Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

mansize

Yikes really need a win, United on a rich vein of form

Quazzie

Jaafa wrote: »

After how this season has turned out I've finally accepted the fact that Wenger needs to move on. But reading this makes me so sad that he does. For gods sake lads give him the respect he deserves when he does go: http://arseblog.com/2016/04/when/

Just tonight, my 8 year old son came to me excited because he traded for the Arsene Wenger Match Attacks (Topps) card. He asked me about him because he hasn't really taken to football (yet). I told him that Wenger was Arsenal's manager, and I left it that, because I didn't feel he deserved anything more said. That feeling was brought on by my current feelings about Wenger. I hate that his stubborness and unwillingness (inability?) to change is costing us title(s). This year was the year for us, and he screwed us over. I hate him for that.

After reading that article though, I'm ashamed of myself. Arsene Wenger, despite his current standings in my heart, is still the greatest manager to ever grace our club, and we have had some great ones down the years. He deserves more than just a curt and glib response, and tomorrow I'm gonna go through that article with my son, and show him all the clips, and explain how special it all was. Then I'll explain how it was all down to one man.

omega man

mansize wrote: »

Yikes really need a win, United on a rich vein of form

Not really bothered about top 4, I'm that annoyed with the whole set up. The way this season has gone we'll finish 4th with city 5th but winning the CL and pool the Europa.

tayto lover

Don't forget to tell him that he's the highest paid manager in the EPl (7m a year) and is not delivering too.
We must keep our perspective.

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

Don't forget to tell him that he's the highest paid manager in the EPl (7m a year) and is not delivering too.
We must keep our perspective.

I'm probably the first on here to want him out You can search my history to prove that if you like.

None of it changes the past though and the fact that this man has brought us years of enjoyment with this club. Some of us were here before Wenger. I myself started supporting the club when George Graham was at the helm. Some were here long before that, yourself Tayto included. For a few though their only memories of Arsenal, are of days of glory and passion provided by Monsieur Wenger. We can't deny him that, and neither should we. We can be as critical of his current status in the club, and a lot of other things beside, but lets not allow us to forget the glory, passion and love that he created for the club in so many fans for years and years over. Let's not allow his current failings rewrite the past.

tayto lover

Quazzie wrote: »

I'm probably the first on here to want him out You can search my history to prove that if you like.

None of it changes the past though and the fact that this man has brought us years of enjoyment with this club. Some of us were here before Wenger. I myself started supporting the club when George Graham was at the helm. Some were here long before that, yourself Tayto included. For a few though there only memories of Arsenal, are of days of glory and passion provided by Monsieur Wenger. We can't him that, and neither should we. We can be as critical of his current status in the club, and a lot of other things beside, but lets not allow us to forget the glory, passion and love that he created for the club in so many fans for years and years over. Let's not allow his current failings rewrite the past.

Ah i'm only messing really. He was great and fair play to him for that. Unfortunately he has become institutionalised and has lost his mojo. He should have gone a few years ago. Now he is only ruining his own legacy.

mansize

He is the club's most successful manager.

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

He is the club's most successful manager.

Yes. He's there a lot longer than George Graham was.

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

Yes. He's there a lot longer than George Graham was.

Yep, didn't break the rules like George,

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

Yep, didn't break the rules like George,

Didn't really matter to the fans though. "one nil to the Arsenal".:D

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

Didn't really matter to the fans though. "one nil to the Arsenal".:D

His football was awful. Who needs a midfield?

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

His football was awful. Who needs a midfield?

I was a defender. I loved it. " give the ball to Georgie Armstrong on the wing".

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

I was a defender. I loved it. " give the ball to Georgie Armstrong on the wing".

So you loved the old offiside trap trick??? Good times!



Luckily his permanent successor signed our best ever player!

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

So you loved the old offiside trap trick??? Good times!



Luckily his permanent successor signed our best ever player!

There would be a big debate over who was our best ever player i'd say.
For me it was Bergkamp who was signed by Bruce Rioch.

