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sligojoek

TB. Have you any pics of Emmet's jewelery?

Flippyfloppy

Rfrip wrote: »

This is the best theory that's been on this thread so far

I'm sorry but no, no it's not! We've seen emmet breaking down because she's missing. No show , even fair city would be stupid enough to do that! It's completely misleading.

The Talking Bread

sligojoek wrote: »

TB. Have you any pics of Emmet's jewelery?

Impossible to know whether he has the 5 five fingers on his hand, let alone jewlery with Emmet

Always number 1

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

I'm sorry but no, no it's not! We've seen emmet breaking down because she's missing. No show , even fair city would be stupid enough to do that! It's completely misleading.

Is that not the idea though? Throw us completely off the scent?

Whoever has her is obviously providing her with food, shelter, clean clothes, magazines and a shower - if it was someone who didn't care about her they wouldn't bother...

Pretzill

Theories abound: The reality of it is, it could be any of the suggested cast members.

But it is someone who doesn't know KT very well. If it was Emmet or even the Ram they would know Katy is a student, is into journalism and into reading - they wouldn't give her magazines to pass the time.

Ciarán doesn't know her very well but surely he would have learned more about her from Emmet in the months he had her captive? Still it seems to me the abducter is a bit of an amateur - doesn't really know what he/she is doing. Is sort of winging it. The likely story is its Ciarán and Katy is being held captive until Eoghan's hearing - I presume in order to clear his own name Eoghan will have to detail Cathal's involvement in the siege and the money laundering and they will blackmail Eoghan with video's of KT being held captive or something like that - why I don't know since Cathal seems to be a free man and hasn't answered any charges yet..

My other theory is it's a female abducter - there is a certain amount of privacy been given to Katy , the camera is only there to check on her not voyeuristic -
It seems to be someone naive too (leaving her sweets in the hope she'd eat them)

😠My two cents.

Yawn. Bored with this.

BuilderPlumber

Always number 1 wrote: »

Is that not the idea though? Throw us completely off the scent?

Whoever has her is obviously providing her with food, shelter, clean clothes, magazines and a shower - if it was someone who didn't care about her they wouldn't bother...

The person cares in some capacity and it would be a big twist if Emmett or even Debbie were involved all along. The desperation Debbie showed in front of Cathal rules her out though. Emmett gets me thinking though. He is a multidimensional character. Sometimes, he is on a fanatic quest to get people to care about Katy's disappearance, other times he is a carefree, heavy drinking, card playing chancer who does not seem to care about anything but the present moment. Then, there is his poor relationship with Eoghan. There is certainly a possibility he is involved.

JP Liz V1

Just seen Val in an ad with Daniel O' Donnell

Always number 1

Pretzill wrote: »

Theories abound: The reality of it is, it could be any of the suggested cast members.

But it is someone who doesn't know KT very well. If it was Emmet or even the Ram they would know Katy is a student, is into journalism and into reading - they wouldn't give her magazines to pass the time.

Ciarán doesn't know her very well but surely he would have learned more about her from Emmet in the months he had her captive? Still it seems to me the abducter is a bit of an amateur - doesn't really know what he/she is doing. Is sort of winging it. The likely story is its Ciarán and Katy is being held captive until Eoghan's hearing - I presume in order to clear his own name Eoghan will have to detail Cathal's involvement in the siege and the money laundering and they will blackmail Eoghan with video's of KT being held captive or something like that - why I don't know since Cathal seems to be a free man and hasn't answered any charges yet..

My other theory is it's a female abducter - there is a certain amount of privacy been given to Katy , the camera is only there to check on her not voyeuristic -
It seems to be someone naive too (leaving her sweets in the hope she'd eat them)

😠My two cents.

Emmet only appeared after Michael died and wouldn't really have much of a clue about what Katy is interested in cos they seem to have given the impression that he hadn't been around for a good while before that.
Did he offer her sweets to remind her of him buying his little step sister a treat when they were younger?
Emmet being involved would also explain the non voyeuristic nature of her being filmed

BuilderPlumber

Pretzill wrote: »

Theories abound: The reality of it is, it could be any of the suggested cast members.

But it is someone who doesn't know KT very well. If it was Emmet or even the Ram they would know Katy is a student, is into journalism and into reading - they wouldn't give her magazines to pass the time.

Ciarán doesn't know her very well but surely he would have learned more about her from Emmet in the months he had her captive? Still it seems to me the abducter is a bit of an amateur - doesn't really know what he/she is doing. Is sort of winging it. The likely story is its Ciarán and Katy is being held captive until Eoghan's hearing - I presume in order to clear his own name Eoghan will have to detail Cathal's involvement in the siege and the money laundering and they will blackmail Eoghan with video's of KT being held captive or something like that - why I don't know since Cathal seems to be a free man and hasn't answered any charges yet..

My other theory is it's a female abducter - there is a certain amount of privacy been given to Katy , the camera is only there to check on her not voyeuristic -
It seems to be someone naive too (leaving her sweets in the hope she'd eat them)

😠My two cents.

