Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

Ken Shamrock

gosplan wrote: »

Sorry, it just seems that you're in an unhappy relationship.

Like if you finish 3rd, then 2nd in the league, win a couple of cups in recent years, and then in the off season when the window is open and everyone's on zero points be so devoid of any hope in the future that you go on the attack against anyone that expresses some, I just don't think you're getting much from supporting Arsenal.

I'm not devoid of hope for our season I believe you're confused, we're talking about the transfer window and buying players...

Show me where i've attacked anyone please? Making ridiculous ****ing statements. I'm getting a lot but thanks for your concern :rolleyes:

greendom

So many miserable posters on here.

There's no doubt in my mind we will be buying a decent striker and I'm still optimistic about the new season.

Call me naive or masochistic but I just couldn't support the team in a constant state of misery.

That's not to say home defeats to Swansea or losing RVP to United doesn't get me down, it does. I just learn to look forward to the next game/signing/player to break through.

Wallowing in depression just doesn't work for me.

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

Battered Wife syndrome


Sounds familiar.

This thread cracks me up sometimes,

Quazzie

Soups123 wrote: »

This thread cracks me up sometimes,

Skylinehead

What a stupid, brainless interview. Comparing us to Leicester? Last thing we need right now.

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

What a stupid, brainless interview. Comparing us to Leicester? Last thing we need right now.

Yeah man. I have absolutely no interest in how or why the current Premier League Champions did so well. Just spend some money already!!

Ken Shamrock

greendom wrote: »

So many miserable posters on here.

There's no doubt in my mind we will be buying a decent striker and I'm still optimistic about the new season.

Call me naive or masochistic but I just couldn't support the team in a constant state of misery.

That's not to say home defeats to Swansea or losing RVP to United doesn't get me down, it does. I just learn to look forward to the next game/signing/player to break through.

Wallowing in depression just doesn't work for me.

If you're referring to me you really have the wrong idea. I look forward to and watch every game mate, i'm not wallowing in depression I'm just realistic when it comes to transfers etc and use recent history to predict what will happen next as opposed to pretending what i want to happen will happen you get me?

gosplan

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

If you're referring to me you really have the wrong idea. I look forward to and watch every game mate, i'm not wallowing in depression I'm just realistic when it comes to transfers etc and use recent history to predict what will happen next as opposed to pretending what i want to happen will happen you get me?

Believe Ken. believe !!!

Ken Shamrock

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

If you're referring to me you really have the wrong idea. I look forward to and watch every game mate, i'm not wallowing in depression I'm just realistic when it comes to transfers etc and use recent history to predict what will happen next as opposed to pretending what i want to happen will happen you get me?

We have signed 3 world class players in the last 3 summer transfer windows. Recent history says that we will do so again this summer.

Edit....

I'm referring to Ozil, Sanchez and Cech

Ken Shamrock

Basil3 wrote: »

We have signed 3 world class players in the last 3 summer transfer windows. Recent history says that we will do so again this summer.

Edit....

I'm referring to Ozil, Sanchez and Cech

We've already done that with Xhaka so now we will spend 10 Mill on youth players and ignore the positions we need to strengthen.

or

We will sign a world class striker centre halve and winger.

Which one sounds more realistic?

Ken Shamrock

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

We've already done that with Xhaka so now we will spend 10 Mill on youth players and ignore the positions we need to strengthen.

or

We will sign a world class striker centre halve and winger.

Which one sounds more realistic?

He's not World Class. Potential to be.

greendom

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

If you're referring to me you really have the wrong idea. I look forward to and watch every game mate, i'm not wallowing in depression I'm just realistic when it comes to transfers etc and use recent history to predict what will happen next as opposed to pretending what i want to happen will happen you get me?

Not just you!

This transfer window is not the same as the last one though. We've spent 35 million on a defensive midfielder. That's never happened before - not even close.

There is little doubt either that we are after a striker. Vardy chose to stay with Leicester, his choice and not much we can do about that but keep looking and enquiring

He hasn't gone to the French lower leagues in search of potential talent either. That was often a (pretty pathetic) complaint levelled at Wenger.
He's gone for a tough ball playing English centre back.

It is frustrating as the season draws closer and the big money forward hasn't arrived but it will happen.

