Remi Garde Leaves Aston Villa

Paully D

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5455200,00.html

Manager, Rémi Garde, has today left Aston Villa Football Club by mutual consent.

The Club would like to place on record its sincere thanks to Rémi for all his efforts during a difficult period and wish him well in the future.

Eric Black will take over as acting manager until the Club appoints a new manager.

There will be no further comment from the Club at this stage.

What a disastrous appointment that was.

BoJack Horseman

Yeah, wrong man for the situation.

fermanagh_man

Should have kept faith in Tim Sherwood, felt with time he could have done a decent job

CSF

Immensely difficult job. He wasn't the man for that.

CSF

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Should have kept faith in Tim Sherwood, felt with time he could have done a decent job

No, god no.

cson

Good call by Villa, wasn't going to be the man to get them out of the Championship. Get in a Steve Bruce type and work with the players from now until the end to see who he wants to/can keep.

I do think, somewhat ironically, he'd have actually been a good appointment had it been made in June of last year.

BoJack Horseman

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Should have kept faith in Tim Sherwood

For the lols if nothing else.

fermanagh_man

Losing Delph, Cleverly and Benteke was the killer

Patser

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Should have kept faith in Tim Sherwood, felt with time he could have done a decent job

Sherwood had cracked under the pressure, his selections had turned crazy, playing 2 man midfields, players out of position etc

Us Villa fans have a strange regard for Garde, ask any if us and we'll say he was dignified. He really came across as professional and calm. However on a sinking ship that needs immediate, emergency help a calm, patient, long term planner is onto a loser.

It's the big irony - if Garde had been in charge last summer with time to plan we'd be in better shape. With the team's collapse we needed a cocky motivator like Sherwood (it worked last season). This season we got our managers in the wrong order.

However the biggest problems lie higher up, an owner that wants out and has lost interest, newly appointed executives that have been shown to be out of their depth.

CSF

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Losing Delph, Cleverly and Benteke was the killer

Yup, but enough money was spent that they should have been able to replace them well enough to not be this sh*t. The lack of a scouting system and general competent transfer committee meant that every player that left was going to be a dagger blow.

I mean really, should we be talking about Cleverley being a fatal blow to any side?

fermanagh_man

Villa could end up like my own team Leeds

The championship is a killer to get out off, easily the most competitive league in the world

Sad times

CSF

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Villa could end up like my own team Leeds

The championship is a killer to get out off, easily the most competitive league in the world

Sad times

I think the lack of debt relative to Leeds should see Villa have a less tumultuous run of it from here on out

thebaz

Sorry for Villa fans - great club - but really Garde seemed to lack the passion for relegation fight - Moyes would be a good appointment , Pearson not bad - would you have Keano back ?

But to move on , Lerner needs to sell up quickly or regain interest , heard rumours he may . Anyway wish Villa a speedy recovery back to good times.

CSF

thebaz wrote: »

Sorry for Villa fans - great club - but really Garde seemed to lack the passion for relegation fight - Moyes would be a good appointment , Pearson not bad - would you have Keano back ?

But to move on , Lerner needs to sell up quickly or regain interest , heard rumours he may . Anyway wish Villa a speedy recovery back to good times.

Definitely not Keane. Moyes would be ideal but won't want it. Pearson would be acceptable.

tayto lover

Did Mourinho apply yet?
Would love to see how he'd do with that challenge.

nullzero

David Moyes on his way?
Villa really should have stuck with Martin O'Neill.

Corholio

nullzero wrote: »

David Moyes on his way?
Villa really should have stuck with Martin O'Neill.

If they had they might have financially ended up like Leeds. It looks good that they finished up the league with him but there was a lot more to it than that. He left more deadwood at the club than a tropical tsunami.

mikeym

Hard times for Villa.

I feel sorry for the fans.

keith16

He was sold a pup.

pavb2

CSF wrote: »

I mean really, should we be talking about Cleverley being a fatal blow to any side?

I'm not buying that either he had about 3 or 4 good games out of 30 +
Geoff Stelling also suggested that selling Andy Weimann contributed to our demise.

CSF

pavb2 wrote: »

I'm not buying that either he had about 3 or 4 good games out of 20 +
Geoff Stelling also suggested that selling Andy Weimann contributed to our demise.