I'm sure this trial will have a lot to do with how this turns out. We must remember all this hotel business runs deeper than just Cathal and includes that biker guy and others like him who were doing deals. We do not know who Ciaran, Stella and others are and we can not rule out the possibility that Flynn is dead either (or was ever sick). Could Flynn fake illness, get shifted to a hospital, escape and set things up with some of these other characters? Of course, Ciaran's nickname is a show were a certain Fran the man did just that! A revelation that Flynn is still alive and escaped from prison or even off on a technicality may be possible. Cathal then would be deliberately placed to mislead.

I feel too a female captor may be involved. I feel Stella is involved in some way but not necessarily as the captor. Stella may have been caught up in stuff that has to do with the Flynns. I know somehow I have mentioned him or her but here are the complete list of who it could be assuming it is a known character and how likely and motive:

Stella: Very possible she is involved though not the baddie. Stella could have unwittingly lead Katy into her world and allowed some enemy of either or both to capture her. Motive: Stella may want to protect Katy after she runs from home but instead leads her into trouble.
Cathal: a definite possibility. His main motive would be to use it to get Eoghan to change his statement. Maybe a bit too obvious for him being the main man though.
Flynn alive: as said, possible. We did not see him die, he has the same motive as Cathal especially if he got off on a technicality for the other things.
Other associates of the Flynns like that biker: very likely they are involved in the mix and would add to the pressure but probably not directly.
Tommy: the camera, the specialised room set up and the kindness shown to her could be interpreted as suggesting it is Tommy. Tommy's main motive is for the affair not to come out to maybe keep Eoghan and Debbie together until the trial. If it is Tommy, he is not doing it for an evil reason but for the greater good.
Ciaran: He still seems to be the most likely for many. His motive could be to protect her from some danger he knows is coming or else he is working for the Flynns. Very possible.
Emmett: he holds her to protect her from what he sees as a failed family. Another poster got me thinking that he could be the outside possibility that no one would suspect as obvious.
Debbie: has the most to lose if Katy returned prior to her ending her relationship with Eoghan. Now that she has and also her desperation with Cathal proves though she is not involved.
Oisin: Oisin was blamed because of what was happening with Jane. Oisin has no motive whatsoever to capture Katy and is very unlikely it is him.
Robbie: he has got some mention and we must remember he does have a colourful relationship with Flynn and Flynn associates. Suppose he is blackmailed into capturing her on behalf of the surviving members of the Flynn organisation. Possible but unlikely.
Eoghan: Hardly likely.
Charlie: he gets mentioned but he has no motive and it is not something he would do.
Along with Charlie, it is not Rachel, Charlotte, Zumo, Decco, Denzo, Dermot, Dolores, Kerry Anne, Bela, Leo, Damian, Caoimhe, Pete, Doug or other such characters either.
Paul: He is blamed for everything else but he is not that bad!

I have almost certainly mentioned those involved here. A few hints will be thrown in with typical traits of some characters. Already Tommy has got the turn with the cameras which probably means that Tommy is to be ruled out and that was to divert our attention. That then leaves Ciaran, Cathal, Stella, Flynn and possibly Robbie and Emmett as the top suspects.

Sephiroth_dude

Emmet was distraught the week before last about katie and now hes all calm and off playing poker :rolleyes:

Wanderer2010

@cornmdogg- you keep discounting Stella and asking what is a girl gang? I'm pretty sure it's the exact same as a guy gang, a group of delinquent girls who commit crime together who come from broken families and have that common bond. As seen all over the world what's so hard to understand about that?
Stella has a few years on Katy I would say and was involved in crime before, it's not an impossible leap that she wanted to shut Katy up and has links to more dangerous criminals who could set up her cell and rig a camera etc and now it's gone out of control it's as plausible a theory as any and up there with Love Hate as the main suspect.
If nothing else it was a massive giveaway that she came back looking for work in Debbie's hotel and of all the people in the soap they could pick to reveal the affair to Ciaran they picked her, watch that scene again it's way too staged to be natural..

The Talking Bread

I love the way there is even the slightest possibility being given to Bunnion being the Katynapper! ! I'd be fairly confident anyone that said it was only joking !!!












Saying that. .........

Mena Mitty

I find myself going into the detail of the kidnapping in my minds eye. How did she get into this predicament. Were there two people involved. Did she walk into that room or was she carried in bound and gagged. Was she drugged. Is she in Carrigstown or down the country.
It would take a day or two to put together this hut, so was it preplanned or was it already in situ in a warehouse or something.
On one episode she was sent in food through the sliding drawer and you could see a glimpse of light at the side of the drawer so is it a hut indoor or outside.
Is Barry out of prison. The sooner this kidnap storyline is over the better.

Flippyfloppy

Always number 1 wrote: »

Is that not the idea though? Throw us completely off the scent?

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yes, except with Emmet we've seen him breaking down alone, when it's just him and the camera. Which would mean he knows there's an audience to fool?!

If Emmet was guilty, I'd never watch fair city again. May as well start accusing Eoghan and Kerri-Ann, actually maybe it's Dolores??

