Sing Street

RainyDay

Radiotower wrote: »

Father was abusing her - he died + mother in and out of hospital - she moved into girls home - started going out with Genesis guy - he started beating her up = Fresh bruise

Yes - fully agree. And my point earlier was that

I really didn't like her comment that she deserved to be beaten. It may have been a symptom of her past, but sends the wrong message to young girls.

CiDeRmAn

RainyDay wrote: »

Yes - fully agree. And my point earlier was that

I really didn't like her comment that she deserved to be beaten. It may have been a symptom of her past, but sends the wrong message to young girls.

I don't think you get it,

She was representing an all too common response from people that are subject to abuse. It wasn't supposed to be sending a message to young girls that you just have to live with it, instead it is supposed to be a wake up call that this was something people once thought they had to endure.
The film also refrained from doing the "Hollywood" thing and have her get some kind of justice for her treatment, more realistically the boyfriend fecked off to find sex elsewhere and her dad died as result of abusing his liver.

It's more important that we see relatively realistic portrayals of women in these situations, rather than suggesting that women in the media must always be seen to report their abuser and then receive justice. This simply doesn't happen all the time now and it certainly wasn't prevalent in the 80's. Also, it is healthier that people get to see someone blaming themselves for their abusers actions, because we can see how wrong that is and people, who themselves are in that position, can better identify with those they see and act to better their situation.
What's the point in being abused, thinking you are worthless and then only seeing the strong gaining justice for themselves, how can you identify with a strong person onscreen when you yourself feel like you are weak and deserving of your treatment?

RainyDay

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It's more important that we see relatively realistic portrayals of women in these situations, rather than suggesting that women in the media must always be seen to report their abuser and then receive justice. This simply doesn't happen all the time now and it certainly wasn't prevalent in the 80's. Also, it is healthier that people get to see someone blaming themselves for their abusers actions, because we can see how wrong that is and people, who themselves are in that position, can better identify with those they see and act to better their situation.
What's the point in being abused, thinking you are worthless and then only seeing the strong gaining justice for themselves, how can you identify with a strong person onscreen when you yourself feel like you are weak and deserving of your treatment?

I didn't say anything about reporting or getting justice. I just suggested that her glib comment gives a strong indication that she feels it is acceptable to be hit, and no-one else challenged this or contradicted this.

I'm not looking for a happy or a just ending, but this one was left hanging in the air - unacceptable to me.

Sad Professor

I don't have an issue with the line in itself. It's in character for her to say it and in keeping with the period for no one to challenge it. However, I wish Carney had shown us more of her character's experiences instead of having her tell us. She hasn't much to do beyond being the object of the main character's affections. A troubled romantic interest but still just a romantic interest.

MetalDog

Just saw it there, enjoyed it but it would have been better if

the ferry had crushed their boat at the end

edbrez

They would have got crushed anyway over in London. Countless new Irish bands made the same journey in the 1980s and were promptly never heard from again.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Saw it this afternoon, thought the music was amazing. Not a huge fan of Once but I really like Begin Again, this seems somewhere in the middle.

Someone mentioned they'd have preferred if the brother had been the main focus and someone else said they wished Raphina had been fleshed out a bit more. I agree with these, in theory, but then you've got a completely different film, maybe more like Begin Again in a lot of ways.

This one was obviously meant to be Carney's own life story, albeit a slightly fantastical version.

I loved Zonad, for what it's worth, I thought it was brilliantly ridiculous. The scene in Sing Street where he imagines the Prom thing reminded me of it a bit.

Mantis Toboggan

Enjoyed it, bit soppy in places but overall it works well. I wouldn't mind a sequel in which the brother is the main character. Regarding his accent, didn't he grow up in Ireland? It's a proper accent in my book, as for rahfina, not so much.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Enjoyed it, bit soppy in places but overall it works well. I wouldn't mind a sequel in which the brother is the main character. Regarding his accent, didn't he grow up in Ireland? It's a proper accent in my book, as for rahfina, not so much.

He did. Think he was 2 when they moved back to Ireland. He grew up in Wicklow as far as I know and he did go to a fee paying school but it was Belvo, which is on the North Side and wouldn't really be known for having the same kind of accent as the likes of Blackrock. It's definitely a bit of a strange one but it is very much his natural accent.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Did the lad playing Conor remind anyone else of....

Chain Smoker

RE: Carney, is Bachelor's Walk remembered fondly? I really liked it, seemed really well cast first and foremostk but I haven't seen it in about 10 years.

