In a hundred years what will we look back on as our greatest shame?

Superhorse

Worldwide it would have to be climate change.

Domestically i'd say FF are this nations greatest shame and the fact people continue to give them a vote.

Eugene Norman

The OP asked about 2116's attitude to 2016 not 2016's attitude to 1956.

If people in 2116 are going to bemoan the Catholic Church in Ireland (I don't think they will care) it will be 1956 they hate on not 2016.

The op asked about more than Ireland. Here's what I think the future will consider madness.

1) the neo conservative movement. Power of AIPAC etc
2) extreme and increasing power of banking capital.
3) the disaster that is the euro.
4) the disaster that is the response to mass immigration. Read that how you will.
5) slow action on defossilization of energy.
6) America's cultural dominance and extraordinary military dominance and its recent destruction of the Middle East.

BoJack Horseman

The islamification of Europe.

melissak

mynameis905 wrote: »

Wat?

People with depression are being treat with you know, medication for depression. I fail to see the issue with that.

The issue is, I think, medication as a first resort. Before less potentially damaging methods of cure are explored like counselling etc. The wily nilly administration of these mind altering substances without adequate understanding of a patients situation is bordering on reckless. These drugs were intended as a last resort, when all else has failed. We have become far too pill happy as a society.

SusieBlue

Our continued mistreatment of animals for purely entertainment purposes.

The idea of breeding an animal into captivity, with no concern for the animals natural environment, and forcing them into stressful conditions and witholding food in order for them to do tricks for clapping morons.

Forcing creatures that normally reside in tropical wild conditions to travel around the country in a tiny cage performing for humans for their whole lives, with no chance to live life as nature intended.

Our general mistreatment of all animals, not just captive ones, as a whole. Cats and dogs are considered domesticated family pets but some of the horror stories I've heard in recent times made me sick to my stomach.

pgj2015

JOB BRIDGE

enzo roco

KKkitty wrote: »

Homelessness being a rampant part of our society. Even knowing there's still unfinished housing estates that won't be completed in the next year or so that could be homes for people is sickening.

Homelessness will not be a shame of 2016, or early 21st century. There has always been homelessness in Ireland, and in a 100 years, there still will be.

Ive read a few people say its a shame. Well what are yous doing to help homelessness???

I watched what George carlin had to say about it and he makes great points. But we(humans) are too selfish to care about homeless people, and thats the way it is. This country will never be rid of homelessness.

u2me

Why do good people stand idle when evil triumphs.

Why is it we watch children being washed up on beaches and innocent people cross oceans to escape a man made disaster. Yet we close our borders? (True many are fake but most are legit looking for refuge)

Why is it we watch our climate change, our wild life being destroyed and our oceans being polluted, yet we do nothing?

Why is it we have become consumed by social media and the illusions it presents us with?

Why is it we continue to facilitate suppression of cultures and people in fear instead of trying to understand and learn from them? (The vast majority are good people)

Our biggest shame is in another 100 years we will look back again and say why?

jacksie66

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enzo roco

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Not in the US it isn't.

Well it is in Ireland. I dont know how old you are, but 40 years ago, life was much harder than now.

steddyeddy

The US health system is barbaric and anti science. I'm ashamed of it now.

cdeb

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The islamification of Europe.

This.

The first European country to try a referendum on adopting sharia law will be the answer to this thread. It's been mentioned by imams a few times, including here.

I reckon as well more scandals like the Rotherham sex abuse case will show up; in the future, we'll look at how a blind eye was turned to Muslim crimes in the same way as we look at the likes of the Magdalane laundries today.

PTH2009

AIG sponsoring Dublin GAA lol. Dublin Gaa are similar to a professional soccer club with there sponsorship money and will win everything in the football for the next 10 years

cdeb

Yup, that's a far greater shame than systematic covering up of child sex abuse alright.

melissak

cdeb wrote: »

This.

The first European country to try a referendum on adopting sharia law will be the answer to this thread. It's been mentioned by imams a few times, including here.

I reckon as well more scandals like the Rotherham sex abuse case will show up; in the future, we'll look at how a blind eye was turned to Muslim crimes in the same way as we look at the likes of the Magdalane laundries today.

So Muslims have a monopoly on sex abuse now. Hmmmmm....
Edit. Actually you seem to mean we will have certain people afraid to mention things for fear of seeming racist which is a fair concern. Sorry

cdeb

Is that what I said?

Edit - your edit acknowledged, and it's correct.

Though I do think the majority of cover-up cases which will emerge in future will involve the Muslim communities across Europe. And mass immigration will be included as a "great shame"

Eugene Norman

u2me wrote: »

Why do good people stand idle when evil triumphs.

Why is it we watch children being washed up on beaches and innocent people cross oceans to escape a man made disaster. Yet we close our borders? (True many are fake but most are legit looking for refuge)

Why is it we watch our climate change, our wild life being destroyed and our oceans being polluted, yet we do nothing?

Why is it we have become consumed by social media and the illusions it presents us with?

Why is it we continue to facilitate suppression of cultures and people in fear instead of trying to understand and learn from them? (The vast majority are good people)

Our biggest shame is in another 100 years we will look back again and say why?

