Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

keano_afc

Arseblog is a great read this morning as always. The last paragraph sums it up.

"Our mentality was not good enough and I don’t think we can accept that as an Arsenal side. We should work on that because it’s not good enough."

So true, so very true. That was Thomas Vermaelen in May 2011, by the way.

Ken Shamrock

I loved Vermaelen

emmetlego

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

I loved Vermaelen

As did I, but it does look like Wenger got it right selling him when he did. Great fella to grab a goal too.

keano_afc

Giving Wenger a kings ransom will change nothing. The problem isnt the quality of the players, its a manager unable to manage them effectively any more.

Colonialboy

Wilsheres only gone and done a Joleyn Lescott...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/jack-wilshere-trolled-for-tweeting-picture-of-manchester-united-legends-by-accident-a6988876.html

emmetlego

So it looks most likely that Wenger will stay, as it's fairly common knowledge that Kronke won't sack him...

What will it take for us to believe again??

For me, IF he spent big this summer and bought a genuine top class striker with real pace, power and finish. He'd also have to add a proper right winger who can score and strengthen our centre half options with a starting player (not a squad lad) and finally a proper top class deep lying midfielder... Like Cazorla, but with more bite! Vieria like!

Don't get me wrong, I still want him to leave, but we know he won't! I'd buy into him again if he did splash the cash... Again, I know he won't :-(

wonga77

Tbh even if he splashed the cash and bought in world class players (which wont happen anyway) Id have zero confidence in him to achieve anything, tactically he seems to have been left behind and I think the coaching staff are getting away with murder too. Im still scratching my head at him bringing on Walcott over Campbell yesterday

wawaman

emmetlego wrote: »

So it looks most likely that Wenger will stay, as it's fairly common knowledge that Kronke won't sack him...

What will it take for us to believe again??

For me, IF he spent big this summer and bought a genuine top class striker with real pace, power and finish. He'd also have to add a proper right winger who can score and strengthen our centre half options with a starting player (not a squad lad) and finally a proper top class deep lying midfielder... Like Cazorla, but with more bite! Vieria like!

Don't get me wrong, I still want him to leave, but we know he won't! I'd buy into him again if he did splash the cash... Again, I know he won't :-(

Usually every year about this point i would think "if" we do this or sign him in the summer then we have a chance. This year? Nothing. Its the realisation that it doesnt matter what players come and who goes. The mentality at the club will still be rotten. That comes down to one man. TBH its heartbreaking that its got to this point when all there is to look forward to next season is more mediocrity. In all my years supporting arsenal i have never been at the point where i am now that all i feel is apathy.

greendom

emmetlego wrote: »

So it looks most likely that Wenger will stay, as it's fairly common knowledge that Kronke won't sack him...

What will it take for us to believe again??

For me, IF he spent big this summer and bought a genuine top class striker with real pace, power and finish. He'd also have to add a proper right winger who can score and strengthen our centre half options with a starting player (not a squad lad) and finally a proper top class deep lying midfielder... Like Cazorla, but with more bite! Vieria like!

Don't get me wrong, I still want him to leave, but we know he won't! I'd buy into him again if he did splash the cash... Again, I know he won't :-(

The club might be better off sourcing a new manager in a season's time, rather than getting rid now and making the wrong appointment. (Of course we could make the wrong choice in a year's time, but at least more thought would have gone into it).

Key thing for the new guy will be to convince the board and especially Kronke that the club needs to be spending a lot more money on player acquisition than it is currently

keano_afc

emmetlego wrote: »

So it looks most likely that Wenger will stay, as it's fairly common knowledge that Kronke won't sack him...

What will it take for us to believe again??

For me, IF he spent big this summer and bought a genuine top class striker with real pace, power and finish. He'd also have to add a proper right winger who can score and strengthen our centre half options with a starting player (not a squad lad) and finally a proper top class deep lying midfielder... Like Cazorla, but with more bite! Vieria like!

Don't get me wrong, I still want him to leave, but we know he won't! I'd buy into him again if he did splash the cash... Again, I know he won't :-(

So essentially 4 first team players need to be bought this summer. That is absolutely never gonna happen. We might get one, 2 at a very big push, and some filler. Next season is a write off already as far as I'm concerned because we're going into it with a manager that isn't capable of winning a title.

