Cost of building a house in 2016/17

dfader

Hi All,
Used these forums a bit when researching my own build in Co.Sligo so thought I'd return the favour and share;
Moved into our new build in summer. 2200sq ft Masonry two story, Masonry 200mm cavity A2 with A2W heatpump, underfloor both floors and MVHR.
Total cost €235,000 so €107 per square foot including all planning fees, solicitor, Engineers, group water connection fee, insurance, ESB connection, BER cert and a €2400 steeltech shed.

Using a Contractor, who built it, roofed it, slated it - man made slates, did wastewater and drainage, plastered it - all Napp - no stone cladding, did all carpentry. His contract came to €155,000

I took out of his contract €78,000 worth of the works which included;


Windows & External Doors, PVC triple glazed throughout €11,250
Kitchen units €6,500
Utility units €1,600
Vanity unit upstairs toilet €300
Appliances €2,795
Stove in living room (Supply = €599 + 200 fitting) €800
Stove heart €540
Tiling floors & wall tiles materials €5,418
Tiling labour €2,500
Laminate Materials €2,182
Carpet stairs and landing €870
Painting inside materials €418
Painting inside labour €1,550
Airtightness test €338
Airtightness materials €1,000
Airtightness labout (€0 - myself)
Plumbing & Heating €16,718
Sanitary ware €2,700
Mechanical ventilation units €5,100
Alarm €300
Gate €1,150
Furniture €3,890 - we had some stuff already like sofas
Steeltech Shed €2,400
Digger take out ditch at front €200
shed screed €150
ESB connecton €1,967
Council Contribution €2,519
Engineers fee €2,760
Solicitors fee (€1952 - €1500 from bank) €452
Provisional BER cert €450
Home Insurance €515
Eircom €100




House fully finished inside, no paths or kerbing outside, not including lawns. Does includes piers for gate.
I got a QS to budget estimate it before we commenced and he was 8% over what we completed it for. I do wonder now how much I could have saved by going the selfbuild route which is what most people around these parts seem to do - what you think? did we do alright.

TPF2012

dfader wrote:

Using a Contractor, who built it, roofed it, slated it - man made slates, did wastewater and drainage, plastered it - all Napp - no stone cladding, did all carpentry. His contract came to €155,000

Thanks for the breakdown on your costs dfader, very helpful as in the northwest region myself. Going to go self build ourselves but just wondering do you have the breakdown of the contractors costs. How was his 155000 price spent more or less.

autumnbelle

dfader wrote: »

Hi All,
Used these forums a bit when researching my own build in Co.Sligo so thought I'd return the favour and share;
Moved into our new build in summer. 2200sq ft Masonry two story, Masonry 200mm cavity A2 with A2W heatpump, underfloor both floors and MVHR.
Total cost €235,000 so €107 per square foot including all planning fees, solicitor, Engineers, group water connection fee, insurance, ESB connection, BER cert and a €2400 steeltech shed.

Using a Contractor, who built it, roofed it, slated it - man made slates, did wastewater and drainage, plastered it - all Napp - no stone cladding, did all carpentry. His contract came to €155,000

I took out of his contract €78,000 worth of the works which included;


Windows & External Doors, PVC triple glazed throughout €11,250
Kitchen units €6,500
Utility units €1,600
Vanity unit upstairs toilet €300
Appliances €2,795
Stove in living room (Supply = €599 + 200 fitting) €800
Stove heart €540
Tiling floors & wall tiles materials €5,418
Tiling labour €2,500
Laminate Materials €2,182
Carpet stairs and landing €870
Painting inside materials €418
Painting inside labour €1,550
Airtightness test €338
Airtightness materials €1,000
Airtightness labout (€0 - myself)
Plumbing & Heating €16,718
Sanitary ware €2,700
Mechanical ventilation units €5,100
Alarm €300
Gate €1,150
Furniture €3,890 - we had some stuff already like sofas
Steeltech Shed €2,400
Digger take out ditch at front €200
shed screed €150
ESB connecton €1,967
Council Contribution €2,519
Engineers fee €2,760
Solicitors fee (€1952 - €1500 from bank) €452
Provisional BER cert €450
Home Insurance €515
Eircom €100




House fully finished inside, no paths or kerbing outside, not including lawns. Does includes piers for gate.
I got a QS to budget estimate it before we commenced and he was 8% over what we completed it for. I do wonder now how much I could have saved by going the selfbuild route which is what most people around these parts seem to do - what you think? did we do alright.