I doubt it. In 100 years I doubt if today's attitudes on mass migration will be common. At least elite attitudes.

All of the elite ideologues of today, globalisation, mass migration, the euro, bombing places to democracy (the invasions of Iraq and the Arab Spring interventions were supported on humanitarian grounds by the centre left), all are failures.

Wanderer78

enzo roco wrote:

Well it is in Ireland. I dont know how old you are, but 40 years ago, life was much harder than now.

This is highly debatable but to some degree, I can understand where your coming from. I do prefer Michael Hudsons explaination of wealth and debt and the way we have confused them, I.e. we think we have become wealthier but all we have become is richer in debt. Our standards of living have risen but we owe far more. It's an unsustainable model.

enzo roco

PTH2009 wrote: »

AIG sponsoring Dublin GAA lol. Dublin Gaa are similar to a professional soccer club with there sponsorship money and will win everything in the football for the next 10 years

Is this a joke??? A bad one.

In a hundred years, no one will give a flying fudge about the all ireland champions 2016-2026.

Look at some shame from the last hundred years. I can think of many, but gaa matters are not important.

The Talking Bread

Joe Duffy pocketing every single penny from a buuuke about the children of 1916 (that 80% was no doubt was put together and researched by his team of production staff) and getting free publicity on every media outlet while campaigning for said buuuuke to be instated on our school curriculum.

Shameful stuff.

KERSPLAT!

CaraMay wrote: »

Allowing people, who are able to work, to sit at home and live off the state for their entire lives.

Of all the things in the world going on and this, this will be our greatest shame!? Christ.

The Talking Bread

enzo roco wrote: »

Is this a joke??? A bad one.

In a hundred years, no one will give a flying fudge about the all ireland champions 2016-2026.

Look at some shame from the last hundred years. I can think of many, but gaa matters are not important.

I very much think this is mainly sattirical humour. Its more a joke you are taking it so seriously............

enzo roco

Wanderer78 wrote: »

This is highly debatable but to some degree, I can understand where your coming from. I do prefer Michael Hudsons explaination of wealth and debt and the way we have confused them, I.e. we think we have become wealthier but all we have become is richer in debt. Our standards of living have risen but we owe far more. It's an unsustainable model.

Im not familiar with Michael Hudson, I'll look him up.

But what i meant is, I am under 40, but talking to my parents and grandparents. They struggled to put food on the table 40 years go. There was a lack of jobs. They struggled so much...
And I look at myself and my peers, we are comfortable, educated, have disposable income etc. Sure we have our problems. But its laughable to my parent's generation.

PTH2009

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I very much think this is mainly sattirical humour. Its more a joke you are taking it so seriously............

i was being serious :D:D:D. it only a joke

enzo roco

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I very much think this is mainly sattirical humour. Its more a joke you are taking it so seriously............

A very poor joke though. I know its after hours, but come on.

melissak

enzo roco wrote: »

Im not familiar with Michael Hudson, I'll look him up.

But what i meant is, I am under 40, but talking to my parents and grandparents. They struggled to put food on the table 40 years go. There was a lack of jobs. They struggled so much...
And I look at myself and my peers, we are comfortable, educated, have disposable income etc. Sure we have our problems. But its laughable to my parent's generation.

Some people were well off 40 years ago. Some people struggle now to put food on the table.

cdeb

Society's greatest shame in the future?

Still not having invented a "sarcastic" font.

enzo roco

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Joe Duffy pocketing every single penny from a buuuke about the children of 1916 (that 80% was no doubt was put together and researched by his team of production staff) and getting free publicity on every media outlet while campaigning for said buuuuke to be instated on our school curriculum.

Shameful stuff.

He will not be remembered in a hundred years. He is not exactly the James Joyce of our times.

enzo roco

melissak wrote: »

Some people were well off 40 years ago. Some people struggle now to put food on the table.

I know, I said that.

But a very small minority have problems putting food on the table nowadays. And there is a decent welfare system to make sure people dont starve.

The Talking Bread

PTH2009 wrote: »

i was being serious :D:D:D. it only a joke

On a serious note, profesaionalism of our national sport will be eventually something to be proud of. We have a superb system and most entertaining national institution in place and every encouragement should be granted to youth. I cant see it getting out of hand considering we are such a small nation and foreign interest is not substantial.

Rightwing

Our greatest shame will be we won't be here to tell the tale. First the endangered species will go and mankind will follow.

If we persist on the path of destruction, life probably will not exist as we know it.

The Talking Bread

enzo roco wrote: »

He will not be remembered in a hundred years. He is not exactly the James Joyce of our times.

Clonnnnnnnned Duffy

Schwiiing

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

We're made up of Celts, Normans, Vikings, Anglo-Saxons? Who is we?

You can throw in a few North African/Spanish into that mix aswell.

Sam Kade

steddyeddy wrote: »

If we look back 200 years ago in the western world we can see segregation based on race, chemical weapons like mustard gas, eugenics, throwing single women into "laundries" and also the last dregs of colonialism and the destruction of indigenous cultures.

