Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

gosplan

speedboatchase wrote: »

People said the same things when we were linked to Suarez in 2013. Who cares? He's 23 and a proven goalscorer in a tough league for strikers. I'd take him.

He makes the John Terry/Wayne Bridge thing look like good friendship.

speedboatchase

gosplan wrote: »

He makes the John Terry/Wayne Bridge thing look like good friendship.

And Giroud cheated on his wife with a model he brought to the team hotel.

Who cares? Icardi is better than Giroud. Let's make a bid.

CatInABox

brianregan09 wrote: »

To be honest I'd be blown away if we got Lacezzette because when all the gossip and ****e was going around he's the one I thought we had the least chance of getting because of Aulas who's notoriously tough to negotiate with

I'd be delighted with the window if we ended up him mahrez and mustafi that'd be 4 players straight into the 1st 11 more or less

I saw on twitter this morning that we're going back with an improved offer for him. Of course, it was from "Sky Sources", so pinch of salt required.

speedboatchase

speedboatchase wrote: »

People said the same things when we were linked to Suarez in 2013. Who cares? He's 23 and a proven goalscorer in a tough league for strikers. I'd take him.

He's nowhere near the level of Suarez, that's the difference.

The Ox has looked really good in preseason. Would be good to have a bit of competition for whoever comes in to play on the wing.

As for Theo, he really has lost it. He should have put one away last night, but just not happening for him.

Alfred Borden

Jack out injured for a week

Alfred Borden

Alexis and Ramsey back for next week

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160801/wenger-on-alexis-and-ramsey-return

mansize

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Jack out injured for a week

The season. FYP.

No evidence to support it, but wouldn't be surprised.

Mickeroo

Basil3 wrote: »

He's nowhere near the level of Suarez, that's the difference.

The notion we have to buy someone of that level to compete is a fallacy. Even a striker a little bit bit better or worse than Giroud puts us in a much better position than last season in terms of depth alone. If he has goal drought, off day or gets injured it's better to have another striker in the squad than not, someone who should manage roughly the same amount of goals in all comps as Giroud would make the world of difference and I think Icardi and Lacazette fit the bill perfectly.

speedboatchase

Basil3 wrote: »

He's nowhere near the level of Suarez, that's the difference.

Suarez is the best striker in the world.

emmetlego

The gossip machine is really in full drive these last few days.

The Mahrez thing has gone quiet, despite that 'knowing look' from Arsene yesterday.

The Mustafi thing has got a lot of traction in lots of circles, he'd be a brilliant signing.

Lacazette would be my preference over Icardi, and that has got some wheels too...

But remember, this is all just gossip... Until the jersey photo shoot is done or Ornstein tweets it, stay calm folks!

tayto lover

I don't know much about the foreign strikers but we won't win anything with the mis-firing Walcott, Welbeck or Ox as replacements for Giroud when he's injured or going through a bad spell. We need someone a lot better than them.

gosplan

I don't really mind and can't particularly pretend to know which is better between Icardi, Lacazette and Mahrez.

The only reason I go for Mahrez is because I think we might still sign a CF if we get him.

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

The notion we have to buy someone of that level to compete is a fallacy. Even a striker a little bit bit better or worse than Giroud puts us in a much better position than last season in terms of depth alone. If he has goal drought, off day or gets injured it's better to have another striker in the squad than not, someone who should manage roughly the same amount of goals in all comps as Giroud would make the world of difference and I think Icardi and Lacazette fit the bill perfectly.

That's true, but completely missing the point I was making.

gosplan

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't know much about the foreign strikers but we won't win anything with the mis-firing Walcott, Welbeck or Ox as replacements for Giroud when he's injured or going through a bad spell. We need someone a lot better than them.

This is so true.

Plus if Giroud got injured after the window closed, top 4 would even be a stretch.

For that reason plus the fact that Wenger was willing to spend 20+ million on Vardy, a player with no resale value, plus the fact that Ozil, Sanchez and Kos will definitely go if we don't show some ambition, I've no doubt Wenger will sign a decent option up front.

greendom

emmetlego wrote: »

The gossip machine is really in full drive these last few days.

The Mahrez thing has gone quiet, despite that 'knowing look' from Arsene yesterday.

The Mustafi thing has got a lot of traction in lots of circles, he'd be a brilliant signing.

Lacazette would be my preference over Icardi, and that has got some wheels too...