Peig Sayers

I think it's Deegan! The voice sounded like him and we know he's a control freak. Feeding her well and washing her clothes would be exactly the way he'd do it. He will pretend to find her and he'll be the hero!

bazermc

bazermc wrote: »

It be gas if it turned out to be someone nobody suspected and was say Dermo or the Don or even bunion Kelly

Its Defo Bunion - good girl Katie

youwould

The Ram and his real life wife are gonna be on Adoption Stories tomorrow night on TV3 at 8.30pm.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theres-not-a-day-that-goes-by-when-i-dont-think-about-him-tv3s-popular-adoption-stories-is-back-with-more-touching-accounts-35102279.html

Agent Smith

Keeping Katy locked up is taking it's toll on Charlie....

The Talking Bread

youwould wrote: »

The Ram and his real life wife are gonna be on Adoption Stories tomorrow night on TV3 at 8.30pm.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theres-not-a-day-that-goes-by-when-i-dont-think-about-him-tv3s-popular-adoption-stories-is-back-with-more-touching-accounts-35102279.html

A lucky woman.

Not only The Ram, but a version of The Ram that doesn't stray the fields at night!!


Interesting programme topic. I know people who were in same boat as her.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/lifestyle/family/irish-mum-opens-up-longing-8976426

walshb

youwould wrote: »

The Ram and his real life wife are gonna be on Adoption Stories tomorrow night on TV3 at 8.30pm.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/theres-not-a-day-that-goes-by-when-i-dont-think-about-him-tv3s-popular-adoption-stories-is-back-with-more-touching-accounts-35102279.html

You have to ask. Why on earth did she give him up?

youwould

walshb wrote: »

You have to ask. Why on earth did she give him up?

Financial reasons and her age at the time (19). Life is different for everyone.

walshb

youwould wrote: »

Financial reasons and her age at the time (19). Life is different for everyone.

But reading that story it's an odd one. Family, siblings, connection. No real mention of hardship or dire financial concerns etc. It seems far from a lost cause. Far from it. "Not sure" she could support the child. Holy god, half the country face that! To me it seems odd. Wrong.

"Emer's family, including her parents and three sisters, also had a chance to meet the little boy and fell in love instantly; none of them wanted to let him go."

So, why was he let go?

The Talking Bread

walshb wrote: »

You have to ask. Why on earth did she give him up?

Read the article.

Adoption happens everyday. Look at the positive aspects I always say. Without people having that choice others may not have the opportunity to have kids.

walshb

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Read the article.

Adoption happens everyday. Look at the positive aspects I always say. Without people having that choice others may not have the opportunity to have kids.

I did read the article, hence my question. :rolleyes: Article Seems very vague, with flimsy reasons for giving up the most precious thing in life.

walshb

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Read the article.

Look at the positive aspects I always say. Without people having that choice others may not have the opportunity to have kids.

I don't need to conflate the two.

youwould

walshb wrote: »

I did read the article, hence my question. :rolleyes: Article Seems very vague, with flimsy reasons for giving up the most precious thing in life.

Being pregnant is not the 'most precious thing in life' for every woman. At age 19 most of us would be severely ill-equipped mentally, emotionally and financially to become a parent. Emer did what she felt was best for her son and for herself and that is that.

walshb

youwould wrote: »

. Emer did what she felt was best for her son and for herself and that is that.

Maybe she did, and maybe she didn't. Not every woman or girl gives up their baby with the best interests of the baby. Maybe, just maybe some are thinking of the bests interest for them. Humans can be selfish.

Anyway, reading that article, if I was her son I'd tell her where to go. There may be a lot more to it, but I am only going on what the article is saying.

BTW, I didn't say being pregnant was the most precious thing in life. But without doubt, life itself is D most precious. Not to all it seems.

The article reads to me that woman got pregnant, lad ran off, woman thought screw this I couldn't be arsed looking after this baby, interfering with my life. Sure the easy and selfish way out is to give baby up.

I am only speaking about this article. I am aware that there are circumstances and individual cases.

coolhull

youwould wrote: »

Being pregnant is not the 'most precious thing in life' for every woman. At age 19 most of us would be severely ill-equipped mentally, emotionally and financially to become a parent. Emer did what she felt was best for her son and for herself and that is that.

Well said, youwould. everyone has their own story to tell, and none of us can pass judgement on anyone else's motives for the things they may have done in the past Like you said "and that is that"
However, there's a separate Boards forum for Adoption, why don't we keep this one for the wonderful, suspenseful, heart-stopping mysteries that make up the everyday life of Carringstown folk?!!

walshb

coolhull wrote: »

Well said, youwould. everyone has their own story to tell, and none of us can pass judgement on anyone else's motives for the things they may have done in the past Like you said "and that is that"

Of course we can pass judgement. That's exactly what we do as humans. It's what makes us so. We do it all the time. In this case I have passed it as negative based off what the article says. Maybe with more information I could change that judgement, but the bottom line is that we most definitely can, and do pass judgement.