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M50 Hard shoulder running ??

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    #32
    crc
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭crc


    loyatemu wrote: »
    What actual journeys are you trying to facilitate with such a route? It seems like it would necessitate 2 transfers (at least) for anyone trying to connect between any 2 western suburbs or business parks, and would be mind-bendingly slow.
    My suggestion is not about any specific journeys but about overall connectivity on the network.

    Done correctly, transfers should be a good thing. It's explained well on the Human Transit blog: “Transferring” Can Be Good for You, and Good for Your City.
    There are already frequent radial routes into and out of Dublin on (almost) all of the main axes (mostly achieved by building QBCs); what's missing is a frequent orbital service to connect them. It doesn't have to be on the M50 per se (except to cross the Liffey), but it does need to be fast and frequent. There aren't many other paths that could achieve that.

    Clearly speed is the biggest concern. The thread started off asking whether we should allow hard-shoulder running. I would be in favour of hard shoulder running for busses on the M50 (as currently exists on dual carriageway sections of the N3, N4, N7, etc.), but as others have pointed out they may be too narrow in this case.


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    #33
    Markcheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    loyatemu wrote:
    What actual journeys are you trying to facilitate with such a route? It seems like it would necessitate 2 transfers (at least) for anyone trying to connect between any 2 western suburbs or business parks, and would be mind-bendingly slow.

    Yes it would be a couple of transfers, but thats kind of the point of an orbital public transport link , it allows you to connect to any other radial route (in bound or outbound) without having to go into the centre...and if the junctions/stops are as flexible as possible it might mean using your own parked bike or your works/industrial estates shuttle bus for the last leg...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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