Ken Shamrock

greendom wrote: »

Not just you!

This transfer window is not the same as the last one though. We've spent 35 million on a defensive midfielder. That's never happened before - not even close.

There is little doubt either that we are after a striker. Vardy chose to stay with Leicester, his choice and not much we can do about that but keep looking and enquiring

He hasn't gone to the French lower leagues in search of potential talent either. That was often a (pretty pathetic) complaint levelled at Wenger.
He's gone for a tough ball playing English centre back.

It is frustrating as the season draws closer and the big money forward hasn't arrived but it will happen.

Alright mate, keep dreaming and if your dreams do come true I will be delighted.

emergingstar

The enjoyment and hope is still there for me

Even if we don't sign anyone else there will still be that little hope tha supporting a club brings

And if we things turn out the same I will be a little pîssed off but that will change quickly enough

Football is a pass time away from the real world, I never get too stressed or wound up about it, enough of that in everyday life

Soups123

I got tickets for us V Burnley and us V West Ham for my youngest first games next season so I'll be looking forward regardless

Thankfully he is of an age where all this transfer **** means nothing and the players we have are his ideals about 7 of them make his dream team of world stars

I miss the innocence and basic enjoyment

domrush

David Dein is the biggest loss the club has felt in the past 10 years. Bigger than Henry, Bergkamp, RVP etc etc

L'prof

greendom wrote: »

Not just you!

This transfer window is not the same as the last one though. We've spent 35 million on a defensive midfielder. That's never happened before - not even close.

There is little doubt either that we are after a striker. Vardy chose to stay with Leicester, his choice and not much we can do about that but keep looking and enquiring

He hasn't gone to the French lower leagues in search of potential talent either. That was often a (pretty pathetic) complaint levelled at Wenger.
He's gone for a tough ball playing English centre back.

It is frustrating as the season draws closer and the big money forward hasn't arrived but it will happen.

This. I'm waiting and still hopeful that they'll sign a striker of real quality. It is frustrating that the there are still obvious holes in the squad and Gazidas' interview doesn't help in any way, shape or form! I do think that additions will be made on top of already strengthening through the signing of Xhaka. It wasn't a key position but I do feel it was a very good buy

I still don't think they're able to compete financially with the biggest clubs in the world, but they are making great strides on that front and are much closer on that front than when they 1st moved to the Emirates. I think the only way to break that stranglehold is through silverware and the hidden financial benefits that winning titles clearly brings

wawaman

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160722/arsenal-agree-deal-to-sign-rob-holding

and they say we dont sign anyone!!

greendom

greendom wrote: »

Not just you!

This transfer window is not the same as the last one though. We've spent 35 million on a defensive midfielder. That's never happened before - not even close.

There is little doubt either that we are after a striker. Vardy chose to stay with Leicester, his choice and not much we can do about that but keep looking and enquiring

Happy enough with Xhaka, though a change of tactics is what's needed in midfield.

He hasn't gone to the French lower leagues in search of potential talent either. That was often a (pretty pathetic) complaint levelled at Wenger.

What was pathetic about it? Sanogo?

He's gone for a tough ball playing English centre back.

Seen a lot of Holding have you? :pac: He's had 27 senior appearances and is nearly 21. (EDIT: Didn't count cup games, so it's probably a tad more than 27.)

It is frustrating as the season draws closer and the big money forward hasn't arrived but it will happen.

How many times have you said that over the years?

emergingstar

wawaman wrote: »

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160722/arsenal-agree-deal-to-sign-rob-holding

and they say we dont sign anyone!!

Wonder the statement "we are in
The market stay close to Arsenal.com further transfer news" means anything

emergingstar

Interesting

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

Wonder the statement "we are in
The market stay close to Arsenal.com further transfer news" means anything

I'm guessing it means what it says. You think there's some hidden message?

keano_afc

emergingstar wrote: »

Interesting

Disappointed the rest of the quote is not there. Its usually followed by "if we do anything you will be the first to know".

emergingstar

Basil3 wrote: »

I'm guessing it means what it says. You think there's some hidden message?

Yep I think that line was purposely put there

greendom

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Happy enough with Xhaka, though a change of tactics is what's needed in midfield.


What was pathetic about it? Sanogo?