Zonad was a baffling disaster altogether, mind. Amazing how he was able to sweep that under the rug

Chain Smoker

Chain Smoker wrote: »

RE: Carney, is Bachelor's Walk remembered fondly? I really liked it, seemed really well cast first and foremostk but I haven't seen it in about 10 years.

Zonad was a baffling disaster altogether, mind. Amazing how he was able to sweep that under the rug

I liked Bachelors Walk, to the best of my recollection! I went about trying to find it online to watch it, to no avail.

ktulu123

Saw this last night. Absolutely loved it.

xabi_a

Saw it tonight and liked it, although I also thought it faded and got a bit too cheesy in the second half.

I went to Synge St. in the 80s too, so many things were spot on! The yard, the classroom, the school hall, even the canteen, all were the real deal, on location. And St. Kevin's park nearby. And the line with something like "there's a black guy in 3b" - totally authentic. I like it when a film is real, and they don't have people being magically teleported from one place to another.

And actually there was a black guy a year or two ahead of me, and he looked quite similar to Ngig.

Edit: having said that, it seems the "St. Kevin's park" scene is not there at all, it's St. Catherine's park, in another part of the city. Ah well!

MilesMorales1

I liked it a lot, liked the music as well. I seen it with a family member and they hated it which was quite funny.

Telecaster58

MetalDog wrote: »

Just saw it there, enjoyed it but it would have been better if

the ferry had crushed their boat at the end

Ha Ha Ha. Real cynical

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Went to see this this afternoon. Really enjoyed it - a great feel good film. Will try to catch it again before it exits the cinemas...

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Looper007 wrote: »

Zonad was awful.

I was part of the focus group for Zonad and the cut they showed us (about 6 months before the film was released) was actually really decent and everyone in the focus group (circa 50 people) really enjoyed it, but then whatever notes they got from the studio or whatever within those 6 months ended up ruining it altogether, because when I went to see the general release in the cinema it was almost an entirely different film (with a lot of the humour that made the focus group edit really work cut out entirely, the narrative completely re-arranged, and extra scenes that added nothing thrown in at the last minute).

I think if the original version had been released, a lot of people would've really enjoyed it, but what ended up making it to the final cut was crap.

edbrez

So what happened to The Rafters?

Conor Bourke

Saw it yesterday, needed something light and feel-good after a grim few days previous at work.

Really enjoyed it though the ending was a bit weak imo, as if he'd run out of ideas and didn't know quite how to tie it up.

Jack Reynor's accent was mildly annoying but Raphina's bugged the sh!t out of me. Is she a dub? ("J'yeh wan' fries wi' dah'" when talking about the potential prospect of having to work in McDonalds) Is she English? Is she American? Is the whole put-on accent supposed to be part of her character trying to escape where she came from or is she just not a very good actress?

Those two rants aside, I'd still watch it again and would have no hesitations in recommending it to others.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Cornelius Crow wrote: »

Jack Reynor's accent was mildly annoying but Raphina's bugged the sh!t out of me. Is she a dub? ("J'yeh wan' fries wi' dah'" when talking about the potential prospect of having to work in McDonalds) Is she English? Is she American? Is the whole put-on accent supposed to be part of her character trying to escape where she came from or is she just not a very good actress?
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The actress playing Raphina is English so she was putting on an Irish accent, that's why it was a bit dodgy. The Dublin bit when talking about working in McDonalds was, I assume, supposed to be a reference to the "type" of person who would end up working in McDonalds.

Sad Professor

Raphina wants to go to England, so maybe she has English connections that would explain the accent. And Reynor's character went to a private school, thus a D4-ish accent.

<shrugs>

Conor Bourke

Sad Professor wrote: »

Raphina wants to go to England, so maybe she has English connections that would explain the accent. And Reynor's character went to a private school, thus a D4-ish accent.

<shrugs>

Yeah I got that, the accent in general grates on me as opposed to thinking it was incongruous with the character.

Raphina's though... I just couldn't cope with it. It was just too fluctuant and inauthentic for me.

As I said, neither took enough away from the film to bother me that much, I'll still watch it again.

Bowlardo

Sad Professor wrote: »

Raphina wants to go to England, so maybe she has English connections that would explain the accent. And Reynor's character went to a private school, thus a D4-ish accent.

<shrugs>

That accent did not exist anywhere in the 80's...i'm fairly sure of that

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Bowlardo wrote: »

That accent did not exist anywhere in the 80's...i'm fairly sure of that

John Carney himself has a weird D4 hybrid accent. I'm sure he hasn't developed it recently.

