Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

greendom

Hyzepher wrote: »

I actually haven't given up hope.

I win on Saturday and I think it's still possible given the chance that Leicester still might find it hard to close it out. It's a very long shot but a better chance than the last number of seasons. If any fans know anything about slipping up it's us. It all boils down to beating West Ham on Saturday though.

By the time we play Man City we could be as little as 3 pts behind

love the optimism, but I felt their win over Southampton just left us with too much to do. (If I wanted to be negative I'd say the defeats at home to Swansea, the equally abysmal performance at Old Trafford meant that we put it out of our own reach)

gosplan

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Cause nobody could see that coming and nobody could have done anything to prevent it...

Of course. But that's a slightly different point.

Ken Shamrock

gosplan wrote: »

Of course. But that's a slightly different point.

Granted, but It all boils down to Wenger and that's the point he's trying to make I believe.

gosplan

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Granted, but It all boils down to Wenger and that's the point he's trying to make I believe.

Grand. Can we avoid incorrect posts about selection policy then and just say Wenger's not good enough.

Ken Shamrock

gosplan wrote: »

Grand. Can we avoid incorrect posts about selection policy then and just say Wenger's not good enough.

We definitely can but then you'd have nothing to moan about.

Colonialboy

greendom wrote: »

I still think he had a remarkable record over the last 10 years since last winning the league, and this is the first season where it looks like he isn't going to meet expectations.

I would 100% disgree with all of what you say there.

gosplan

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

We definitely can but then you'd have nothing to moan about.

Chill out on the agression please. I was just disagreeing with a point someone else made.

greendom

Colonialboy wrote: »

I would 100% disgree with all of what you say there.

That's undoubtedly true

emmetlego

For the sake of the thread lads, can you just agree to disagree? It's quite tiresome.

I have defended Wenger for years, but I've stopped now. It was now or never for me at Xmas time. He and his team have failed terribly, and probably the worst of this team's years in the last decade.

I personally don't want Arsene any more, but I'll pay him the respect he deserves and allow him to leave when he sees fit. We owe him that much!

I said earlier on this thread, that IF he goes and does a most un-Arsene thing this summer and buys a WC striker, right winger, and strengthens CMF and CH, then I'd like to see him give it a go. But we all know, he won't go and spend that cash. He won't un-Arsene himself. That makes me sad!

tayto lover

I think things will remain more or less the same.

Wenger will stay for years yet and buy the odd big player but we will remain as we are i.e. hanging around close to the top but not winning. That is not good.

emmetlego

Just curious. And I'm not stirring it here... But where would we be without the stadium and the extra capacity?

Please don't answer with "Highbury" :-) :-)

Quazzie

emmetlego wrote: »

Just curious. And I'm not stirring it here... But where would we be without the stadium and the extra capacity?

Please don't answer with "Highbury" :-) :-)

Under "oil" ownership and building a new stadium for free.

greendom

emmetlego wrote: »

Just curious. And I'm not stirring it here... But where would we be without the stadium and the extra capacity?

Please don't answer with "Highbury" :-) :-)

Where Spurs are. About to build and move into one. We would have won more in the intervening period though. And TV money is so high now that the expected advantage of higher attendances is not as big as it was when the stadium was built

gosplan

emmetlego wrote: »

For the sake of the thread lads, can you just agree to disagree? It's quite tiresome.

I have defended Wenger for years, but I've stopped now. It was now or never for me at Xmas time. He and his team have failed terribly, and probably the worst of this team's years in the last decade.

I personally don't want Arsene any more, but I'll pay him the respect he deserves and allow him to leave when he sees fit. We owe him that much!

I said earlier on this thread, that IF he goes and does a most un-Arsene thing this summer and buys a WC striker, right winger, and strengthens CMF and CH, then I'd like to see him give it a go. But we all know, he won't go and spend that cash. He won't un-Arsene himself. That makes me sad!

I agree with this.