Ken Shamrock

emmetlego wrote: »

As did I, but it does look like Wenger got it right selling him when he did. Great fella to grab a goal too.

Maybe, but I'd still prefer him over Per or Gab, even to have him In the squad to help guys out etc would have been better than selling him and not replacing him with someone of similar experience.

Quazzie

emmetlego wrote: »

So it looks most likely that Wenger will stay, as it's fairly common knowledge that Kronke won't sack him...

What will it take for us to believe again??

For me, IF he spent big this summer and bought a genuine top class striker with real pace, power and finish. He'd also have to add a proper right winger who can score and strengthen our centre half options with a starting player (not a squad lad) and finally a proper top class deep lying midfielder... Like Cazorla, but with more bite! Vieria like!

Don't get me wrong, I still want him to leave, but we know he won't! I'd buy into him again if he did splash the cash... Again, I know he won't :-(

Even if he bought all that, I'd still want him gone. He doesn't know how to get the best of players, and he doesn't have it in him to read the game and change it's outcome from the bench. His metods are outdated, and we will never win another league with him in charge.

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

The club might be better off sourcing a new manager in a season's time, rather than getting rid now and making the wrong appointment. (Of course we could make the wrong choice in a year's time, but at least more thought would have gone into it).

Key thing for the new guy will be to convince the board and especially Kronke that the club needs to be spending a lot more money on player acquisition than it is currently

If the thought hasn't gone into it by now then we are in deep sh1t. A year will make no difference imo. We are fooked. Kronke will be looking for another "company man" as opposed to a football man. With him it's about money, not winning things as has already stated numerous times by posters who provided a link.

Marcus Antonius

Missed the match yesterday was traveling while it was on. Only caught the goals this morning. I know Cech is a great player and most people rate him highly but that was some bloody mistake for the goal. Getting beaten by a slowly bouncing ball from 35 yards on your post, awful stuff. Just want this season to be over at this stage. Looks like the fight for fourth is on as per usual.

wonga77

Id nearly give Cech a pass on it, yeah he should have saved it but he's been one of the only positives this season

Flatzie_poo

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

I know Cech is a great player and most people rate him highly but that was some bloody mistake for the goal. Getting beaten by a slowly bouncing ball from 35 yards on your post, awful stuff.

I know yeah, that whole him being human thing is absolutely awful...

jonneymendoza

Cech wasnt responsible of the sheit performances by the outfield players since the turn of the year.

Infact, if it wasnt for cech, we would be below united to be honest.

Soups123

The only way I'll believe in Arsene again is if he walks away. He can sign whoever he wants he won't compete at the top table with us again

Colonialboy

We need a change at the management table, Wenger should go, and if he wont go then appoint a new assistant manager , an ex-player doing well in management.
Or create a new Director of Football role for Wenger to take up this summer. Anything, thats the only thing that will change things at Arsenal, changes at the management table. All this talk of new players is great but wont mean anything unless Wengers comfy position is shook up.

And what are all these Rugby heads doing as Arsenal strength and conditioning coaches. What the fk does rugby conditioning have todo with soccer..oh I forgot they probably met Arsenses #1 priority ,they came at a bargain price. Why pay full whack for a soccer conditioning coach when you pick up a rugger bugger for half the price. Jerry Flannery, Johnny O'Connor, Des Ryan

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/johnny-o-connor
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan

7th richest club in the world and we have ex rugby players doing our strngth and conditioning work .. what the fk is going on.

Here Mezut I know you have a World cup medals but I have some tips on how to improve your scrummaging technique.
Alexis, forget about Champions League medals, these exercises are what will win you a Heinken European Cup ..
Wenger whatis going on at the Emirates..

Ken Shamrock

Colonialboy wrote: »

We need a change at the management table, Wenger should go, and if he wont go then appoint a new assistant manager , an ex-player doing well in management.
Or create a new Director of Football role for Wenger to take up this summer. Anything, thats the only thing that will change things at Arsenal, changes at the management table. All this talk of new players is great but wont mean anything unless Wengers comfy position is shook up.