Soups123

Quazzie wrote: »

Just tonight, my 8 year old son came to me excited because he traded for the Arsene Wenger Match Attacks (Topps) card. He asked me about him because he hasn't really taken to football (yet). I told him that Wenger was Arsenal's manager, and I left it that, because I didn't feel he deserved anything more said. That feeling was brought on by my current feelings about Wenger. I hate that his stubborness and unwillingness (inability?) to change is costing us title(s). This year was the year for us, and he screwed us over. I hate him for that.

After reading that article though, I'm ashamed of myself. Arsene Wenger, despite his current standings in my heart, is still the greatest manager to ever grace our club, and we have had some great ones down the years. He deserves more than just a curt and glib response, and tomorrow I'm gonna go through that article with my son, and show him all the clips, and explain how special it all was. Then I'll explain how it was all down to one man.

It's a bit like the add on TV about the car crash 'don't lose a lifetime looking back'

We've lost enough seasons now with Wenger looking back at past glories, it's time to go end of

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

There would be a big debate over who was our best ever player i'd say.
For me it was Bergkamp who was signed by Bruce Rioch.

So we agree on something!

tayto lover

mansize wrote: »

So we agree on something!

I'd say we agree on a lot.

Ol' Donie

tayto lover wrote: »

There would be a big debate over who was our best ever player i'd say.
For me it was Bergkamp who was signed by Bruce Rioch.

Ray Parlour, for me.

Well, not really, but i'd give my right arm to have him in the team this season.

Dennis or Henry for me. Probably Dennis. No, wait, Henry. No, wait...

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Ray Parlour, for me.

Well, not really, but i'd give my right arm to have him in the team this season.

Dennis or Henry for me. Probably Dennis. No, wait, Henry. No, wait...

Henry's sulk prior to Barca move tarnishes it for me

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Ray Parlour, for me.

Well, not really, but i'd give my right arm to have him in the team this season.

Dennis or Henry for me. Probably Dennis. No, wait, Henry. No, wait...

I don't think a lot of those players (Parlour) would make it in the current BPL

very mediocre English players with no international pedigree

Ol' Donie

mansize wrote: »

Henry's sulk prior to Barca move tarnishes it for me

The one on one he missed in the CL final...aaargh, jesus...

Then of course Dennis missing a peno against United in 99...ugh i feel sick thinking about how different it could all be...

Why am i thinking about this??

mansize

Soups123 wrote: »

It's a bit like the add on TV about the car crash 'don't lose a lifetime looking back'

We've lost enough seasons now with Wenger looking back at past glories, it's time to go end of

/grabs guitar...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OipmKFDeM

Ol' Donie

mansize wrote: »

I don't think a lot of those players (Parlour) would make it in the current BPL

very mediocre English players with no international pedigree

He didn't have international pedigree, but he did have studs. Ask any of his opponents.

tayto lover

Ol' Donie wrote: »

The one on one he missed in the CL final...aaargh, jesus...

Then of course Dennis missing a peno against United in 99...ugh i feel sick thinking about how different it could all be...

Why am i thinking about this??

Never mind the English players. Liam Brady, one of our own, was up there with the best.

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

He didn't have international pedigree, but he did have studs. Ask any of his opponents.

It would be like Flamini - doesn't work nowadays- he'd be always suspended if he could catch up to them!!!

mansize

tayto lover wrote: »

Never mind the English players. Liam Brady, one of our own, was up there with the best.

I was in nappies at that time

Ol' Donie

mansize wrote: »

It would be like Flamini - doesn't work nowadays- he'd be always suspended if he could catch up to them!!!

Ah, here!

He was better than Flamini in every aspect of the game!

tayto lover

D'ya see what you started now Quazzie?? :pac::pac:

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Ah, here!

He was better than Flamini in every aspect of the game!

It's only Ray Parlour...

Quazzie

tayto lover wrote: »

D'ya see what you started now Quazzie?? :pac::pac:

Let us all join hands and remember the glory days

*kumbaya me lord, kumbaya*

mansize

Quazzie wrote: »

Let us all join hands and remember the glory days

*kumbaya me lord, kumbaya*

Remember '98!