Seen a lot of Holding have you? :pac: He's had 27 senior appearances and is nearly 21. (EDIT: Didn't count cup games, so it's probably a tad more than 27.)


How many times have you said that over the years?

Hope springs eternal!

wawaman

emergingstar wrote: »

Yep I think that line was purposely put there

I reckon they knew the fans were going apes*it with Gazidis quotes and used that line as a bone to try and appease

emergingstar

wawaman wrote: »

I reckon they knew the fans were going apes*it with Gazidis quotes and used that line as a bone to try and appease

Quiet possibly

I bet we break our transfer fee record this summer

Pudders

I think they are referring to Chapel Market by Angel tube station.

L'prof

emergingstar wrote: »

Quiet possibly

I bet we break our transfer fee record this summer

We'd all be delighted if they did. Another £58.6m+ to go!

Roaster

emergingstar wrote: »

Interesting

Carlsberg don't do trolling but if they did...

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

So many miserable posters on here.

There's no doubt in my mind we will be buying a decent striker and I'm still optimistic about the new season.

Call me naive or masochistic but I just couldn't support the team in a constant state of misery.

That's not to say home defeats to Swansea or losing RVP to United doesn't get me down, it does. I just learn to look forward to the next game/signing/player to break through.

Wallowing in depression just doesn't work for me.

I never wallow in depression. I love every day.
I am never badly disappointed that we don't sign the quality striker or defender we need because i don't expect and know we won't do so. When we do sign a world-class player like Xhaka or Ozil i am ecstatic and terribly surprised. I never believe the rumours or the paper-talk. Paper never refuses ink.

What does anger me slightly is knowing we have loads of money and then hear Wenger saying in t.v. interviews that we need 3 players and then not buying anyone of note. I am also a bit fed up of buying young prospects when everyone and his dog knows that we won't buy the real deal i.e. a 20 goal a season striker. We need a world-class striker and a world-class CB in my opinion but we will buy "prospects" for the future even though we are loaded with money. Those prospects might be great in time but we need ready-made quality now if we are to win the EPL or challenger seriously for Europe.

The club has gone stale it seems but i'm not depressed. Never. And I'll still be a Gooner long after Wenger, Kronke etc have left with the millions or billions.

domrush

Who's going to be CB for the Pool game? Mert and Gab? Against Sturridge, Mane, Firminho, Countinho

Ken Shamrock

tayto lover wrote: »

I never wallow in depression. I love every day.
I am never badly disappointed that we don't sign the quality striker or defender we need because i don't expect and know we won't do so. When we do sign a world-class player like Xhaka or Ozil i am ecstatic and terribly surprised. I never believe the rumours or the paper-talk. Paper never refuses ink.

What does anger me slightly is knowing we have loads of money and then hear Wenger saying in t.v. interviews that we need 3 players and then not buying anyone of note. I am also a bit fed up of buying young prospects when everyone and his dog knows that we won't buy the real deal i.e. a 20 goal a season striker. We need a world-class striker and a world-class CB in my opinion but we will buy "prospects" for the future even though we are loaded with money. Those prospects might be great in time but we need ready-made quality now if we are to win the EPL or challenger seriously for Europe.

The club has gone stale it seems but i'm not depressed. Never. And I'll still be a Gooner long after Wenger, Kronke etc have left with the millions or billions.

Yeah but you post mean things about the club and aren't happy if we lose and/or fail to sign the players we need so none of that matters. You're a depressed lunatic and you should leave for good.

tayto lover

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Yeah but you post mean things about the club and aren't happy if we lose and/or fail to sign the players we need so none of that matters. You're a depressed lunatic and you should leave for good.

:):D

domrush

domrush wrote: »

Who's going to be CB for the Pool game? Mert and Gab? Against Sturridge, Mane, Firminho, Countinho

Their lethal 10-goal-a-year strikeforce.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Basil3 wrote: »

Their lethal 10-goal-a-year strikeforce.

Hardly fair?

We're really up against it on the opening day.

Ken Shamrock

Basil3 wrote: »

Their lethal 10-goal-a-year strikeforce.

They managed to put 3 past us last year, it's a fairly valid concern that Dom has don't you think?

Ken Shamrock

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

They managed to put 3 past us last year, it's a fairly valid concern that Dom has don't you think?