And what are all these Rugby heads doing as Arsenal strength and conditioning coaches. What the fk does rugby conditioning have todo with soccer..oh I forgot they probably met Arsenses #1 priority ,they came at a bargain price. Why pay full whack for a soccer conditioning coach when you pick up a rugger bugger for half the price. Jerry Flannery, Johnny O'Connor, Des Ryan

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/johnny-o-connor
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan

7th richest club in the world and we have ex rugby players doing our strngth and conditioning work .. what the fk is going on.

You realise that conditioning Is essentially the same across all sports right? You know what conditioning Is don't you?

greendom

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Cech wasnt responsible of the sheit performances by the outfield players since the turn of the year.

Infact, if it wasnt for cech, we would be below united to be honest.

If we swapped Cech and De Gea where would both teams be?

Colonialboy

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

You realise that conditioning Is essentially the same across all sports right? You know what conditioning Is don't you?

Kenny you dissapoint me..

:eek::eek: Actually its not.

All sports require very specialised and tailored conditioning.
You dont get a skier doing the same strength and conditioning work as a cyclist.
Sure theres overlap on and some common leg exercises but as a whole package at the elite level they are both following very different programs.

Arsenals fitness record is atrocious, we have a bunch of rugby heads who have 40 years of developing short explosive power, massive upper body strength and limited flexibility all of whihc are not what the demands of modern football are. How can that not be influencing their program.

We are the 7th richest soccer club in the world, your saying we couldnt find a few soccer conditioning coaches familiar with the physical demands of a 60 game soccer season and how best to condition a player and help a player recover from injury. Remember our fitness history is atrocious the last few years.
Sounds like a Wenger quote there was nothing better out there so we took the rugby fellas.

Ken Shamrock

Colonialboy wrote: »

Kenny you dissapoint me..

:eek::eek: Actually its not.

All sports require very specialised and tailored conditioning.
You dont get a skier doing the same strength and conditioning work as a cyclist.
Sure theres overlap on and some common leg exercises but as a whole package at the elite level they are both following very different programs.

Arsenals fitness record is atrocious, we have a bunch of rugby heads who have 40 years of developing short explosive power, massive upper body strength and limited flexibility all of whihc are not what the demands of modern football are. How can that not be influencing their program.

We are the 7th richest soccer club in the world, your saying we couldnt find a few soccer conditioning coaches familiar with the physical demands of a 60 game soccer season and how best to condition a player and help a player recover from injury. Remember our fitness history is atrocious the last few years.
Sounds like a Wenger quote there was nothing better out there so we took the rugby fellas.

As I'm sure you're aware, our strength and conditioning coaches are not giving our players the same plans and workouts they would give to rugby players, they are tailored for footballers... my strength and conditioning coach for MMA Is the same coach for the Irish football team. 2 completely different sports but obviously our workouts are slightly different.

Colonialboy

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

As I'm sure you're aware, our strength and conditioning coaches are not giving our players the same plans and workouts they would give to rugby players, they are tailored for footballers... my strength and conditioning coach for MMA Is the same coach for the Irish football team. 2 completely different sports but obviously our workouts are slightly different.

Great and are you the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world yet.
And if you were the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world would you want all your strength and conditioning coaches to have a background in martial arts or similar disciplines or would you think you would still be sticking with the soccer coach. And Im talking on your full time paid books, not someone you draft in for a few aerobic sessions, Im talking permanent staff day in day out.

Personally I see very little overlap between rugbys strength and conditioning needs and soccers. Rugby big power run in more or less straight lines , soccer much less power, constantly changing direction.

Sure a rugby coach can say , here look Ive 20 years teaching guys to put on mass, explosive power, big necks and big upper bodys, run in straight lines, but in college we did a few modules on soccer so heres a program Ive knocked up. Ive no expereince of it really but this is theoretical.

For Arsenal Id prefer a guy who has 20 years of soccer strength and conditiong or even in a discipline with some commonality to soccer (flexibility, aerobic ) and says heres a program.
How else would you explain Arsenals poor injury record. For me having a bunch of rugger heads (who spent their lives developing mini Jonah Lomus and now have to crack open some books to figure out what teh next generation of Arsenal soccer players need) is one of the factors.