Who did you go with for windows? Thats a great price for plumbing does that include underfloor heating on two floors? Our council contribution is €6500 and engineer fees five thousand

dfader

TPF2012 wrote: »

Thanks for the breakdown on your costs dfader, very helpful as in the northwest region myself. Going to go self build ourselves but just wondering do you have the breakdown of the contractors costs. How was his 155000 price spent more or less.

Sorry no I don't - that's his business. I prepared a very detailed tender package of over 22 drawings, specification, contract and schedule of works, which he tendered for and delivered as agreed. We had no cost disputed or overruns as the tender package was very well prepared and only very minor alterations were made during construction. In fact savings were made as the building was over specified in a couple of places like two steel beams that were specified in the tender drawings but not required.
He opened site, excavated - there was a lot of excavations as sloping site - this is something that can cost considerably more that anticipated so be aware. He stoned all around the site - also be aware take more loads than you might think, he did foundations, ground floor, first floor, suspended ceilings, slabs skimming, insulation, entire structure, roof, facias, guttering etc plastered it, stairs, supplied and fitted all carpentry and joinery including iron munganry. Drainage and sewage plant and pods which were €5,500. did a slab for shed, water connection, all electrical. Basically everything other than what I have listed in my post.

If you invest in good tender documentation you should not have cost overruns in a new build as there are few unknowns - the only unknown is foundations depending on ground conditions, but if you allow for a raft there you will be hedging your bets there unless you suspect pile foundations are a possibility.

Always wondering how much I could have saved if i self built, anyone achieve better that €107 per square foot in northwest recently?

dfader

autumnbelle wrote: »

Who did you go with for windows? Thats a great price for plumbing does that include underfloor heating on two floors? Our council contribution is €6500 and engineer fees five thousand

The big complany in munster for triple glazed uPVC windows. Were the lowest u value and cheapest. Priced three others.

Yes, the breakdown of that was underfloor on both floors about €4000, heating plant about €8200 and domestic plumbing about €2400. We have no en-suites, just two bathrooms (one with shower, no bath). I would highly recommend the plumber too. Our heat pump was turned on mid October last - so far has used €410 electricity, but then we have a very efficient house:)

I was able to make a substantial saving on the Engineers cost so i would expect others Engineer fees to be about €2000-€3000 more.

sea12

Great price. Well done and thanks for sharing.

Did you put in paths around house ?

dfader

sea12 wrote: »

Great price. Well done and thanks for sharing.

Did you put in paths around house ?

No bother, no paths, intend finishing with gravel. What do you would you paths for?

Anything4883

dfader wrote: »

The big complany in munster for triple glazed uPVC windows. Were the lowest u value and cheapest. Priced three others.

Yes, the breakdown of that was underfloor on both floors about €4000, heating plant about €8200 and domestic plumbing about €2400. We have no en-suites, just two bathrooms (one with shower, no bath). I would highly recommend the plumber too. Our heat pump was turned on mid October last - so far has used €410 electricity, but then we have a very efficient house:)

I was able to make a substantial saving on the Engineers cost so i would expect others Engineer fees to be about €2000-€3000 more.

Could you PM me the contractors details by any chance ?

Wegian

dfader wrote: »

Hi All,
Used these forums a bit when researching my own build in Co.Sligo so thought I'd return the favour and share;
Moved into our new build in summer. 2200sq ft Masonry two story, Masonry 200mm cavity A2 with A2W heatpump, underfloor both floors and MVHR.
Total cost €235,000 so €107 per square foot including all planning fees, solicitor, Engineers, group water connection fee, insurance, ESB connection, BER cert and a €2400 steeltech shed.