I don't think so, personally. Mert and Gab are capable enough. We should have a solid defensive platform in front of them as well.

They couldn't put any against us with Gab and Chambers at the back, and the 3 we conceded was with Kos playing...

greendom

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Happy enough with Xhaka, though a change of tactics is what's needed in midfield.


What was pathetic about it? Sanogo?


Seen a lot of Holding have you? :pac: He's had 27 senior appearances and is nearly 21. (EDIT: Didn't count cup games, so it's probably a tad more than 27.)


How many times have you said that over the years?

As to Holding. I've seen the impressive clips on You tube, the unhappiness of Bolton fans that he's leaving and some very positive quotes by Neil Lennon. He's also made the England U21 squad.

Neil Lennon. :pac:

Ken Shamrock

Basil3 wrote: »

I don't think so, personally. Mert and Gab are capable enough. We should have a solid defensive platform in front of them as well.

They couldn't put any against us with Gab and Chambers at the back, and the 3 we conceded was with Kos playing...

Was Sturridge and/or Mane playing last year? They will be a threat and without Kos we will be defensively weaker, without another strong CB for the season we will be in trouble.

domrush

Countinho was injured as well while Firminho got two. Regardless its a tough opening fixture and I don't know where our goals are going to come from.

domrush

domrush wrote: »

Countinho was injured as well while Firminho got two. Regardless its a tough opening fixture and I don't know where our goals are going to come from.

Yeah, my worry is at the other end of the pitch

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

Yeah, my worry is at the other end of the pitch

Have we a few injured defenders?

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Have we a few injured defenders?

No, I'm agreeing with him, and referring to our lack of attacking options.

Bobby Baccala

Not sure if it's been posted yet but Holding gets Ramseys old number and Ramsey is getting Artetas number 8.

Ken Shamrock

I like Ramsey and really want him to find top form again and have a great season but I feel like he's being massively overrated in here lately, especially after the Euro's. There is a big difference between club football and international football, including quality of opposition and style of play of your team.

We have 3 slots Ozil automatically takes the CAM role, who takes the 2 sitting/box-box roles?

Skylinehead

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

I like Ramsey and really want him to find top form again and have a great season but I feel like he's being massively overrated in here lately, especially after the Euro's. There is a big difference between club football and international football, including quality of opposition and style of play of your team.

We have 3 slots Ozil automatically takes the CAM role, who takes the 2 sitting/box-box roles?

Xhaka and Ramsey probably, long term. Ramsey was at his best beside Arteta, and Xhaka is a tougher version of Arteta. Cazorla seems to work better with Coquelin than Ramsey does.

That's without mentioning Wilshere and Elneny, who are both good players in their own right, although obviously Wilshere can't stay fit.

For all our striker/defence woes, we're stacked in midfield

Ken Shamrock

Skylinehead wrote: »

Xhaka and Ramsey probably, long term. Ramsey was at his best beside Arteta, and Xhaka is a tougher version of Arteta. Cazorla seems to work better with Coquelin than Ramsey does.

That's without mentioning Wilshere and Elneny, who are both good players in their own right, although obviously Wilshere can't stay fit.

For all our striker/defence woes, we're stacked in midfield

Definitely stacked in the midfield, just worried if we keep changing it up will it be difficult to find consistency.

Oxil,Caz and Wilshere has me drooling but I like Ozil,Ramsey,Xhaka too. Exciting times for the middle of the park, even if we buy a WC striker or winger as opposed to both we will be a force to reckoned with but both would be preferable.

Only worry on paper then is Kos's partner/replacement should he be injured.

Skylinehead

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Definitely stacked in the midfield, just worried if we keep changing it up will it be difficult to find consistency.

Oxil,Caz and Wilshere has me drooling but I like Ozil,Ramsey,Xhaka too. Exciting times for the middle of the park, even if we buy a WC striker or winger as opposed to both we will be a force to reckoned with but both would be preferable.

Only worry on paper then is Kos's partner/replacement should he be injured.

Think your first one is a bit lightweight, although in games where we dominate it would be good to try. Xhaka's been brought in as a first teamer I'd say.

Yeah we need a centre half as much as a striker really. Doesn't need to be a world beater, unlike said striker, but someone like Koulibaly or if possible Marquinhos would be ideal.