I thought Cleverley was quite good once Sherwood came in. But never a player that you couldn't live without.

ben.schlomo

Lerner has been a disaster for Villa, sell up, get a manager who knows the Championship e.g Mick McCarthy/Chris Hughton and try and rebuild for a quick return. Wont be easy no matter what happens. Personally wont miss them, theyve been awful to watch for a long time now.

artanevilla

nullzero wrote: »

David Moyes on his way?
Villa really should have stuck with Martin O'Neill.

He resigned, a few days before the start of the season I might add, he wasn't sacked.

Paully D

mikeym wrote: »

Hard times for Villa.

I feel sorry for the fans.

I do too. And at the end of the day, unfortunately that's who will really suffer.

The vast majority of the players who have half-arsed it all season will secure moves elsewhere (some on more money than they are earning now). Tim Sherwood got a handsome payoff after winning 1 game this season. Remi Garde (who by all accounts seems like a nice guy) won 2 games in 20 and will also have received a payoff. Those who were responsible for spunking over £50m on 12 players in the summer have no accountability. The owner and board, well, the less said the better.

pavb2

Paully D wrote: »

I do too. And at the end of the day, unfortunately that's who will really suffer.

The vast majority of the players who have half-arsed it all season will secure moves elsewhere (some on more money than they are earning now). Tim Sherwood got a handsome payoff after winning 1 game this season. Remi Garde (who by all accounts seems like a nice guy) won 2 games in 20 and will also have received a payoff. Those who were responsible for spunking over £50m on 12 players in the summer have no accountability. The owner and board, well, the less said the better.

Tom Fox and frederick Almstdht already gone Paddy Reilly the other main culprit will follow shortly.

Ironically The new players such as Gana, amavi, Veretout and Ayew have shown glimpses of skill and had good attitudes. More culpable are the senior players such as Agbhonlahor, Richards, Guzan nzogbia and lescott etc whose general atitude has been appalling.

Patser

Paully D wrote: »

Those who were responsible for spunking over £50m on 12 players in the summer have no accountability. The owner and board, well, the less said the better.

Actually a few of them were sacked last week

Henrik Almstadt was in charge of transfers

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/10206279/aston-villa-part-company-with-sporting-director-hendrik-almstadt

Tom Fox was CEO who 'resigned' last week

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/aston-villa-chief-executive-tom-fox-resigns-34550004.html

There is a top level clear out taking place as the club goes into survival mode for the Championship, with a new board of very experienced FA people, business men with liquidation experience and Brian Little a Villa man through and through brought in.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/11/brian-little-david-bernstein-aston-villa-board

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/french-boss-remi-garde-leaves-as-premier-league-relegation-looms-for-aston-villa-34580492.html

Paully D

Speaking of the recruitment, it's a bit of a strange one because you look at the players they brought in and on paper for most of them you think "yeah, decent signing at that level", yet I can't think of one player they brought in that actually had any sort of real strong positive impact at all apart from Amavi for a few games and he had a horror show against Palace (IIRC).

Very strange, and most of those players came from Ligue 1 where players usually settle quickly into the Premier League.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I don't think it was a terrible appointment. Look at the players he lost...was given f-all money to spend on replacements. The same team that very nearly went down last season was stripped of their best players and they weren't replaced. It's hardly his fault. The team is plain shít. Hard to judge him on this season.

pavb2

Paully D wrote: »

Speaking of the recruitment, it's a bit of a strange one because you look at the players they brought in and on paper for most of them you think "yeah, decent signing at that level", yet I can't think of one player they brought in that actually had any sort of real strong positive impact at all apart from Amavi for a few games and he had a horror show against Palace (IIRC).

Very strange, and most of those players came from Ligue 1 where players usually settle quickly into the Premier League.

I think the consensus is that those players would have and if and when they leave will flourish in a better environment Villa has been toxic for a long time so the odds were against them. As an example you have Sherwood not playing them because they were bought by the transfer committee and not him.

HalloweenJack

Feel sorry for Garde but he hasn't been able to stop the rot.

Club needs a massive overhaul to get out of the Championship, not just players and a new manager. Lerner needs to go more than anyone but, realistically, who's going to buy th club? They're not so financially stuffed that a fan takeover is possible.

Moyes would be excellent, think Pearson would be good enough. Who else is available?

Can't see Bruce or Hughton going there because of their current jobs and also their City connections. I know Lerner appointed McLeish but, best case scenario, he isn't making the appointments.

Paully D

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Feel sorry for Garde but he hasn't been able to stop the rot.

Club needs a massive overhaul to get out of the Championship, not just players and a new manager. Lerner needs to go more than anyone but, realistically, who's going to buy th club? They're not so financially stuffed that a fan takeover is possible.