Same old Arsenal, sure it will do attitude.
Expect to compete on elite European level with cheap knock off French imports, add a couple of world class players, a few homegrown players who the media hype and a few background staff we picked up from another unrelated sport.

No wonder the top European teams dont take us seriously , we dont even take ourselves seriously.

emmetlego

Colonialboy wrote: »

Great and are you the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world yet.
And if you were the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world would you want all your strength and conditioning coaches to have a background in martial arts or similar disciplines or would you think you would still be sticking with the soccer coach. And Im talking on your full time paid books, not someone you draft in for a few aerobic sessions, Im talking permanent staff day in day out.

Personally I see very little overlap between rugbys strength and conditioning needs and soccers. Rugby big power run in more or less straight lines , soccer much less power, constantly changing direction.

Sure a rugby coach can say , here look Ive 20 years teaching guys to put on mass, explosive power, big necks and big upper bodys, run in straight lines, but in college we did a few modules on soccer so heres a program Ive knocked up. Ive no expereince of it really but this is theoretical.

For Arsenal Id prefer a guy who has 20 years of soccer strength and conditiong or even in a discipline with some commonality to soccer (flexibility, aerobic ) and says heres a program.
How else would you explain Arsenals poor injury record. For me having a bunch of rugger heads (who spent their lives developing mini Jonah Lomus and now have to crack open some books to figure out what teh next generation of Arsenal soccer players need) is one of the factors.

Same old Arsenal, sure it will do attitude.
Expect to compete on elite European level with cheap knock off French imports, add a couple of world class players, a few homegrown players who the media hype and a few background staff we picked up from another unrelated sport.

No wonder the top European teams dont take us seriously , we dont even take ourselves seriously.

Sorry fella, but that's just nit-picking and an excuse to have a go at the club. So what if they're ex rugby professionals. If they are enforcing scientific approaches designed for soccer players, they could be ex-chess champions for all I care.

Look I agree the club is in a very poor state, from board level right down to pitch level, but I don't agree with you on this point, and I come from a background of quite an extensive knowledge of S&C.

emmetlego

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

my strength and conditioning coach for MMA Is the same coach for the Irish football team.

Remind me never to start on Ken Shamrock lads...

Colonialboy

ahh ffs its worse than I thought .

I knew ex-Munster rugger hugger Jerry Flannery was invovled but theres actually 4-5 rugby strength and conditioning coaches on our books..

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/johnny-o-connor
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/padraig-roche
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/noel-carroll

ahh seriously with all due respect on one resume we have this ..."After playing football for Cahir Park AFC and Tipperary" ,
so rocking up to face Messi, you will be getting advice from the lad who had a Munster Senior legue run in 2009 ...

I will concede a bit to your point (especially cos you do MMA) okay maybe 1 coach from Rugby might bring somethign to the equation, but 4... ffs..cmon Kenny , even you have to question that.

Im sure those guys are grand coaches and I respect their qualifications but if your going into soccer world go off and learn the trade and worked your way up, these lads have rolled into the Emirates and have no background in soccer and no association it seems with national soccer teams.

keano_afc

To be honest, as an ex rugby player, its nit-picking in the extreme to pick holes in our conditioning because some ex rugby players are involved.

greendom

keano_afc wrote: »

To be honest, as an ex rugby player, its nit-picking in the extreme to pick holes in our conditioning because some ex rugby players are involved.

I suppose it's on the field where it matters. Do we come up short compared to our competitors when it comes to intensity on the pitch?. Recruitment comes into this as well; conditioning only goes so far. Natural athleticism has a big part to play as well.

Roddy23

Originally Posted by Colonialboy View Post
Great and are you the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world yet.
And if you were the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world would you want all your strength and conditioning coaches to have a background in martial arts or similar disciplines or would you think you would still be sticking with the soccer coach. And Im talking on your full time paid books, not someone you draft in for a few aerobic sessions, Im talking permanent staff day in day out.