Basically I'd like someone better than Wenger but not just not-Wenger.

I wouldn't go as far with the necessary purchases.

I think we need another good goalscorer. Preferably a striker abut a really good winger would be Ok. Then we need a backup to Coq. It seems Elneny and Caz both work well with that style of player but Coq is the only person who can do that job.

jonneymendoza

emmetlego wrote: »

Just curious. And I'm not stirring it here... But where would we be without the stadium and the extra capacity?

Please don't answer with "Highbury" :-) :-)

We would have won the CL already

emmetlego

jonneymendoza wrote: »

We would have won the CL already

How do you figure that?

jonneymendoza

emmetlego wrote: »

How do you figure that?

ya get me

wonga77

5star02707

wonga77 wrote: »

^ WCW
more like wrestling to me :L :L :L i kid..

emmetlego

jonneymendoza wrote: »

ya get me

I'm lost. Can you please explain?

Bobby Baccala

emmetlego wrote: »

I'm lost. Can you please explain?

Wouldn't bother if I were you emmet!

emmetlego

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Wouldn't bother if I were you emmet!

Now I'm really lost. Did I miss something?

Quazzie

emmetlego wrote: »

Now I'm really lost. Did I miss something?

I think he means that Johnny will have to wait till he reads something somewhere else that someone else said then he might copy and paste in here to answer you.

emmetlego

OK... I've just read through some of the older posts of his. I'm a little slow on the uptake! A bit like how I've been with Wenger, a bit slow to see the failure!

emmetlego

Loving Tim Stillman's latest post on Arseblog too...

Colonialboy

gosplan wrote: »

Then we need a backup to Coq. .

why do we need a backup for Coq..

Coq got injured we were fourth place, looked like we were not going to qualify from our CL group, and had been dumped out of the league Cup.

While Coq was out and just before he returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came straight back into the team , our league form collapses , we are out of the FA Cup and CL we were embarrassed.

why did he come straight back into the team. see my earlier post on Wenger selection policy.. hes french of course.
dem de facts ...

Eleny is looking good and in fairness Iwobi is looking like he has some ability, I admit my first thoguhts were he was another Ox., Iwobi reminds me of few fringe players who were on Arsenals books who got a run showed some promise and then were cast aside so Wenger could go back to his regulars. Wenger seems to be sticking with Iwobi and giving him a right chance, probably has no choice.

greendom

Colonialboy wrote: »

why do we need a backup for Coq..

Coq got injured we were fourth place, looked like we were not going to qualify from our CL group, and had been dumped out of the league Cup.

While Coq was out and just before he returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came straight back into the team , our league form collapses , we are out of the FA Cup and CL we were embarrassed.

why did he come straight back into the team. see my earlier post on Wenger selection policy.. hes french of course.
dem de facts ...

Eleny is looking good and in fairness Iwobi looks good too, Iwobe reminds me of few fringe players who were on Arsenals books who got a run showed some promise and then were cast aside so Wenger could go back to his regulars. Wenger seems to be sticking with Iwobi and giving him a right chance, probably has no choice.

Coquelin's poor form was coupled with Cazorla's absence. The 2 worked really well together.

Likewise he seems to be developing a really good understanding with Eleny too, from what I can see.

Tomorrow will be a big test for the pair. I'm confident they will see it through.

Colonialboy

greendom wrote: »

Coquelin's poor form was coupled with Cazorla's absence. The 2 worked really well together.

Likewise he seems to be developing a really good understanding with Eleny too, from what I can see.

Tomorrow will be a big test for the pair. I'm confident they will see it through.

that makes no sense ..

Carzola is still out and as I said while both Coq and Carzola were out and just before Coq returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came back in , still no Carzola and we have collapsed.

Wenger tinkered with the team that was sitting top of the league , thru in CL and looking comfortable in the FACup, all to accomodate Coq. Check the team sheets around those periods when season was looking great and when we started to fall away .

greendom

Colonialboy wrote: »

that makes no sense ..