Sad Professor

The D4 accent originated in the '70s. I mean, Bob Geldof anyone? It just didn't become a flogging horse until the '90s and 00s, which probably only caused it to spread further. It's been almost ridiculed out of existence at this stage. Most of the people still speaking this way aren't from D4.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Sad Professor wrote: »

The D4 accent originated in the '70s. I mean, Bob Geldof anyone? It just didn't become a flogging horse until the '90s and 00s, which probably only caused it to spread further. It's been almost ridiculed out of existence at this stage. Most of the people still speaking this way aren't from D4.

I noticed that. It's almost become a universal accent for people of a certain age, this weird hybrid D4/American accent. Unless they're from some very specific parts of Dublin most people between 16 and 25ish seem to have this same weird accent.

Looper007

Chain Smoker wrote: »

RE: Carney, is Bachelor's Walk remembered fondly? I really liked it, seemed really well cast first and foremostk but I haven't seen it in about 10 years.

Zonad was a baffling disaster altogether, mind. Amazing how he was able to sweep that under the rug

Loved Bachelors Walk, have the first season DVD but they didn't release the following two seasons cause of Music rights I believe. I thought it really peaked after the first season though which was one of the best things RTE ever done.

Onto Sing Street, I loved it and came out with a smile. Sure it has it's problems aside from the main characters writing partner and guitarist, the other band members were badly underwritten and the ending I thought was a little cheesy

I personally would have ended the girls story arc with that park scene, showing that her character wasn't as cool and mysterious and would probably be a dreamer rather then a doer. Thought them running off to London on a sailing boat a little silly. Would have been better if Cosmo and his songwriting mater ran off to London maybes that's just me

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Lucy Boynton, beside the odd slightly slipping from her Dublin accent, is going to be a big star. She reminds me a bit of Felicty Jones. I thought Jack Reynor as the older stoner brother was great and the lead lad who played Cosmo was very good. Loved the songs too very catchy.

The soundtrack was awesome too.

Bowlardo

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

John Carney himself has a weird D4 hybrid accent. I'm sure he hasn't developed it recently.

Is it not too strong to be honest. Seems normal enough to me. seems like a sound devil just from watch some interviews of him

Sad Professor wrote: »

The D4 accent originated in the '70s. I mean, Bob Geldof anyone? It just didn't become a flogging horse until the '90s and 00s, which probably only caused it to spread further. It's been almost ridiculed out of existence at this stage. Most of the people still speaking this way aren't from D4.

Ah here Bob is in his own little world.

bodhrandude

Saw this last night in Clonakilty and was very impressed, a great eye for detail and the pop music genres of the late seventies and early to mid eighties. This is completely different from The Commitments and is a nice quirky feel good comedy, the only resemblance to the other flick is that both were filmed in Dublin. Personally I found the guy playing the Commitments manager to be irritating after a while plus it had Glen Hansard in it, but both films are great in their own right. I wouldn't have a notion about accents apart from some Dubs sounding like Americans, Fade Street etc. Go and check it out, a refreshing look at pop music and fashion from the mid 1980s.

edbrez

bodhrandude wrote: »

Personally I found the guy playing the Commitments manager to be irritating after a while plus it had Glen Hansard in it,

Shame there was no song on the soundtrack from 1980's band Anastasia screamed. Audiences might notice the similarity with Hansard's band The Frames!

PTH2009

loved the music but thought the story lacked a bit and the acting was below par.

few questions

were they trying to emply that the brother was going to rape Cosmo when he told him he could use his bathroom to wash off his makeup ??? and thats a reason why cosmo left

Theres no mention of 2 of Dublins biggest bands u2 and Thin lizzy or even much mention of other irish bands ???

Thought the cliche of the daffy/awkward characters that played the Bass and drums was stupid. the black character was pointless i think and was only put in to show how non diverse ireland was in the 80's.

Id put 'Killing Bono' ahead of this(which had very similar settings and character types like sing street imo) and Once was miles better than this. Bachelors Walk was genius and would rank in the same league as Love/Hate and Pure Mule.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

PTH2009 wrote: »

loved the music but thought the story lacked a bit and the acting was below par.

Id put 'Killing Bono' ahead of this(which had very similar settings and character types like sing street imo) and Once was miles better than this. Bachelors Walk was genius and would rank in the same league as Love/Hate and Pure Mule.

And what league would that be? I wouldn't even out those 3 programs in the same league.

Love/Hate is/was rubbish. Pure Mule was middling to poor. Bachelor's walk was decent enough.

edbrez

PTH2009 wrote: »

Id put 'Killing Bono' ahead of this(which had very similar settings and character types like sing street imo)

No one seen Last bus home?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVOaAf2K4SE

A Dub in Glasgo

Saw this tonight and very much enjoyed it, some of the songs were excellent and should be released.

