrown their toys out of the pram. This matter realistically affects very few but they are courting support from others which is where the damage is being really done.
It could come down to how badly does someone want to shoot in the International team. I'm sure at this stage if GRPAI get the NGB status that some will then refuse to shoot on their International team.
The Irish are & always have been their own worst enemies 0 -
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Rimfire Shooter wrote: »Another question I forgot to answer. I speak for myself when u say that I know which logo I will not be wearing. I will not be wearing a logo which represents any organisation that threatens and bullies. I will at least be wearing an Irish flag. There is an International shoot before July.
Thank you for answering my question as it pertains to you. An interesting answer to say the least which sums up the problem I reckon. You refuse to wear the NASRPC logo yet you tell us that they caused the split. You have consistently claimed NASRPC caused the split. When you & others set up the GRPAI in direct competition to them, on certain matters at least, surely ye caused the split. As the the ultimatum from NASRPC I've said it on this thread already a slave cannot have two masters.
For me people will one way or the other have to make their decision and get on with it. No sport can/will prosper or collapse because a few who maybe think they can't be done without have thrown their toys out of the pram. This matter realistically affects very few but they are courting support from others which is where the damage is being really done.
It could come down to how badly does someone want to shoot in the International team. I'm sure at this stage if GRPAI get the NGB status that some will then refuse to shoot on their International team.
The Irish are & always have been their own worst enemies
I sat in from of the Nasrpc chairman and asked for the threat to be withdrawn. It has not been withdrawn. We still hope that it might be.
I offered to co-operate with the Nasrpc in several ways to move forward in the interests of the sport. That was not accepted.
I do not believe that threats and intimidation will solve a problem and I will not give in to that type of behaviour.
You use the words "slave" and "master". That sums up the Nasrpc's desire for control. They are not my master and I am not their slave.0 -
I do understand your position & have even been in it myself a few times.
Unfortunately these things do get messy & if GRPAI thought it was going to be a bloodless coup I reckon reality has now dawned on them.
NASRPCs demand does give people a choice. You either accept them as NGB and get to shoot on International team or you refuse to accept them & you then can't. This does not affect the majority of gallery shooters in reality unless they are on the squad or hope to be on it in the future.
I can see the logic behind the GRPAI & would agree with it in principle. The mistake for me was the way it has been done and it's apparent lack of being set up democratically & publically before it "had to be".
I'm going to be a gallery rifle shooter soon & intend on making the international squad & hope this is sorted out soon 0 -
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