Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

Quazzie

Lahinchians wrote: »

Lads, I've been around this forum for a long while at this stage. I've not seen any other thread that devolves into the bullshît this thread does. I'll find my arsenal news elsewhere, I'm out.

Have you changed your name, because I've literally never seen your name before?


Anyways. Overall today's performance was very mixed. We seen the best and worst of our team. Unfortunately the worst, feels even worse than normal, because it's the same thing over and over again. Years old mistakes being repeated constantly.

Xhaka looks like he will definitely need a bedding in period to come to terms with the pace of football around him. It would appear that Wengers decision to leave him on the bench has been justified by that performance.

A poor ten minutes straddling the half time whistle unfortunately masks what was a game where we controlled large parts of the game. We look good in possession, but we looked clueless when without it, and that's going to happen every game.

wandatowell

Nothing is gonna change until Arsene does the honourable thing.

gosplan

I've no problem losing to pool.

It's the asking for it part that bugs me. A nice 4 goals conceded in 20 minutes spell to kick the season off.

omega man

Hate to say it but Sanchez is pants. Worrying.

DarraghF197

wandatowell wrote: »

Nothing is gonna change until Arsene does the honourable thing...

... And signs some f***ing players! Jesus Christ, starting Holding and Chambers at the back and not expecting them to f*** up at some stage? I don't understand the man.

emmetlego

Quazzie wrote: »

Have you changed your name, because I've literally never seen your name before?


Anyways. Overall today's performance was very mixed. We seen the best and worst of our team. Unfortunately the worst, feels even worse than normal, because it's the same thing over and over again. Years old mistakes being repeated constantly.

Xhaka looks like he will definitely need a bedding in period to come to terms with the pace of football around him. It would appear that Wengers decision to leave him on the bench has been justified by that performance.

A poor ten minutes straddling the half time whistle unfortunately masks what was a game where we controlled large parts of the game. We look good in possession, but we looked clueless when without it, and that's going to happen every game.

Agreed. We really missed our main men today, but especially Koscielny. I thought Holding had a decent game in fairness, looks a good prospect, but Wenger better not f*****g use that as an excuse not to sign class CB's this term.

Very disappointed again in Ox, despite his goal, when we were really chasing it at 3-4 down, he gave the ball away cheaply time and again.

MonsterCookie

**** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

That was painful

We normally respond well to **** results. Hope we can do the same again. Santi looked pisses off coming on!?!? Any news on Rambo?

brianregan09

Sanchez isn't pants he's just not a target man he was isolated up there on his own you see his best work from the wing or as the deep lying forward of a front 2

omega man

Lahinchians wrote: »

Lads, I've been around this forum for a long while at this stage. I've not seen any other thread that devolves into the bullshît this thread does. I'll find my arsenal news elsewhere, I'm out.

Sure......right. So long Arsene

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

And then you have to go and make a comment like that. Classic.

But true.

Bobby Baccala

Hopefully we don't see that centre back pairing again in a league game this season, I like the look of Holding and I'm a fan of Chambers but they're clearly not ready to play together for Arsenal.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

But true.

Just for the record, I think Wenger does plenty of things wrong. I'm also a reasonable, logical person, and I can understand why football players are given a few weeks off, and why they need time to return to full fitness after that.

wonga77

Nothing majorly surprising about that, I'm just glad they didn't hit us for a few more. I don't understand how people still have Faith in Wenger to deliver, we're obviously lacking and the same obvious problems haven't been addressed.
What does annoy me now is that my friends don't even bother ribbing me anymore, I'm only getting sympathy.

I'd love for wengers vision of how a club should be run to come right but we've been stuck with him long enough now to know that its just not going to happen.

keano_afc

omega man wrote: »

Hate to say it but Sanchez is pants. Worrying.

He's not a striker and never will be. It's not his fault he's asked to play there by an inept manager.

All in all, pretty predictable stuff. We don't have a defence and played like it. Looking forward to "handbrake on, little bit naive, plenty of positives" from Scrooge.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

Just for the record, I think Wenger does plenty of things wrong. I'm also a reasonable, logical person, and I can understand why football players are given a few weeks off, and why they need time to return to full fitness after that.