I thought they were going to turn back at the end as the idea of reaching Holyhead in that boat was ridiculous

MilesMorales1

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Saw this tonight and very much enjoyed it, some of the songs were excellent and should be released.

I thought they were going to turn back at the end as the idea of reaching Holyhead in that boat was ridiculous

The soundtrack is on Spotify.

edbrez

The soundtrack in on sale in Golden Discs.

CatFromHue

imperfect film, but perfect feeling leaving the cinema

homerun_homer

Finally saw this last night. I really enjoyed it, it's not perfect but it's got a great soundtrack, good tunes for the lads in the band and easy watching. The references to abuse were so light that I questioned whether I was supposed to interpret one or two of them as references to that or not. Obviously with Rephina it was clearer than one or two other references.

The ending was absolute dog sh!t though. It spoiled it but I'd still rewatch whenever it's on telly. It could have easily been a better ending. Plus

Let's see yer man write a tune without his songwriting partner if they make it to England.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

homerun_homer wrote: »

The ending was absolute dog sh!t though. It spoiled it but I'd still rewatch whenever it's on telly. It could have easily been a better ending. Plus

Let's see yer man write a tune without his songwriting partner if they make it to England.

I don't think it spoiled the whole film but the ending was pretty poor. I know it was all a bit of wish fulfillment and all that but I thought

once the ferry nearly ran over them they'd have turned around and gone back, still happy in the knowledge that they tried.

I think I could have coped with that.

MatCon

He was black and mixed race from birth...and still is.

edbrez wrote: »

He might be mixed-race now but he was black in 1985. Nothing sadder than looking back 30 years earlier wearing politically-correct goggles.

gucci

I went to see this at the weekend, as for some reason the UK release was only last week.

I watched the trailer for this months ago and thought it had good potential as being a lighthearted fun movie. It didn't quite tick all the boxes for me. I don't want to be overly critical as I sort of knew what to expect. The set up and premise was reasonable, with enough gags and charm to battle through the rough bits, but I think the movie really flagged in the second half.

Essentially it felt like a movie about 15/16 year old kids, that was written by 15/16 year old kids.

The ending was not really a shock as it had veered off course alot at that stage, however the cheese element could have been almost palatable for me if they had

Just got on the boat and fade to black, as opposed to having what seemed like 5 minutes terrible blue screen acting, which might have been fun to shoot but looked ridiculous and added nothing.

Slydice

This film was brilliant!

97% on Rotten Tomatoes from 134 Critics
95% on Rotten Tomatoes from 8,047 User Ratings
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sing_street/

8.2/10 from 5,403 on IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3544112/

79% on Metacritic from ‎37 reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/sing-street

micks_address

Watched last night and really enjoyed...

pappyodaniel

Aidan Gillen and Maria Doyle Kennedy were terribly utilised in this film.

Such a waste of 2 fine actors.

MilesMorales1

It's supposed to be about teenagers forming a band and teenage love and all that. Not adult veteran actors hogging the limelight.

david75

Saw this last night and loved it. Music was brilliant and the leads all played their parts perfectly too. And didn't expect it to be as funny. Especially all school stuff and banter between the lads in the band

Like a bad cover version, Sing Street is like every other coming of age story centered around music and like so many cover versions it comes across as a pale imitation of what came before.

Carney proves once and for all that he's a one trick pony and is happy to simply repeated the past. Sing Street, Once, Begin Again, all three are based around many of the same ideas and use music in similar ways, only here the music feels like those cover versions you hear in Tesco and the like, that kind that sound just similar enough that royalties don't have to be paid. Perhaps Carney was trying to say something about the nature of fame or how young people are so desperate for an identity that they copy others to fit in, each time that band hear a new band their next song sounds like a carbon copy. It's a nice idea but just feels hollow here.

There's a lot of heart to be found here, it's just that so little of it is interesting. The performances are good, though the younger cast do mumble most of their lines and could do with a few acting classes, though to be fair much of this could be down to the rather banal script that hasn't so much as a single original idea. And the less said about the dreadful ending the better, it's beyond bad and leaves a rather sour taste.

Sing Street is spirited, it thinks it has a lot to say but it's all rather hollow and empty and feels like a film written for American audiences. In fact, were it a band it could easily be one manufactured simply to perform on the likes of X-Factor.

david75

bit harsh.

Sleepy

I enjoyed it for what it was. Jack Reynor stole the movie from under the leads though, most interesting character in the movie by a long way.