Using a Contractor, who built it, roofed it, slated it - man made slates, did wastewater and drainage, plastered it - all Napp - no stone cladding, did all carpentry. His contract came to €155,000

I took out of his contract €78,000 worth of the works which included;


Windows & External Doors, PVC triple glazed throughout €11,250
Kitchen units €6,500
Utility units €1,600
Vanity unit upstairs toilet €300
Appliances €2,795
Stove in living room (Supply = €599 + 200 fitting) €800
Stove heart €540
Tiling floors & wall tiles materials €5,418
Tiling labour €2,500
Laminate Materials €2,182
Carpet stairs and landing €870
Painting inside materials €418
Painting inside labour €1,550
Airtightness test €338
Airtightness materials €1,000
Airtightness labout (€0 - myself)
Plumbing & Heating €16,718
Sanitary ware €2,700
Mechanical ventilation units €5,100
Alarm €300
Gate €1,150
Furniture €3,890 - we had some stuff already like sofas
Steeltech Shed €2,400
Digger take out ditch at front €200
shed screed €150
ESB connecton €1,967
Council Contribution €2,519
Engineers fee €2,760
Solicitors fee (€1952 - €1500 from bank) €452
Provisional BER cert €450
Home Insurance €515
Eircom €100




House fully finished inside, no paths or kerbing outside, not including lawns. Does includes piers for gate.
I got a QS to budget estimate it before we commenced and he was 8% over what we completed it for. I do wonder now how much I could have saved by going the selfbuild route which is what most people around these parts seem to do - what you think? did we do alright.

You did really well. We went down the self build route and the price per sqft was similar. Still finishing what may never be finished (outside work) so will share similar costing for the benefit of those starting out...

Monife

What is included in a self-build mortgage? Is it just the cost of building the house or are CoCo development charges, connection charges, architect/engineer fees etc allowed to come from this pot of money?

368100

Monife wrote: »

What is included in a self-build mortgage? Is it just the cost of building the house or are CoCo development charges, connection charges, architect/engineer fees etc allowed to come from this pot of money?

Yes they're normally all able to be included as long as you keep within Loan to Value and Loan to Income limits

km79

368100 wrote: »

Yes they're normally all able to be included as long as you keep within Loan to Value and Loan to Income limits

What about things like light fixtures, appliances, furniture etc??? I am assuming landscaping and tarmac is anyway.
We are relocating next year to Mayo to be closer to our families. Not much for sale (or rent) so now considering building and a site has just come up with full PP. Problem is the proposed house is 2500 sq foot so I am guessing around 250k to build which would be right on our limit and don't fancy living in a half finished house again.........

368100

km79 wrote: »

What about things like light fixtures, appliances, furniture etc??? I am assuming landscaping and tarmac is anyway.
We are relocating next year to Mayo to be closer to our families. Not much for sale (or rent) so now considering building and a site has just come up with full PP. Problem is the proposed house is 2500 sq foot so I am guessing around 250k to build which would be right on our limit and don't fancy living in a half finished house again.........

Light fixtures yes, furnishings no. Think what would stay as part of the house if it was sold. Something to look into though is there are a few banks doing 2% cashback which would help in furnishings and you should check if youre eligible under help to buy scheme, i got approved for a new build. Thats up to 5% of the end value of the house as a tax rebate (assuming youve paid enough tax over the last 4 years)

km79

368100 wrote: »

Light fixtures yes, furnishings no. Think what would stay as part of the house if it was sold. Something to look into though is there are a few banks doing 2% cashback which would help in furnishings and you should check if youre eligible under help to buy scheme, i got approved for a new build. Thats up to 5% of the end value of the house as a tax rebate (assuming youve paid enough tax over the last 4 years)

Thanks not FTB so won’t qualify
A lot of thinking to do on it either way

Lirael

Hi, may I ask - did you already have a site, or did you buy a site? How much, if possible to aks - did you pay for site? Thanks

km79

Didn't buy that site in the end . It went quickly due to it having Full Planning.
Another of greater interest has now come up which will be subject to planning. Almost every other house around it is a bungalow so I'd guess we would only get planning for same.
All of our research thus far has been based on 2 storey/storey and a half .
So what I'd like to know is - is a bungalow cheaper or dearer per square foot to build? I had assumed it would be cheaper as there would be no upstairs to hear and light BUT I'm fairly sure I read somewhere that due to the larger footprint and associated foundations and roof cover it may actually be dearer per square foot?????
Whenever we get to planning we would be looking at around 2000 Sq foot plus a garage and would hope to build for 250k. Site would already have been bought separately
We won't be building a dormer

ravendude

km79 wrote: »