Personally I see very little overlap between rugbys strength and conditioning needs and soccers. Rugby big power run in more or less straight lines , soccer much less power, constantly changing direction.

Sure a rugby coach can say , here look Ive 20 years teaching guys to put on mass, explosive power, big necks and big upper bodys, run in straight lines, but in college we did a few modules on soccer so heres a program Ive knocked up. Ive no expereince of it really but this is theoretical.

For Arsenal Id prefer a guy who has 20 years of soccer strength and conditiong or even in a discipline with some commonality to soccer (flexibility, aerobic ) and says heres a program.
How else would you explain Arsenals poor injury record. For me having a bunch of rugger heads (who spent their lives developing mini Jonah Lomus and now have to crack open some books to figure out what teh next generation of Arsenal soccer players need) is one of the factors.

Same old Arsenal, sure it will do attitude.
Expect to compete on elite European level with cheap knock off French imports, add a couple of world class players, a few homegrown players who the media hype and a few background staff we picked up from another unrelated sport.

No wonder the top European teams dont take us seriously , we dont even take ourselves seriously.

Stength and conditioning coaches at Arsenal :- Shad Forsythe, Tony Colbert and Ben Antsworth.

You can see the full list here:-
http://www.arsenal.com/staff

Not one of those have worked in Rugby nevermind played it. They're all highly respected coaches with years of experience and the education to match it.

The likes of Jerry Flannery and Johnny O'Connor both worked at Arsenal on work placement as strength and conditioning coaches as they saw Arsenal as one of the leading teams for S&C. But don't let that get in the way of your bizarre argument.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/munster-legend-jerry-flannery-lands-arsenal-coaching-role-29387530.html

Colonialboy

ok so the story so far is

Arsenal reknowned for our poor injury record. Probably seen as the most injury prone club in the PL for the last 8 years anyways.
Maybe we have a problem Houston
Having a sniff around turns up 5 ex-Rugby players doing Arsenals strength and conditioning

nah cmomon consensus on here is its its nothing to do with any of the above.
Strength and conditioning for the worlds 7th richest soccer club , competing on the elite european stage against the great clubs of Europe can all be handled adequately by 5 ex-rugby players who have ZERO background in soccer. although one did play for Cahir AFC.

And dont say anything cos you might offend the ex-rugby players.
Or have a pop at the club ,cos well things are going so well there after all.

Smells like a Wenger stunt to me, heres your budget for coaches, and the head guy can only fill the positions with ex mates of his from the rugby world who have no soccer background but will come cheap all because they get to work at the Emirates.

Do you seriously thing the Van Gals, Ancelottis, Simeone, Rainieris, Contes of this world surrond themselves with a mafia of ex-rugby players expecting to deliver optimum team physical performance against the giants of Europe...seriously..

I wouldnt expect Munster, Leinster, Connacht , Ulster to hire 5 soccer coaches to codition their team.

Its not about dis-respecting other codes, its about horses for courses and if you want to change code, well then work your way up to the top.


by the way they are all listed as current employees.

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...ohnny-o-connor
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach.../padraig-roche
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...f/noel-carroll

I guess some dont want to let the facts of our repeated injury crisis and and loss of points cos of injuries get in the way of having a pop at a poster.
thats okay Im not like the ex-rugby fellas, Im not easily offended.

wandatowell

Id be very surprised if those lads had much time with the senior players.

Isnt it a "work experience" kinda thing for a few months for them.

Though they ain't the reason we are sh*t. Arsene is so........

Colonialboy

Roddy23 wrote: »

Stength and conditioning coaches at Arsenal :- Shad Forsythe, Tony Colbert and Ben Antsworth.

You can see the full list here:-
http://www.arsenal.com/staff

complete bollixx..none of them are listed as S&C coaches...Fitness Coach, Head of Performance and a physio..

we have been talking about strength and conditioning coaches n the Arsenal books, in case you hadnt noticed.

same for this work expereince rubbish, they are all listed as permanent staff

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...ohnny-o-connor Joined Arsenal June 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan Joined Arsenal February 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach.../padraig-roche Joined Arsenal July 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...f/noel-carroll Joined Arsenal July 2013

Ken Shamrock

Colonialboy wrote: »

Great and are you the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world yet.
And if you were the 7th richest MMA exponent in the world would you want all your strength and conditioning coaches to have a background in martial arts or similar disciplines or would you think you would still be sticking with the soccer coach. And Im talking on your full time paid books, not someone you draft in for a few aerobic sessions, Im talking permanent staff day in day out.

