Carraig Eden - Joe Duffy

Shazerina

I heard earlier on the Joe Duffy liveline show (😱) that Carraig Eden is soon to be put up for sale. Residents have been given notice to find alternative accommodation. Two of them, and a guy from Tiglin spoke on the show. Very tough on the people concerned although I can't say I'm surprised to hear it's going up for sale. Is it a listed building, I wonder? What will happen to it?

homer911

Sorry to hear this, but it is a prime site and not necessary for the activities going on there - I remember when the Cardoo's (?) were managers there..

recedite

Would be a great site for a cafe/restaurant, with the sea view.

Zoo4m8

homer911 wrote: »

Sorry to hear this, but it is a prime site and not necessary for the activities going on there - I remember when the Cardoo's (?) were managers there..

Em, why is it not necessary for the activities going on there?

homer911

Zoo4m8 wrote: »

Em, why is it not necessary for the activities going on there?

It's not like its used as a coast guard station, or a 5-star hotel..

loyatemu

Boutique hotel/guest house - it's already set up as accommodation (though I assume it's fairly spartan).

Zoo4m8

homer911 wrote: »

It's not like its used as a coast guard station, or a 5-star hotel..

Ok...I imagine the people who use it would think it's very necessary for their activities..

recedite

Zoo4m8 wrote: »

Em, why is it not necessary for the activities going on there?

I think the implication in the comment is that this particular prime site beside the sea is not necessary for those activities (not that the activities should stop, or aren't worthwhile).

Arguably though, they are making more use of the site, and more people are benefiting from their stay at this location, compared to any other sea-front property in the area.

I think its fair to describe the activities as "rehab with added evangelisation".
I've met some of the temporary residents down at the cove, enjoying the air and interacting with the general public, and the surroundings seem to be uplifting and stimulating for people who might previously have been a bit depressed and lacking in motivation.

I've also met some of the (different) clientele up at Tiglin in the Devil's Glen, and the isolated nature of the place is ideal for inner city types to go "cold turkey" on their drugs habits. So I think both of these places are in fact making the most of their locations.

Personally I am not entirely comfortable with evangelical religious organisations having access vulnerable people, but if the state and its social services are not stepping up to the task, then nobody can really criticise these organisations for providing their charitable "help with added indoctrination".

Alun

Googling the place's name suggests it's a "Theological College", so I was a bit confused by the initial post about "residents", but your explanation makes it clearer. However I share your concerns about mixing religion with rehabilitation. I also didn't know about Tiglin's repurposing either. It was an outdoor pursuits centre for a while until it closed mainly due top lack of funding which was a shame.

homer911

The Department of Housing and WCC have purchased Carraig Eden to continue to run it as a half-way house


https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/mediation-was-not-entered-into-but-there-has-been-a-resolution-of-the-carrig-eden-issue/

recedite

That is an ideal result. Fair play to Minister Simon Harris, as it appears he was instrumental in making this happen.

Blandpebbles

Really? What is your source for this understanding? The link above has a picture of him and a statement thanking the team. Nothing to suggest he played any part in it apart from 'communications' from his office.

Likewise in fairness, why not praise Stephen Donnelly as well as he is mentioned ?

Not that I have time for either of them.

I look forward to being corrected.

On topic - this is good news for an excellent service

recedite

I was simply going on the info in the link..

We are happy to see that the Minister Simon Harris has managed to bring this to a conclusion

...combined with the fact that Harris is a govt. Minister with the power to get things done, whereas Donnelly is not.