Carzola is still out and as I said while both Coq and Carzola were out and just before Coq returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came back in , still no Carzola and we have collapsed.

Wenger tinkered with the team that was sitting top of the league , thru in CL and looking comfortable in the FACup, all to accomodate Coq. Check the team sheets around those periods when season was looking great and when we started to fall away .

Where did you mention Cazorla ?

Coquelin plays well in partnership with Cazorla. He seems to be playing well with Eleny - where does that not make sense ?

Cartman78

Well lads...need some advice on a Fantasy Football conundrum.

Do ye see Iwobi getting much game time over the next 3-4 games or is he at risk when/if Ramsey returns?

Cheers cm

JustTheOne

Colonialboy wrote: »

that makes no sense ..

Carzola is still out and as I said while both Coq and Carzola were out and just before Coq returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came back in , still no Carzola and we have collapsed.

Wenger tinkered with the team that was sitting top of the league , thru in CL and looking comfortable in the FACup, all to accomodate Coq. Check the team sheets around those periods when season was looking great and when we started to fall away .

People are overlooking the one reason our form dropped. Ramsey.

When coq played with santi he was brilliant, as soon as Ramsey comes in coq's form drops and we go on a bad run.

Once Ramsey gets injured and coq plays with a proper midfielder like Elneny his form picks up and our midfield looks solid again.

This whole Ramsey's best position in the centre is a myth.

We scraped a few wins with flamini and Ramsey but it went downhill rapidly even when coq came back.

greendom

Cartman78 wrote: »

Well lads...need some advice on a Fantasy Football conundrum.

Do ye see Iwobi getting much game time over the next 3-4 games or is he at risk when/if Ramsey returns?

Cheers cm

I think he'd be worth a punt.

keano_afc

Cartman78 wrote: »

Well lads...need some advice on a Fantasy Football conundrum.

Do ye see Iwobi getting much game time over the next 3-4 games or is he at risk when/if Ramsey returns?

Cheers cm

As I said in the FF forum, he's in great form, exactly the kind of player we need, and is clicking with Sanchez and Ozil.

So expect him to be back on the bench so Ramsey can be played out of position as soon as he's fit.

emmetlego

keano_afc wrote: »

As I said in the FF forum, he's in great form, exactly the kind of player we need, and is clicking with Sanchez and Ozil.

So expect him to be back on the bench so Ramsey can be played out of position as soon as he's fit.

It would almost be funny, if it wasn't a real possibility!

extra gravy

Will be very annoyed if Ramsey just walks back into the starting 11 and Iwobi is the one to make way. He should have to earn his place back.

Bobby Baccala

Am I correct in saying Gnabry was recalled in January? Where has he been the past few months?

Quazzie

Iwobi is up for contract renewal hence him getting game time. Expect a new contract signed then for him to be fūcked back into the U21s.

Whatever happens to Campbell. Our best player for a while but Wenger had other ideas.

Bobby Baccala

Quazzie wrote: »

Iwobi is up for contract renewal hence him getting game time. Expect a new contract signed then for him to be fūcked back into the U21s.

Whatever happens to Campbell. Our best player for a while but Wenger had other ideas.

I'll be gutted in Campbell gets sold. He has firmly earned his place in our side, rarely gives the ball away and when he does he doesn't pull the headless chicken act like Alexis, he gets back very well.

Pepe LeFrits

JustTheOne wrote: »

People are overlooking the one reason our form dropped. Ramsey.

When coq played with santi he was brilliant, as soon as Ramsey comes in coq's form drops and we go on a bad run.

Once Ramsey gets injured and coq plays with a proper midfielder like Elneny his form picks up and our midfield looks solid again.

This whole Ramsey's best position in the centre is a myth.

We scraped a few wins with flamini and Ramsey but it went downhill rapidly even when coq came back.

It's not a myth, it is his best position.