Moyes would be excellent, think Pearson would be good enough. Who else is available?

Can't see Bruce or Hughton going there because of their current jobs and also their City connections. I know Lerner appointed McLeish but, best case scenario, he isn't making the appointments.

If Birmingham don't go up this year, I think they should make a play for Gary Rowett. I'm sure it would be a difficult get given his links, but he's only on a 12 month rolling contract and even in a bit of a state, the Villa job is going to be very attractive to managers like Rowett and will pay an attractive salary. Strange things have certainly happened. He's a young manager, plays a nice counter-attacking style and could be a breath of fresh air for them.

thebaz

pavb2 wrote: »

More culpable are the senior players such as Agbhonlahor, Richards, Guzan nzogbia and lescott etc whose general atitude has been appalling.

For a battle down the trenches that would be the last lot I'd want - Thats what a relegation battle is - a battle - not tweeting pictures of your new Lambourghini - shame on modern pro's , passion should be a given for any supposed pro athlete

and I'd throw Jack Grealish in with that lot , all ego and money , too good for Ireland .. yeah right

StephenHendry

not too surprised this has happened, he was never really given a chance , he was given no chance to bring in players in January to try and keep villa up, they should try and get in someone like nigel pearson as they will find the championship tough,

Francie Barrett

Jack Grealish will no doubt be pleased that Garde has been given the chop.

Not really sure why people feel sorry for Garde. His record was rubbish and I don't think the squad he inherited was as bad as that. It really seemed to me like he lost the dressing room as well as the apetite for the fight after he didn't get any signings in January. I have some sympathy in this regard, but this should not have been allowed to infect the team.

pavb2

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Not really sure why people feel sorry for Garde. His record was rubbish and I don't think the squad he inherited was as bad as that. It really seemed to me like he lost the dressing room as well as the apetite for the fight after he didn't get any signings in January. I have some sympathy in this regard, but this should not have been allowed to infect the team.

It's a valid argument as if promises made by the board regarding bringing new players in weren't kept then all things being equal Garde should have walked on Feb 2nd. Of course that rarely happens in football and Garde now leaves with a couple of million.

Richard Hillman

Vince Lombardi wouldn't have kept that lot up.

eagle eye

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Vince Lombardi wouldn't have kept that lot up.

I don't think American football coaches are suited to managing/coaching soccer teams.

astonaidan

Didnt really take long for a Grealish dig. Garde was never really put in a place to succeed this shouldnt really look to bad on his future prospects. I want Moyes now, I think most Villa fans think the same

Richard Hillman

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't think American football coaches are suited to managing/coaching soccer teams.

Ok then.

Viagra wouldnt have kept that lot up.

Hercule Poirot

Garde was on a hiding to nothing from the start - the players seemed to have the motivation of a dead hamster and they were absolutely shocking at times this season. People talked up Liverpool after they whooped them 6-0 but that performance by Villa, at home, was a disgrace from every angle.

It was clear before Garde arrived that they were going down, and so it has come to pass.

While we do like to see new clubs get a crack at the Premier league it is sad when we see an institution like Villa (one of only 5/6 clubs to have been ever present in the EPL era) to make the drop - and as mentioned above, the Championship is easily one of the hardest divisions in modern football - I fear that it may be a while before we see them again...

Patser

Just so all know what's happening at Villa, 2 of the senior boardroom members recently recruited - Bernstein and King, hugely experienced football men - have resigned, throwing a huge spotlight on Lerner's running of the club. Their statements (better examples given in Villa thread) show that it's beyond the board where the problems lie, and that recent commitments (even within the last month) are being watered down.

It's scary times for us Villa fans.

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/36076936

SEPT 23 1989

They are fools letting Bernstein go that man knows how to steer a club out of the sh1t

K-9

Patser wrote: »

Just so all know what's happening at Villa, 2 of the senior boardroom members recently recruited - Bernstein and King, hugely experienced football men - have resigned, throwing a huge spotlight on Lerner's running of the club. Their statements (better examples given in Villa thread) show that it's beyond the board where the problems lie, and that recent commitments (even within the last month) are being watered down.

It's scary times for us Villa fans.

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/36076936

Yeah, Moyes has volunteered!

Seriously, he'd be a good shout but I suspect Celtic will get him.

astonaidan

K-9 wrote: »

Yeah, Moyes has volunteered!

Seriously, he'd be a good shout but I suspect Celtic will get him.

I think they quit cause they wanted Moyes but Lerner was making it impossible to get him