Didn't buy that site in the end . It went quickly due to it having Full Planning.
Another of greater interest has now come up which will be subject to planning. Almost every other house around it is a bungalow so I'd guess we would only get planning for same.
All of our research thus far has been based on 2 storey/storey and a half .
So what I'd like to know is - is a bungalow cheaper or dearer per square foot to build? I had assumed it would be cheaper as there would be no upstairs to hear and light BUT I'm fairly sure I read somewhere that due to the larger footprint and associated foundations and roof cover it may actually be dearer per square foot?????
Whenever we get to planning we would be looking at around 2000 Sq foot plus a garage and would hope to build for 250k. Site would already have been bought separately
We won't be building a dormer

Dearer, more roof, more foundations

km79

ravendude wrote: »

km79 wrote: »

Didn't buy that site in the end . It went quickly due to it having Full Planning.
Another of greater interest has now come up which will be subject to planning. Almost every other house around it is a bungalow so I'd guess we would only get planning for same.
All of our research thus far has been based on 2 storey/storey and a half .
So what I'd like to know is - is a bungalow cheaper or dearer per square foot to build? I had assumed it would be cheaper as there would be no upstairs to hear and light BUT I'm fairly sure I read somewhere that due to the larger footprint and associated foundations and roof cover it may actually be dearer per square foot?????
Whenever we get to planning we would be looking at around 2000 Sq foot plus a garage and would hope to build for 250k. Site would already have been bought separately
We won't be building a dormer

Dearer, more roof, more foundations

Thanks
Thought as much was hoping less glazing and hollowcore might offset it somewhat

We are making first tentative steps at purchasing next next week so will be back for more info hopefully in a month or 2 )

metricspaces

dfader wrote: »

Hi All,
Used these forums a bit when researching my own build in Co.Sligo so thought I'd return the favour and share;
Moved into our new build in summer. 2200sq ft Masonry two story, Masonry 200mm cavity A2 with A2W heatpump, underfloor both floors and MVHR.
Total cost €235,000 so €107 per square foot including all planning fees, solicitor, Engineers, group water connection fee, insurance, ESB connection, BER cert and a €2400 steeltech shed.

Using a Contractor, who built it, roofed it, slated it - man made slates, did wastewater and drainage, plastered it - all Napp - no stone cladding, did all carpentry. His contract came to €155,000

I took out of his contract €78,000 worth of the works which included;

Very interesting! I don't see any mention of architects fees? Who drew up the various plans for you and carried out inspections?

You mention that overall price includes all planning fees, is this in the €155k or the €78k? Does it cover any surveys that needed to be carried out etc.

What did the engineers fee of €2,760 cover?

Country living 2019

Wegian wrote: »

You did really well. We went down the self build route and the price per sqft was similar. Still finishing what may never be finished (outside work) so will share similar costing for the benefit of those starting out...

Hi Wegian,

I’m thinking of building in county Galway this year. Can I ask you what builder you used for your home as your price was reasonable.
Funds are tight. Hence the question.

Hope you don’t mind letting me know.

Wegian

Country living 2019 wrote: »

Hi Wegian,

I’m thinking of building in county Galway this year. Can I ask you what builder you used for your home as your price was reasonable.
Funds are tight. Hence the question.

Hope you don’t mind letting me know.

Hi, good luck with the new build. We did not get a builder, self build instead hence some saving. It now stands us 106 per sqft but we have quite a bit of expense still outside - boundary, tarmac, kerbing etc
I am more than willing to share the tradesmen - feel free to DM me if needed

techtom

Hi Guys,

Has any one got self build costs in county Kildare / Laois / Carlow / Kilkenny for 2018 or 2019.

I am starting a self build project and am investigating costs ? and the supply of Labour.


Gerry