Personally I see very little overlap between rugbys strength and conditioning needs and soccers. Rugby big power run in more or less straight lines , soccer much less power, constantly changing direction.

Sure a rugby coach can say , here look Ive 20 years teaching guys to put on mass, explosive power, big necks and big upper bodys, run in straight lines, but in college we did a few modules on soccer so heres a program Ive knocked up. Ive no expereince of it really but this is theoretical.

For Arsenal Id prefer a guy who has 20 years of soccer strength and conditiong or even in a discipline with some commonality to soccer (flexibility, aerobic ) and says heres a program.
How else would you explain Arsenals poor injury record. For me having a bunch of rugger heads (who spent their lives developing mini Jonah Lomus and now have to crack open some books to figure out what teh next generation of Arsenal soccer players need) is one of the factors.

Same old Arsenal, sure it will do attitude.
Expect to compete on elite European level with cheap knock off French imports, add a couple of world class players, a few homegrown players who the media hype and a few background staff we picked up from another unrelated sport.

No wonder the top European teams dont take us seriously , we dont even take ourselves seriously.

Hahaha nah I'm not quite there yet... but In all seriousness our strength and conditioning Is perfectly fine, none of our players look out of shape and none of our players ever look exhausted. Pick something else to criticise because of everything that's available our strength and conditioning coaches are a pretty poor choice.

greendom

Colonialboy wrote: »

complete bollixx..none of them are listed as S&C coaches...Fitness Coach, Head of Performance and a physio..

we have been talking about strength and conditioning coaches n the Arsenal books, in case you hadnt noticed.

same for this work expereince rubbish, they are all listed as permanent staff

http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...ohnny-o-connor Joined Arsenal June 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coaching-staff/des-ryan Joined Arsenal February 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach.../padraig-roche Joined Arsenal July 2013
http://www.arsenal.com/academy/coach...f/noel-carroll Joined Arsenal July 2013

Unless my browser is playing up it seems like Des Bryan is the only one still there...

SlickRic

(i'm sure this is old) but i assume this is how you all feel at this stage?

L'prof

SlickRic wrote: »

(i'm sure this is old) but i assume this is how you all feel at this stage?

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13000171_1153765371349043_6190016516069648226_n.jpg?oh=1fe0794fd864b4303df2f81cb058d099&oe=57BFAF2B

And also this (I think it was linked in here already):

https://twitter.com/mikesanz19/status/718883368901984257

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

The meltdown in here is strong...and justifiably so...but just for a second think how poisonous it will be if Sp*rs go and win the league from here. It could happen. The "Emirates" could totally revolt on 15th of May. The place will be toxic.

Or we could hammer villa 5-0, all is well with Wenger, he gives the usual spiel where he says we only need one player maybe two to strengthen and make a real challenge next year.

And repeat.
And repeat.

omega man

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

The meltdown in here is strong...and justifiably so...but just for a second think how poisonous it will be if Sp*rs go and win the league from here. It could happen. The "Emirates" could totally revolt on 15th of May. The place will be toxic.

Or we could hammer villa 5-0, all is well with Wenger, he gives the usual spiel where he says we only need one player maybe two to strengthen and make a real challenge next year.

And repeat.
And repeat.

If they win tonight I'd put money on them winning the league. Leicester will do a Liverpool.

tayto lover

omega man wrote: »

If they win tonight I'd put money on them winning the league. Leicester will do a Liverpool.

Hate to say it but they're the best team in it this season.
Pocchitino has them playing great football. Average of 24 too.

JustTheOne

Would always come a time they would finish ahead. What can you do.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

JustTheOne wrote: »

Would always come a time they would finish ahead. What can you do.

Ahead of us, meh I don't care, they'd probably have a DVD out within days "the year we finished above arsenal"...

