Tesla Model 3

ecdl_2000

kuro68k wrote: »

UK prices as follows.

Base price £42,400. Luxury Car Tax £1,600. Total £44,000.

Hire Purchase (no PCP available) is £710/month, plus luxury car tax from year 2.

This info does not match Tesla UK website. Where did you get it?

Mickeroo

unkel wrote: »

Damn! I noticed something funny about the dates alright, but it looked like it was live when I came across it on YT by accident. I saw the original launch live alright last year.

There was a live launch yesterday around 11 or noon our time, they landed all three rockets which they had not managed to do before.

Soarer

Just watched the Flavin video, and there's someone called cros13 (;)) posted that it'll start at €44k.

cros has always seemed to have his finger on the pulse.

Kilboor

ecdl_2000 wrote: »

This info does not match Tesla UK website. Where did you get it?

I assume hes quoting pre tax incentives. Tesla website includes grants etc

September1

What is difference between European and US versions apart from CCS port?

Mike9832

Soarer wrote: »

Just watched the Flavin video, and there's someone called cros13 (;)) posted that it'll start at €44k.

cros has always seemed to have his finger on the pulse.

44k haha 😂

Elon said 30k years ago

https://electrek.co/2016/01/29/tesla-elon-musk-model-3-cost-uk/

Elon your a spoofer

Soarer

September1 wrote: »

What is difference between European and US versions apart from CCS port?

Steering wheel on opposite side!

I'll get me coat.

Soarer

Mike9832 wrote: »

44k haha ��

Elon said 30k years ago

https://electrek.co/2016/01/29/tesla-elon-musk-model-3-cost-uk/

Elon your a spoofer

Oh, the irony!

Shefwedfan

September1 wrote: »

What is difference between European and US versions apart from CCS port?

Uk English v US English

WattsUp

Kilboor wrote: »

I assume hes quoting pre tax incentives. Tesla website includes grants etc

UK price is £38,900 including £3500 grant
Price before grant is then £42,400
Price without VAT is then £42,400 / 1.2 = £35,333
Pre VAT UK price in Euro = £35,333/.85 = €41568...This is about €2000 more than pre tax prices in other euro countries :-(

Irish price would be approx
€41,568 * 1.23 (VAT) * 1.14(VRT) - 5000(VRT rebate) - 5000( grant )

Expect we are looking at around €48,200 and possibly additional delivery costs from UK to Ireland....The €49K numbers mentioned yesterday look real.

I'm out!

slave1

September1 wrote: »

What is difference between European and US versions apart from CCS port?

Soarer wrote: »

Steering wheel on opposite side!

I'll get me coat.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Uk English v US English

I'd imagine there would be software differences too with traffic on "opposite" side of the road

Mickeroo

slave1 wrote: »

I'd imagine there would be software differences too with traffic on "opposite" side of the road

I think the US version comes with Freedom as standard also.

Mike9832

20rothmans wrote: »

UK price is £38,900 including £3500 grant
Price before grant is then £42,400
Price without VAT is then £42,400 / 1.2 = £35,333
Pre VAT UK price in Euro = £35,333/.85 = €41568...This is about €2000 more than pre tax prices in other euro countries :-(

Irish price would be approx
€41,568 * 1.23 (VAT) * 1.14(VRT) - 5000(VRT rebate) - 5000( grant )

Expect we are looking at around €48,200 and possibly additional delivery costs from UK to Ireland....The €49K numbers mentioned yesterday look real.

I'm out!

Its terribly sad cause VW, Nissan, Hyundai etc can continue to charge what they like now

Model 3 was supposed to be a market changer, its done the bloody opposite now

Fair play to the lads who bought Ioniq, Leaf40, eGolf etc over the last few years ye got that one bang on, Ioniq on the road for 25k was especially savage value

Waiting on that clown Musk was a huge mistake

Johnboy1951

It seems the $35 Tesla becomes a $55 Tesla here, based on above calculations plus a small amount for UK/IE transport/delivery.

ted1

Mike9832 wrote: »

44k haha 😂

Elon said 30k years ago

https://electrek.co/2016/01/29/tesla-elon-musk-model-3-cost-uk/

Elon your a spoofer

44k eur= 37,823
30k gbp = 33k with present exchange rates

So a different of 4,800 GBP

but is that for the SR or SR+?

dingledosser

UK configurator is live. Prices are:

olearydc

slave1 wrote: »

I'd imagine there would be software differences too with traffic on "opposite" side of the road

Good point, wonder if you could change that on the fly - -ie if you went to France for example on Holiday, wonder how that would work driving on the other side of the road