Ramsey and Coquelin don't seem to work well as a pairing though.

Ramsey and Arteta was our best CM pairing in recent years.

Ken Shamrock

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

It's not a myth, it is his best position.

Ramsey and Coquelin don't seem to work well as a pairing though.

Ramsey and Arteta was our best CM pairing in recent years.

I agree CM Is his best position. I do feel though that he's not really suited to our play style recently and with his finishing being abysmal recently he really Is more of a liability than an asset.

We either need to find a pairing that works with him In the team or he needs to change his play style or find the amazing form he had a few years ago. Either way right now he wouldn't be In my starting XI

Pepe LeFrits

Nor mine. I think with the right partner he could be terrific, but it doesn't look like we have anyone suitable at the moment. Maybe Elneny might be suitable, or one of the lads we've been linked to recently.

He's by no means the perfect CM but finding a way to get the best out of him is worth persevering with. A midfielder breaking from deep who can score goals is so valuable in the modern game, particularly with the way we play.

Personally, I'd like to see Ramsey as one of a midfield trio behind Ozil.

greendom

Quazzie wrote: »

Iwobi is up for contract renewal hence him getting game time. Expect a new contract signed then for him to be fūcked back into the U21s.

Whatever happens to Campbell. Our best player for a while but Wenger had other ideas.

he's a hard worker with a good attitude and shows occasional flourishes, but best player ?

Skylinehead

AM/behind the striker is Ramsey's best position, it frees him up to make those attacking runs without as much defensive responsibility, and he can afford to lose possession more there too.

There is a German-shaped problem there though.

Ken Shamrock

Skylinehead wrote: »

AM/behind the striker is Ramsey's best position, it frees him up to make those attacking runs without as much defensive responsibility, and he can afford to lose possession more there too.

There is a German-shaped problem there though.

And Cazorla and I'd even prefer Rosicky there. God I miss Rosicky

emmetlego

He's back for the 21's this evening as is Ramsey... We really missed him this year! Rosicky is a legend!

Ken Shamrock

emmetlego wrote: »

He's back for the 21's this evening as is Ramsey... We really missed him this year! Rosicky is a legend!

Yeah I saw that, Wilshere Is playing as well, unfortunately as good as Rosicky Is he won't see play time over Ozil or Carzola. He's too far gone now and had too many injuries It would take a long time for him to get to his best If he even can but even at that Ozil and Caz are far superior In most aspects.

I wish he would go to a different club or go out on loan just so he could actually play some games before he retires.

jonneymendoza

emmetlego wrote: »

How do you figure that?

We would not have to sell our best players each year to help fund the stadium or be constraint on buying new players had we stayed at highbury

gosplan

Colonialboy wrote: »

why do we need a backup for Coq..

Coq got injured we were fourth place, looked like we were not going to qualify from our CL group, and had been dumped out of the league Cup.

While Coq was out and just before he returned to the team , we were top of league, had achieved a miracle getting out of the group, were on a decent FA Cup run.. we were sitting pretty

Coq came straight back into the team , our league form collapses , we are out of the FA Cup and CL we were embarrassed.

why did he come straight back into the team. see my earlier post on Wenger selection policy.. hes french of course.
dem de facts ...

Eleny is looking good and in fairness Iwobi is looking like he has some ability, I admit my first thoguhts were he was another Ox., Iwobi reminds me of few fringe players who were on Arsenals books who got a run showed some promise and then were cast aside so Wenger could go back to his regulars. Wenger seems to be sticking with Iwobi and giving him a right chance, probably has no choice.

Are you saying Flamini is better??

He's also French though so that makes no sense.

Quazzie

greendom wrote: »

he's a hard worker with a good attitude and shows occasional flourishes, but best player ?

In terms of form at the time, he definitely was. 100% head and shoulders above most others during that period.

emmetlego

Good to see Jack and Tomas back playing for the 21's right now on Arsenal player. Bielek just scored a shocking OG!!!