Winning it? I wouldn't like to see them win it. I don't even like saying that they have a better younger hungrier team than us.

mansize

Part of me would rather Spurs than Leicester - that whole contrived "fairytale" shyte and Vardy fawning annoys me.

There I said it

liam7831

mansize wrote: »

Part of me would rather Spurs than Leicester - that whole contrived "fairytale" shyte and Vardy fawning annoys me.

There I said it

Me too, like 99% of fans on here are not from London so i cant see why they would have a dislike for Spurs over other teams. I have much more of a dislike for Liverpool as their fans are insufferable

mansize

liam7831 wrote: »

Me too, like 99% of fans on here are not from London so i cant see why they would have a dislike for Spurs over other teams. I have much more of a dislike for Liverpool as their fans are insufferable

Man United and Liverpool fans do my nut in. Get over it. You live in Ireland ffs. Getting so worked up over the slightest perceived affront to your team! And every thread on soccer forum ends up as a pîssing contest between them

Quazzie

mansize wrote: »

Part of me would rather Spurs than Leicester - that whole contrived "fairytale" shyte and Vardy fawning annoys me.

There I said it

Vardy is as unlikable an asshole as there is, but I'd still rather Leicester win it. It's good for football as a whole if they win it.

mansize

Quazzie wrote: »

Vardy is as unlikable an asshole as there is, but I'd still rather Leicester win it. It's good for football as a whole if they win it.

How though? From 17th to 1st??? Spurs is much more believeable

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Agreed. Liverpool supporters are the most insufferable. Holier than thou attitude, better than everybody attitude. The year they nearly won it...that would have been worse than Spurs winning it this year for sure.

Jesus Christ the Liverpool/Dortmund love in for the last few weeks would make you bring your breakfast back up.

I'm even warming to united fans :pac:

mansize

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

Agreed. Liverpool supporters are the most insufferable. Holier than thou attitude, better than everybody attitude. The year they nearly won it...that would have been worse than Spurs winning it this year for sure.

Jesus Christ the Liverpool/Dortmund love in for the last few weeks would make you bring your breakfast back up.

I'm even warming to united fans :pac:

Knockout competitions seem to be their forte- then they can go on ad nauseam about it for ages

Colonialboy

The Hunky Monster wrote: »

The meltdown in here is strong...and justifiably so...but just for a second think how poisonous it will be if Sp*rs go and win the league from here. It could happen. The "Emirates" could totally revolt on 15th of May. The place will be toxic.

Or we could hammer villa 5-0, all is well with Wenger, he gives the usual spiel where he says we only need one player maybe two to strengthen and make a real challenge next year.

And repeat.
And repeat.

dont forget we have to listen to the
repeat ..... what about the Stadium
repeat ..... Wengers hands are tied
repeat ..... lets celebrate 4th place (we just set the record for successive last 16 exits)
repeat ..... cant compete with the oil money
repeat ..... Wenger knows how to spot players what about Henry (that was 17 years ago)
repeat ..... the players (he bought) let him down
repeat ..... it was very cold
repeat ..... too much pressure
repeat ..... the fans let us down
repeat ..... injurys arent the fault of the backroom staff
repeat ..... Wengers a financial wizard (just a mean **** who wont spend the 200 million in the bank, 15 million spent in the last 8 transfer windows)
repeat ..... we won nothing before Wenger arrived
repeat ..... The Invincibles (that was 13 years ago)
repeat ..... Wenger invented total football (RIP JC)
repeat ..... Wengers a tactical genius feared by the the might of Europe
repeat ..... you cant slag off Wenger
repeat ..... give him another year
repeat ..... theres no manager out there to replace him
repeat ..... theres no player available worth his place in the Arsenal squad
repeat ..... Giroud is a world class striker (Wenger compares him to Benzema and Lewandovski)
repeat ..... Coquelin is the best DM in the PL (yep Real and Barca are banging he door down for him)
repeat ..... if you knock the teams performance your a moaner (Watford, Shef Wed, 2 points clear of Leicester in Jan, CL spanking)
repeat ..... bollix bollix bollix