Neworder79

Model 3 Standard Plus:
Rear-Wheel Drive
Solid Black (No Silver , G/B £950, W £1450, R £1900)
All Balck Interior (White £950)
Partial Premium Interior
18" Aero Wheels (19’’ Sport Wheels £1450)
Autopilot (Steer, Accelerate and brake automatically)
Full self driving computer (Nav, Auto lane change, Summon, Auto Park) £4900 extra, £6,800 upgrade if added after delivery

Partial Premium Interior Includes:
Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
Auto dimming, power folding, heated side mirrors
Music and media over Bluetooth ®
Custom driver profiles
12-way power adjustable heated front seats
Premium seat material and trim
Upgraded audio – immersive sound
Standard maps & navigation
LED fog lamps
Centre console with storage, 4 USB ports and docking for 2 smartphones


Cash Price £38,900*
Includes VAT of approx. £6,483
Includes destination and documentation fee of £850
Includes UK Plug-In Car Grant of £3,500

liamog

Advertising with the "Estimated Savings" should be banned.

Sabre Man

ted1 wrote: »

44k eur= 37,823
30k gbp = 33k with present exchange rates

So a different of 4,800 GBP

but is that for the SR or SR+?

SR is only available by request, not online.

Mickeroo

That puts the standard range plus around the same price as a UK spec 64kwh Kona? That's not too bad....

ted1

Sabre Man wrote: »

SR is only available by request, not online.

So his 30k price at the time was more or less right as the exchange rate has changed.

Mike9832

Mickeroo wrote: »

That puts the standard range plus around the same price as a UK spec 64kwh Kona? That's not too bad....

Kona is 32k in UK

Gumbo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

It seems the $35 Tesla becomes a $55 Tesla here, based on above calculations plus a small amount for UK/IE transport/delivery.

Not exactly. Again you are not quoting like for like.

The $35k M3 was the standard Version.
What you are quoting at 55k is the Plus version.

Johnboy1951

kceire wrote: »

Not exactly. Again you are not quoting like for like.

The $35k M3 was the standard Version.
What you are quoting at 55k is the Plus version.

So what does the standard version come out as using similar calculations?

Gumbo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

So what does the standard version come out as using similar calculations?

Not sure as its an order you cannot do online, same as in the US. You have to call to a dealership to order it.

slave1

With the Long Range premium at £47k that will have to hit used Model S prices, especially the pre-face lift models

Mickeroo

Mike9832 wrote: »

Kona is 32k in UK

On the hyundai UK website its 38k for the top spec 64kwh. 32k is the 40kwh version I think.

Shefwedfan

So the cheapest Tesla available on website is 38k UKP? correct?

unkel

ted1 wrote: »

So his 30k price at the time was more or less right as the exchange rate has changed.

He was. Considering there is now £1k less incentives and the £2k Autopilot option is now standard.

ted1

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So the cheapest Tesla available on website is 38k UKP? correct?

Correct. But the SR should be available by calling the sales office it going into store.

Old diesel

So in theory our 49 k* Irish model 3 could actually be able to be got for a lower figure by going for the SR instead of SR+????.

*SPECULATED

slave1

I'd imagine the SR has the same battery as the SR+ but software restricted...can't find reference to this anywhere though, 50kWh battery??

Mickeroo

Is the "SR" the fabled $35k base model? (or as close as we will ever get to that at least)

slave1

Old diesel wrote: »

So in theory our 49 k* Irish model 3 could actually be able to be got for a lower figure by going for the SR instead of SR+????.

*SPECULATED

Yes, €3k-4k cheaper I'd imagine but you'd also be taking a step back on the interior, losing 12-way power adjustable heated front seats; Premium seat material and trim; Upgraded audio – immersive sound; LED fog lamps; Docking for 2 smartphones

slave1

Mickeroo wrote: »

Is the "SR" the fabled $35k base model? (or as close as we will ever get to that at least)

Yes and not a fable, already shipped in the US

Dont be at yourself

Somebody in the Tesla Model 3 UK Facebook group asked and was told that the SR won't be available in the UK. It's pretty clear that Tesla don't really want to sell it, other than to deliver on Musk's promise of a $35K car. The SR+ is a big jump in quality for the price in any case.

Shefwedfan

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Somebody in the Tesla Model 3 UK Facebook group asked and was told that the SR won't be available in the UK. It's pretty clear that Tesla don't really want to sell it, other than to deliver on Musk's promise of a $35K car. The SR+ is a big jump in quality for the price in any case.