Now all of those things were considered acceptable in their own times and it was often the more radical members of society that rebelled against the status quo

What about the status quo in our day and age? What do you think people will look back on and wonder how was that acceptable?

One thing that springs to mind is India's caste system. It's a form of apartheid based solely on prejudice. It has no place in a country with a space program.

Another is the destruction and near extinction of some of our closest relatives the non human apes such as the orangutan or gorilla.

Any more?

The apes aren't our relatives some scientist tried to breed a human with an ape back in the 1800's but failed after several attempts. It wasn't attempted since but they still keep the nonsense going.

The Talking Bread

enzo roco wrote: »

A very poor joke though. I know its after hours, but come on.

I dont think he meant it to be a joke that will be remembered in 100 years. Satire is not a joke in a sense anyway....!

steddyeddy

Sam Kade wrote: »

The apes aren't our relatives some scientist tried to breed a human with an ape back in the 1800's but failed after several attempts. It wasn't attempted since but they still keep the nonsense going.

Another great shame that people don't accept evolution.

Sam Kade

steddyeddy wrote: »

Another great shame that people don't accept evolution.

The shame of people who believe it.

steddyeddy

Sam Kade wrote: »

The shame of people who believe it.

I can't argue with views like that so I'll just do this XOXO

PTH2009

setanta sports too

terrible station

Autonomous Cowherd

That we stood mutely and tugged our forelocks to the great leaders of the American Empire as they marauded across the Middle East (and wherever else they felt like) slaughtering millions (yes, millions!) of innocent people (for oil and geo-political advantage), reducing whole landscapes to rubble and misery ....
and also that we let them refuel their war machines on our island as they practiced extraordinary rendition to torture camps of unknown (innocent) people from countries faraway.

anothernight

That by 2016, the quality of journalism had deteriorated to the point that our newspaper of record couldn't even spell the word 'commemoration'. http://www.irishtimes.com/1916

The Talking Bread

anothernight wrote: »

That by 2016, the quality of journalism had deteriorated to the point that our newspaper of record couldn't even spell the word 'commemoration'. http://www.irishtimes.com/1916

People who nitpick and pretend to be offended by the most insignificant thing like a spelling error....

KomradeBishop

The Boards Dispute Resolution Process (there goes another good poster, which is a pity to see...)

The Talking Bread

Sam Kade wrote: »

The apes aren't our relatives some scientist tried to breed a human with an ape back in the 1800's but failed after several attempts. It wasn't attempted since but they still keep the nonsense going.

Are you for real?? You honestly dont believe in evolution as science has explained our incremental being? Offer me an alternative!

Actually dont bother........please!

anothernight

The Talking Bread wrote: »

People who nitpick and pretend to be offended by the most insignificant thing like a spelling error....

They often have mistakes in their copy, which isn't a big deal. It's a different story when we're talking about a heading though, especially when it's for the centenary of the Easter Rising.

melissak

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Are you for real?? You honestly dont believe in evolution as science has explained our incremental being? Offer me an alternative!

Aliens?

The Talking Bread

anothernight wrote: »

They often have mistakes in their copy, which isn't a big deal. It's a different story when we're talking about a heading though, especially when it's for the centenary of the Easter Rising.

Seriously though, a bloody spelling error! What is spelling though than a means of communication! I'm prettty sure that headline was in no way ambiguous to any interpreter!

Get over yourself!

Wanderer78

enzo roco wrote: »

Im not familiar with Michael Hudson, I'll look him up.

But what i meant is, I am under 40, but talking to my parents and grandparents. They struggled to put food on the table 40 years go. There was a lack of jobs. They struggled so much...
And I look at myself and my peers, we are comfortable, educated, have disposable income etc. Sure we have our problems. But its laughable to my parent's generation.

melissak wrote: »

Some people were well off 40 years ago. Some people struggle now to put food on the table.

enzo roco wrote: »

I know, I said that.

But a very small minority have problems putting food on the table nowadays. And there is a decent welfare system to make sure people dont starve.

you both have very good points. id highly recommend michael hudsons work. he explains our complicated financial and economic systems very well in particular, their fundamental problems.

enzo, we re probably roughly the same age. i will agree that our standard of living has risen but this has come at a cost. theres no clear solution to these issues either and these systems are unsustainable in their current formats.

sadly our social welfare system is being slowly ripped apart. our world is slowly becoming less secure. its very complicated.

Eugene Norman

enzo roco wrote: »

Im not familiar with Michael Hudson, I'll look him up.

But what i meant is, I am under 40, but talking to my parents and grandparents. They struggled to put food on the table 40 years go. There was a lack of jobs. They struggled so much...
And I look at myself and my peers, we are comfortable, educated, have disposable income etc. Sure we have our problems. But its laughable to my parent's generation.

I don't the 70's was that poor in Ireland. It depends. Middle income groups led by single earners could buy a decent house for peanuts, food wasn't scarce for them. They've also won the housing lottery and the pension lottery by retiring now.

social welfare wasn't that good then though.

edbrez

steddyeddy wrote: »

Any more?

Five-year olds getting force fed chicken nuggets in McDonalds by their naïve parents.