Interesting to see if Payet will play tomorrow for WH.

tayto lover

Have to agree with Souness there. We are a business first and foremost.
Wenger is a CEO now not a manager.

omega man

Basil3 wrote: »

Just for the record, I think Wenger does plenty of things wrong. I'm also a reasonable, logical person, and I can understand why football players are given a few weeks off, and why they need time to return to full fitness after that.

That's fair enough but not when your other top 2 CBs are injured. No excuse for Kos not playing and today's result backs that up.

mansize

omega man wrote: »

That's fair enough but not when your other top 2 CBs are injured. No excuse for Kos not playing and today's result backs that up.

What if he wasn't ready, match fit and got injured?

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

Have to agree with Souness there. We are a business first and foremost.
Wenger is a CEO now not a manager.

They are all businesses, and the irony of BSkyB to attack that - they created this monster

mansize

omega man wrote: »

Hate to say it but Sanchez is pants. Worrying.

He wasn't great last seaso

mansize

And Neville knows it's easy to talk the talk, management at this level ain't easy

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

What if he wasn't ready, match fit and got injured?

Why would he not be ready when his French team-mates are playing with their clubs?
Its a disgrace.

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

And Neville knows it's easy to talk the talk, management at this level ain't easy

Wenger's making it look very difficult anyway.

emergingstar

Getting beat by Liverpool is not that bad there a decent team

Whats annoying is we shipped for goals knowing we needed a centre back

What's annoying is Sanchez was useless and we no we need a striker

What's annoying is we will fight tooth and nail for points come the end of the season, but season after season Wenger throws away the early fixtures like he don't care

JustTheOne

Predictable.

gosplan

mansize wrote: »

And Neville knows it's easy to talk the talk, management at this level ain't easy

No but approaching every game doing everything you can to win is pretty important.

Wenger, through his actions, basically said that there are more important things than winning today.

I accept waiting for signings may be, I accept not rushing Caz back may be,I accept not cutting short players rest time may be.

But at some point, winning the actual game we're playing right now has to come first.

There was four or five things Wenger could have done over the last few weeks to improve our chances. He did none of them.

emergingstar

Ozil and Sanchez would be idiots too sign contracts at the moment

pudzey101

does this loss mean we HAVE so sign someone ? ... sick of wenger treating the club money as if was his own

Alfred Borden

emergingstar wrote: »

Ozil and Sanchez would be idiots too sign contracts at the moment

Kos is the one I feel the most sorry for. World class centre back with two FA cups to his name. Probably the best centre back in the world with no major league title.

brianregan09

Kos is a fantastic Centre back but he's not best in the world

mansize

brianregan09 wrote: »

Kos is a fantastic Centre back but he's not best in the world

I think he meant best without a title tbf

gandalf

The shortcomings everyone knew about have bitten us in the ass again. Feckin Groundhog day feeling all over again.

Skylinehead

I know I said a few weeks ago wait until the season starts before shouting for lack of transfers...well we're here now.

It's been almost 3 months since Xhaka signed now. What are they at in there?

omega man

Wenger very downbeat during interview. Hate listening to the man lately but felt a bit for him there. His own doing though.

Souness on the money which kills me to say.

JustTheOne

omega man wrote: »

Wenger very downbeat during interview. Hate listening to the man lately but felt a bit for him there. His own doing though.

Souness on the money which kills me to say.

As someone said that's what he's putting across in the dressing room and pitch.

speedboatchase

Skylinehead wrote: »

I know I said a few weeks ago wait until the season starts before shouting for lack of transfers...well we're here now.

It's been almost 3 months since Xhaka signed now. What are they at in there?

Making deriosory bids and then walking away.

Lacazette hat-trick today, by the way. So that's added another 10m or so to his asking price.

Gringo180

tayto lover wrote: »

Interesting to see if Payet will play tomorrow for WH.