Noo

mansize wrote: »

Remember '98!

Ah '98, when i got accused of only being an arsenal fan because they were winning stuff.

Ol' Donie

Noo wrote: »

Ah '98, when i got accused of only being an arsenal fan because they were winning stuff.

Ah, it's a while since anybody asked me how long I've been an Arsenal fan.

mansize

Now all you get is pity... from a guy in a Chelsea... City scarf...

remember when all those united heads started supporting RK Sunderland cos fergie hadn't won the league in 3 years...

Ol' Donie

mansize wrote: »

Now all you get is pity... from a guy in a Chelsea... City scarf...

Pity from those guys? F*ck them!

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Pity from those guys? F*ck them!

I throw shade at them

Ol' Donie

mansize wrote: »

It's only Ray Parlour...

I'm so angry we lost that cup game to Watford. Obviously i wanted the league, but I love cup final day when we're in it. And it was there for the taking. F***in eejits. Gabriel cost us by defending like someone you have to talk into playing when you're short of numbers for 5 a side, and Welbz missing an absolute sitter.

mansize

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I'm so angry we lost that cup game to Watford. Obviously i wanted the league, but I love cup final day when we're in it. And it was there for the taking. F***in eejits. Gabriel cost us by defending like someone you have to talk into playing when you're short of numbers for 5 a side, and Welbz missing an absolute sitter.

I just expected us to win that game - I was shocked when we hadn't! I expected Arsenal to contest their third FA cup final in 3 years!!!

That was a sure sign the wheels had come off the wagon

It'll cost me 40 bastard quid if we fail to stay ahead of United.

Noo

mansize wrote: »

I just expected us to win that game - I was shocked when we hadn't! I expected Arsenal to contest their third FA cup final in 3 years!!!

That was a sure sign the wheels had come off the wagon

You think thats bad....im over in australia so its very easy to be forgetful when it comes to matches, i didnt realise the hull replay and the watford game were so close and i completely missed the watford game! Up until last week i assumed we were still in the fa cup!

Texas Jack

So Giroud tonight lads.

Likely starter?

L'prof

Texas Jack wrote: »

So Giroud tonight lads.

Likely starter?

Who cares at this stage? Welbeck not playing great but still nowhere near as bad as Giroud was before he was dropped!

gandalf

I see on a Arseblog article that Wenger has stated again that he always sees out a contract. So he isn't going to do the honourable thing and we already know the owners won't move against him either unless we drop the CL spot. If that happens then we will be a far less attractive proposition for the calibre of manager that is needed. I hate living in interesting times!

L'prof

gandalf wrote: »

I see on a Arseblog article that Wenger has stated again that he always sees out a contract. So he isn't going to do the honourable thing and we already know the owners won't move against him either unless we drop the CL spot. If that happens then we will be a far less attractive proposition for the calibre of manager that is needed. I hate living in interesting times!

I don't believe this part is true at all. van Gaal to United and Klopp to Liverpool, Conte to Chelsea being 3 recent examples of highly regarded managers moving to English clubs without CL football.

wandatowell

Arsene is on 8 million a year, their ain't many managers on more than him so id argue that his job would be hugely sought after.

wandatowell

wandatowell wrote: »

Arsene is on 8 million a year, their ain't many managers on more than him so id argue that his job would be hugely sought after.

I doubt a new manager will expect to be paid the same as Arsene.

Texas Jack

L'prof wrote: »

Who cares at this stage? Welbeck not playing great but still nowhere near as bad as Giroud was before he was dropped!

I brought Giroud into my Fantasy team as a possible differential so hoping he'll start

Texas Jack

Texas Jack wrote: »

I brought Giroud into my Fantasy team as a possible differential so hoping he'll start

Come back to me at 6:45pm :pac:

Seriously though, he'll probably get a start.

greendom

wandatowell wrote: »

Arsene is on 8 million a year, their ain't many managers on more than him so id argue that his job would be hugely sought after.

The financial restraints (or lack of) will have a huge part to play in who we can attract.

jonneymendoza

such a dead club.

apparently there are loads of spare tickets left for tonight