It was announced, then a few weeks later it was pulled. You can order now via calling the support and then getting them to put a OTA software update to restrict the car.....



Even some of the Tesla pro website said it had to be launched just to say they did it, I dont expect anyone in Europe will ever get a chance to buy

Dont be at yourself

Looking again at pricing in UK and other European markets, there's a fairly consistent €10K step from SR+ to LR to P.

The gap from Model 3 Performance to base Model S is not quite as consistent -- roughly €18K in UK, only €14K in Austria. We already pay €5-6K more than our continental cousins for the S or X, so hopefully we see a bigger gap between the two.

Worst case scenario:
SR+: €53K
LR: €63K
Performance: €73K

Best case scenario:
SR+: €45K
LR: €55K
Performance: €65K

Split the difference -- most likely to me:
SR+: €49K
LR: €59K
Performance: €69K

^all after taxes, grants and includes delivery, but no paint, FSD.

Shefwedfan

Ahh to be honest it is all too confusing...so many prices....better off just waiting for the online config tool and seeing how much the bloody thing costs

Villain

Finance in UK seems very saucy at 5.4%, will be interesting to see PCP prices here.

Mike9832

Villain wrote: »

Finance in UK seems very saucy at 5.4%, will be interesting to see PCP prices here.

Think Tesla have blew it in the UK

They were banking on serious sales boost there

Not gonna happen now

38,000 sterling after government incentive is like 50,000 usd, crazy price and crap finance rates like u mentioned

Looking on the UK forums see alot of them cancelling orders and talking about VW 0% pcp email that came out today about VW ID

Creamy Goodness

someone on my twitter got an email saying the model 3 is coming to Ireland, anyone with a reservation get anything? He didn't share the full email :pac:

kuro68k

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Somebody in the Tesla Model 3 UK Facebook group asked and was told that the SR won't be available in the UK. It's pretty clear that Tesla don't really want to sell it, other than to deliver on Musk's promise of a $35K car. The SR+ is a big jump in quality for the price in any case.

The Standard Range $35k is a compliance car, built only to meet Musk's promise and losing money for Tesla.

They don't really make them - it was going to have a cloth interior, downgraded sound system, smaller battery etc. In fact it's just an SR+ with the leather interior and all the other bits, with the battery pack software limited to reduce the range.

And not for sale in Europe, and probably never will be. Even the SR+ is borderline for Tesla, they really need to upsell extras like paint (€2100 for red!)

kuro68k

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Looking again at pricing in UK and other European markets, there's a fairly consistent €10K step from SR+ to LR to P.

In the UK the upgrade from SR+ to LR is £9,000.

kuro68k

Mickeroo wrote: »

On the hyundai UK website its 38k for the top spec 64kwh. 32k is the 40kwh version I think.

Kia Niro 64kWh is £33k. Paint is £500, no other options available.

It's a bit annoying because they downgraded the interior a bit - even the UK website shows the higher spec one, but you can't get it yet.

Bad news is that both the Niro and Kona are sold out and estimated waiting times are a year now.

Leaf 62kWh should be easier to get but it's not cheap and most people are waiting to see if the battery has any cooling.

Sabre Man

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

someone on my twitter got an email saying the model 3 is coming to Ireland, anyone with a reservation get anything? He didn't share the full email :pac:

I just got it.

Starting today Model 3 will be on display at Tesla Dublin Sandyford.
Join us to be among the first in Ireland to sit inside Model 3 and experience the expansive glass roof, premium interior and 15-inch touchscreen display.
Model 3 is designed to attain the highest safety ratings in every category and achieves up to 560km (WLTP) of range.

There is also a link that leads to the following:


Meet Model 3 in Dublin

Tesla Dublin Sandyford
92 Bracken Road Sandyford
Dublin , Ireland

April 30 — June 30
Mon - Fri 09:00 - 18:00 | Sat 09:00 - 17:00 | Sun: CLOSED

Starting 30th April, Model 3 will be on display at Tesla Dublin Sandyford.

Visit us to be among the first to sit inside Model 3 and experience the expansive glass roof, premium interior and 15-inch touchscreen display.

Reservation holders will get priority access.

Please note that test drives with Model 3 will not be available.

Creamy Goodness

Thanks, pretty much a lot of info we already know and zero info that we want at this stage, the price :pac:

Shefwedfan

I got one email about the ID and then very next email was about the Tesla Model 3

Finally we are getting some competition in the BEV market

jusmeig

Got am email too, find it strange they are displaying it with no pricing. I'll venture out tomorrow for a gander in the flesh.