Sharapova Acute angina!

funnights74

It's only a matter of time before there are positive tests in rugby, the very nature of the sport demands huge physical output and unnatural powers of recovery. Wasn't Paul kimmage supposed to pen Brian O Driscolls auto-biography but when Kimmage approached the subject of drugs in rugby he was dropped like a hot potatoe.

Alf Veedersane

funnights74 wrote: »

Wasn't Paul kimmage supposed to pen Brian O Driscolls auto-biography but when Kimmage approached the subject of drugs in rugby he was dropped like a hot potatoe.

Was nothing to do with drugs. He'd asked O'Driscoll to do an interview with him for the Sindo not long after he'd got his job there and O'Driscoll did it for the Times instead so Kimmage was put out.

It was a French doctor and former player, Lauren Benezech who brought up the issue of drugs in rugby last year which Kimmage wrote about ad well.

Fuentes implicated soccer and tennis players on the Operacion Puerto case a couple of years ago but nothing came of it.

There will always be someone willing to take whatever might give them that extra percent that might make a difference.

K-9

Gatling wrote: »

Should have happend during the Armstrong investigation wasn't there a situation where blood apparently from players in the Spanish leagues were found in the Doctor's lab involved in the blood doping scandal when the anti doping agency wanted to test the blood to identify who the bloods belonged to ,a Spanish judge ordered the bloods be destroyed .

Been rumours about various teams for years

IIRC the samples from the football players were ordered to be destroyed by the judge but it turned out a few months back that they hadn't. AFAIK they are trying to get them released.

K-9

BattleCorp wrote: »

I never liked Sharapova. Her grunting was enough to put me off her. That said, the way people are going on about it, you'd think she murdered 1000 kids.

She took a drug that 19 days earlier was legal but wasn't on the day she was tested. Big deal. Give her a ban and move on.

Why do you think it is banned?

It's performance enhancing, banned in the US and seems to be common in Russia in particular. Guys who know about this drug say you'd be on it for 4-6 weeks, not 10 years.

BattleCorp

K-9 wrote: »

Why do you think it is banned?

I don't know anything about the drug but I'll take the word of the experts and agree with them that it is banned because it is performance enhancing.

It's performance enhancing, banned in the US and seems to be common in Russia in particular. Guys who know about this drug say you'd be on it for 4-6 weeks, not 10 years.

And for 10 years Maria Sharapova did absolutely nothing wrong in taking this drug because it wasn't on the banned list. Yes, it probably was enhancing her performance, but there was nothing in the rules against her using it.

She broke the rules for 18 days, not for 10 years.

Now, she did break the rules for 18 days so she'll have to pay the price for that.

Alf Veedersane

It's essentially the same as when Balco were designing drugs to have the same physiological impact as PEDs but which wouldn't be flagged in a drug test.

Meldonium was taken for being performance enhancing and because it hadn't been added to the banned list.

osarusan

BBC did a great documentary on doping last year. The article by the journalist involved is well worth a read. He doped himself with EPO and tested himself to WADA 'biological passport' standard with a secret WADA source - came up clean although he 100% knew he was taking EPO.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932

paleoperson

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's essentially the same as when Balco were designing drugs to have the same physiological impact as PEDs but which wouldn't be flagged in a drug test.

The BALCO scandal is a scandal involving the use of banned, performance-enhancing substances by professional athletes. The Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO) was a San Francisco Bay Area business which supplied anabolic steroids to professional athletes. The incident surrounds a 2002 US Federal government investigation of the laboratory.[1]

Arnold created a wide range of substances, that when used in a cycle could go relatively undetected by drug testing, even on the Olympic level. Five different types of drugs along with mineral supplements were used to achieve optimum results. Types of drugs include erythropoietin, human growth hormone, modafinil, testosterone cream, and tetrahydrogestrinone. Erythropoietin or EPO is a hormone naturally produced by the kidneys that stimulates erythropoiesis. Originally used to treat anemia, when artificially introduced to the body EPO stimulates an increased production of red blood cells enhancing the body's ability to transport oxygen. Human growth hormone is secreted by the anterior pituitary and is generally anabolic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BALCO_scandal

Clearly from what I've posted it's not "essentially the same", it's not even remotely similar. At most a small subset of that controversy is similar. Those substances like Modafinil were banned for their effects, there was nothing banned about this drug or its effects.

" Legally marketed as a treatment for narcolepsy and sleep disorders, modafinil is not regarded as a high risk drug by athletic governing bodies but is still banned from competition. " There you go, clear as daylight. The same with taking testosterone, that was banned. Completely different.

Alf Veedersane

paleoperson wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BALCO_scandal

Clearly from what I've posted it's not "essentially the same", it's not even remotely similar. At most a small subset of that controversy is similar. Those substances like Modafinil were banned for their effects, there was nothing banned about this drug or its effects.

" Legally marketed as a treatment for narcolepsy and sleep disorders, modafinil is not regarded as a high risk drug by athletic governing bodies but is still banned from competition. " There you go, clear as daylight. The same with taking testosterone, that was banned. Completely different.

Read more than Wikipedia so.