Players like Kos, Ozil, Giroud should be screaming out to play in this game, demanding it . This club is full of mediocrisy and the most worrying this is its accepted.

Gringo180

speedboatchase wrote: »

Making deriosory bids and then walking away.

Lacazette hat-trick today, by the way. So that's added another 10m or so to his asking price.

We only bid low so we can say "at least we tried".. . How many times over the years have we being in this position? We win a few games on the trot and get our hopes up again only to blow up when the pressure is on. We need drastic changes at the club.

KaiserGunner

That was one of the lowest points in years. We could all see it coming, apart from one man. We were without a few players, but even the players that were available, Wenger picked the wrong ones, our bench had better players than the starting lineup.

I don't know how anyone can back Wenger anymore. Haven't even listened to the post match interview, couldn't bare to listen to him excuse that match. He's taking the piss these days.

wawaman

On the plus side, each game this season is one closer to having a new man in charge next season

Topbike77

I know theres a million things to fault, number one being the transfer situation. But in terms of the team selection today Ox should have started ahead of Iwobi. And I think it's going to be a great season for him.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I'm so utterly sick of this....every year. Every single year. Football isn't everything, but Jesus it's just so frustrating every weekend watching the same old when you know where the problems are and who's to blame. Arsenal the company first not arsenal the football club.

Meh.

wandatowell

A mate just reminded me of something Arsene said this morning about not needing another striker as we have Alexis and Theo.


Oh right then Arsene.

j14

Iwobi has a thigh strain and Ramsey has tweeked his hamstring. What a crappy day all round.

tayto lover

wawaman wrote: »

On the plus side, each game this season is one closer to having a new man in charge next season

Not a f*ucking chance.
He wants to renew his contract.
He's taking the piss with this great club.

bad2dabone

If your job was to get a project ready for a certain date and you had adequate resources to complete it and yet when the due date came around and you were woefully unprepared for it you'd most likely be sacked.

Wenger had to get the side ready for the premier league, clearly the club is very wealthy and he has resources at his disposal. And yet again he hasn't made the moves to strengthen the team where we know it needs to be improved. But this time it's even worse than usual. We were totally blown away today, don't let the consolation goals fool us. Woefully unprepared. In any other organisation he'd be under pressure from his boss but here his boss doesn't give a ****e either!

tayto lover

bad2dabone wrote: »

If your job was to get a project ready for a certain date and you had adequate resources to complete it and yet when the due date came around and you were woefully unprepared for it you'd most likely be sacked.

Wenger had to get the side ready for the premier league, clearly the club is very wealthy and he has resources at his disposal. And yet again he hasn't made the moves to strengthen the team where we know it needs to be improved. But this time it's even worse than usual. We were totally blown away today, don't let the consolation goals fool us. Woefully unprepared. In any other organisation he'd be under pressure from his boss but here his boss doesn't give a ****e either!

Very true and well put. Good post.

bad2dabone

It's a dysfunctional organisation. I like Wenger as a man, I find him interesting and erudite.

But he's torpedo-ing the club. Along with Stan.

omega man

bad2dabone wrote: »

If your job was to get a project ready for a certain date and you had adequate resources to complete it and yet when the due date came around and you were woefully unprepared for it you'd most likely be sacked.

Wenger had to get the side ready for the premier league, clearly the club is very wealthy and he has resources at his disposal. And yet again he hasn't made the moves to strengthen the team where we know it needs to be improved. But this time it's even worse than usual. We were totally blown away today, don't let the consolation goals fool us. Woefully unprepared. In any other organisation he'd be under pressure from his boss but here his boss doesn't give a ****e either!

The problem is that the 'project' is a self sustaining football club business model achieved in part by maintaining top 4 status. In which case Wenger achieves his performance targets year in year out. His remuneration package reflects that 'success'.

tayto lover

omega man wrote: »

The problem is that the 'project' is a self sustaining football club business model achieved in part by maintaining top 4 status. In which case Wenger achieves his performance targets year in year out. His remuneration package reflects that 'success'.

Yep.
Business - first.
Football - second.