But remember, this is all just gossip... Until the jersey photo shoot is done or Ornstein tweets it, stay calm folks!

Re Mahrez, reports in France suggest that he won't sign a new contract with Leicester and that his main concern is playing style.

brianregan09

greendom wrote: »

Re Mahrez, reports in France suggest that he won't sign a new contract with Leicester and that his main concern is playing style.

I wonder who has a distinct playing style that would suit eh :P

emergingstar

brianregan09 wrote: »

I wonder who has a distinct playing style that would suit eh :P

Not us out playing style is shïte lately

greendom

emergingstar wrote: »

Not us out playing style is shïte lately

He has been linked with Barca too

emergingstar

greendom wrote: »

He has been linked with Barca too

Wenger keeps mentioning last week of window

We will prob have to wait until then to see who we get

gosplan

emergingstar wrote: »

Wenger keeps mentioning last week of window

We will prob have to wait until then to see who we get

I think the most obvious thing is we're in for Mahrez but he's waiting to see if a better offer comes along.

AdamD

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/4vjl3i/why_i_believe_lacazette_is_almost_certainly/

Interesting. Lyon sure do love talking publicly about transfers

greendom

AdamD wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/4vjl3i/why_i_believe_lacazette_is_almost_certainly/

Interesting. Lyon sure do love talking publicly about transfers

Good stuff- essentially it's down to how much Wenger wants Lacazette. He will leave Lyon if we're prepared to pay enough.

speedboatchase

greendom wrote: »

He has been linked with Barca too

They wouldn't need him after getting Andre Gomes.

Bobby Baccala

speedboatchase wrote: »

They wouldn't need him after getting Andre Gomes.

Mahrez and Gomes aren't remotely similar?

brianregan09

Would he go to Barca to sit on the bench though behind Suarez Neymar and messi though ?

Soups123

Leicester sign a new winger, maybe it'll happen......

speedboatchase

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Mahrez and Gomes aren't remotely similar?

Ah, thought he was a winger. In any case, I remember seeing El Mundo Deportivo recently suggest Barcelona are done once they pick up a sub striker. Haven't seen Mahrez heavily linked in any Spanish papers at all this summer.

Ajfunky

So how we would we like to see us line out before liverpool? Expecting Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla, Mert all out, and no new transfers (so hopefully this will be obsolete by next week!) Id say

Giroud (Hopefully back to Work)

Iwobi - Ramsey - Ox

Wilshere - Xhaka

Monreal - Kos - Gabriel - Bellerin

cech

Bobby Baccala

Ajfunky wrote: »

So how we would we like to see us line out before liverpool? Expecting Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla, Mert all out, and no new transfers (so hopefully this will be obsolete by next week!) Id say

Giroud (Hopefully back to Work)

Iwobi - Ramsey - Ox

Wilshere - Xhaka

Monreal - Kos - Gabriel - Bellerin

cech

Think it'll be Walcott up top unfortunately. Isn't Cazorla back? He'll definitely be starting if so. Wilshere is out for a week apparently, which means he's out until about November at the earliest knowing our luck so I doubt we'll see him against Pool

Edit: just saw Cazorla is out, bollocks.

tayto lover

Ajfunky wrote: »

So how we would we like to see us line out before liverpool? Expecting Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla, Mert all out, and no new transfers (so hopefully this will be obsolete by next week!) Id say

Giroud (Hopefully back to Work)

Iwobi - Ramsey - Ox

Wilshere - Xhaka

Monreal - Kos - Gabriel - Bellerin

cech

Sanchez was on the bench the other night too. He's probably fit to play.

extra gravy

Akpom up front please, he might lack PL experience but at least he's scoring goals.

batistuta9

cech
bellerin kos gab monreal
ramsey xhaka
ox iwobi campbell
sanchez

Ajfunky

Yeah if Giroud and Sanchez are out i'd lob Akpom up front. I just don't want to see Walcott near the team, even agains twhat will probably be a fairly weak defense.

smilerf

Elneny will definitely start before Jack.
Hope Akpom starts ahead of Theo

DarraghF197

Akpom
Ramsey Cazorla/Wilshere Oxlade Chamberlain
Xhaka Coquelin
Monreal Gabriel Koscielny Bellerin
Cech
Hopefully one of Cazorla or Wilshere would be fit - maybe they could rotate at half time. The season hasn't even started and the squad looks stretched. I'd nearly fancy Akpom over Walcott to be honest. Didn't realise so much of our key players are out. First game looks a lot harder than it originally did.

gosplan

Wenger said Ramsey and Sanchez back for next pre-season game.

Judging from that timeline, Ozil, Giroud and Kos should be back for opener. If not though, and assuming Wilshire and Caz out (worst case)

Cech
Bellerin - Gabriel - Chambers - Monreal
Xhaka - Rambo
Sanchez - Iwobi - Ox
Walcott


I think out best team for the season, not including anyone coming in is probably...

Xhaka - Rambo
Sanchez - Ozil - Caz
Giroud

AdamD

Cazorla's the slowest player in the team he can't play on the wing

gosplan

AdamD wrote: »

Cazorla's the slowest player in the team he can't play on the wing

He's played most of his football for us there, no?

Quazzie

gosplan wrote: »

He's played most of his football for us there, no?

No. He's been centre mid only for quiet some time now

ronjo

gosplan wrote: »

Wenger said Ramsey and Sanchez back for next pre-season game.

Judging from that timeline, Ozil, Giroud and Kos should be back for opener. If not though, and assuming Wilshire and Caz out (worst case)

Cech
Bellerin - Gabriel - Chambers - Monreal
Xhaka - Rambo
Sanchez - Iwobi - Ox
Walcott


I think out best team for the season, not including anyone coming in is probably...

Xhaka - Rambo
Sanchez - Ozil - Caz
Giroud

For me its


Xhaka - Cazorla
Ox- Ozil - Sanchez
Giroud

But I hope we can add Mahrez to replace Ox

gosplan

Quazzie wrote: »

No. He's been centre mid only for quiet some time now

But he was 2 years out wide first. Only played center mid in his third season.

Edit: just checked it and he played a fair bit more on the wing. Scored nearly all his goals there too.

keano_afc

Oh ye of little faith. We'll probably line up like this against the Mugsmashers:

Cech

Harry Bell Mustafi Gabriel Monreal

Xhaka Elneny

Mahrez Ozil Sanchez

Lacazette

It's going to be very interesting to see what Wenger does with his 'best starting 11'.

For me, you'd assume that Ozil, Sanchez, Ramsey, Xhaka and Giroud/World Class Striker are definite starters. That leaves one place for new winger/Ox/Theo/Caz/Wilshere. That's not even taking into account Coq and Elneny.

I'm sure injuries will help him decide in the end.

gosplan

keano_afc wrote: »

Oh ye of little faith. We'll probably line up like this against the Mugsmashers:

Cech

Harry Bell Mustafi Gabriel Monreal

Xhaka Elneny

Mahrez Ozil Sanchez

Lacazette

You forgot Griezmann.

gandalf

gosplan wrote: »

You forgot Griezmann.

He's on the bench

JustTheOne

Basil3 wrote: »

It's going to be very interesting to see what Wenger does with his 'best starting 11'.

For me, you'd assume that Ozil, Sanchez, Ramsey, Xhaka and Giroud/World Class Striker are definite starters. That leaves one place for new winger/Ox/Theo/Caz/Wilshere. That's not even taking into account Coq and Elneny.

I'm sure injuries will help him decide in the end.

Why would you think he would drop cazorla who was our best player last season until his injury and when the wheels came off our title challenge?

emergingstar

Cech
Bellerin. Gab. Chambers. Monreal
Xhaka. Elneny
Ox. Ramsey. Sanchez
Akpom

I reckon we will start like that against Liverpool

JustTheOne

JustTheOne wrote: »

Why would you think he would drop cazorla who was our best player last season until his injury and when the wheels came off our title challenge?

I really don't think Caz was our best player, but that's a matter of opinion.

My point is that he misses out purely based on who I think is definitely in his best starting 11. Caz causes a bit of a conundrum, because when you play in his position, you need to be contributing goals. I don't think he got a single goal last season.

JustTheOne

Basil3 wrote: »

I really don't think Caz was our best player, but that's a matter of opinion.

My point is that he misses out purely based on who I think is definitely in his best starting 11. Caz causes a bit of a conundrum, because when you play in his position, you need to be contributing goals. I don't think he got a single goal last season.

He was our best player he kept our midfield flowing. When he got injured it fell apart.

As you said matter of opinion.