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Time.....is never time at all....v2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    cheers guys, managed to limit any damage from the London work trip and was home yesterday in bed by 9pm with today off so plenty of time now to rest, hydrate and eat carbs.

    Did 4 with 2 @ PMP on Tuesday before I left with MP miles of 7.10 and 7.14 which felt fine. Gonna do 5 easy today and a 20 mins looserer tommorow.

    Been going back over my training block on Strava and yes, I do need reminding that I've done a pretty solid training block, very consistent in the long runs & medium long runs, many comfortably at 10% of 7.10 MP pace.

    Had a dream overnight that I slept in the morning of the race, ha, taper madness is alive and well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭overpronator


    Best of luck chief. Very good training so be confident man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    take it handy from entering the park up to Myo's - Marathon effort not pace. Loosing a min here is no big deal -you'll be feeling fresh and tempted to go gung ho.
    Plenty of time to make it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭snailsong


    Best of luck, S. Have a good one.
    Hopefully run in to you somewhere at the weekend.

    But not in the race!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Best of luck tomorrow S.
    Things seem to be falling into place at just the right time for you so it should go well ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    3.15.25

    Really happy, started out at 7.15 pace through halfway in 1.36 but wheels came off thereafter. Delighted with my resolve to get a decent PB as it got fairly hairy!! (Running that is, my actual hair had a tremendous performance)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Well done, you looked comfortable at 17 miles!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Nice run S, especially since you felt uncomfortable so far out.
    Sub 3:10 next time ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    So it’s been 3 years since my last proper marathon attempt – a lot of has changed since then for me, new house, new job, professional qualification, a child and I’ve watched with envy as many of my peers have continued to progress to sub three levels. Nonetheless, running for me has primarily been about the headspace – a chance for “me time” and my own form of relaxation. It’s been great for both my physical and mental health.

    Life had settled down to a certain extent this year which opened out a window to train over the summer. I have been dipping in and out between sessions at Trinity and the club, but race times had been disappointing. After a good chat with AK after a disappointing 10k in Dunshaughlin, I dusted off the P & D plan and solely focused on that for the initial training period.

    I really enjoyed the training – the mid-week MLR was very challenging but I felt this was key to building strength, with clear progression as the weeks went on, so I came into this marathon in optimum shape. MP runs had been in the range of 7.10 – 7.25 and after much deliberation I decided to set out at the higher end of 7.15 and go for it. Bronze goal was a PB, Silver was sub 3.15 and Gold 3.10.

    Miles 1-5 were all about trying to settle into a groove but I found it hard to keep a constant pace as particular going into Stoneybatter we approached an incline, I was careful to heed the advice given to me not to push too hard here or up Chesterfield Avenue which I heeded, leaving the 3.10 pacers alone as they passed me out – 7.09, 7.06, 7.34, 7.14, 7.18

    Miles 6-10 continued on a similar path but I was a little concerned about my HR – about 5 BPM higher than what this effort usually feels like, I wasn’t feeling in the zone, and felt a little tight all over to be honest, which was strange. Went through 10k in 46 mins. Dark clouds were forming in my mind and I didn’t enjoy the climb through Castleknock until we reached one of the bands who were playing a U2 song which I like that lifted the spirits. As we came back into the Park I needed to pull over for a pitstop which probably cost me a crucial 20 seconds or so. 7.17, 7.20, 6.59, 7.14, 7.04

    Miles 11-15, from Inchicore through Balleyfermot, I was starting to suffer. Something was not right with me but I couldn’t put my finger on it. I felt sluggish and lethargic. Trying to stay positive I focused on the crowds and the support, high fiving a few kids and thanking the spectators. Average pace was 7.15 at this stage so bang on target. I got through half way in 1.36 which had me in line for a 3.12 which I would have been delighted with but things took a turn for the worse going up the Crumlin Road. My HR was touching my LT zone, way too high, and the pace was decreasing at the same time. People were passing me out and the temptation to stop was growing. 7.31, 7.15, 7.16, 7.40, 7.20, 7.29

    Miles 16-20 see's me running through home turf, by my family at the KCR and the club around Terenure. I knew once we hit Walkinstown that the course became favourable so was hoping to kick on from there but I just didn’t have it me. This was very disappointing and despite the cheers from friends and club mates and my smiles and waves, I was putting a brave face on it – I was really feeling terrible. Going up the Fortfield Road, AK came alongside me….I really wanted to latch on to him and run side by side for a while but I was fading….I knew he could sense it too and fair play to him, he told me straight, don’t drop the head, stay positive. 7.23, 7.31, 7.26, 7.30, 7.25

    Miles 21 & 22 – well, these nearly broke me. Milltown and Clonskeagh. I had run these roads many a time in the past 3 months specifically to prepare me for this moment. I switched the watch to focus on average pace – it was now at 7.22 – I needed to keep this below 7.27 to get the PB. To my horror these miles came in at 7.38 and 7.55 – the battle was truly on!

    Miles 23 & 24 – This is the point where I felt I could do well in, after Roebuck Hill, as it’s a straight run home more or less. The P & D book says this is the part you should relish, having trained better than most others, and true to form, even though I was feeling like death on legs, I was now starting to overtake people. Each person I overtook, I visualised drawing some energy from them and using it myself and as I forced myself down Nutley lane I was starting to feel a whole lot better. Mile 23 – 7.31, Mile 24, 7.26.

    Mile 25 & 26 – Time for some maths – the urge to stop was mighty but the aim now was to protect the PB – I reasoned 2 x 8.30 mile would get me in under 3.17 but if I gave it a good rattle I might sneak in under 3.15 – ok so, take it easy, don’t panic, forget the watch now, and just go as fast as you can….so there was nothing more to do but get the head down and truck on….I started again to focus on the spectators to keep my mind occupied from the pain, was great to see a few familiar faces on Northumberland Road, particular Paul O Meara who gave me a great shout out…..Another friend of mine Sean gave me an almighty roar going over the bridge and now I tried to lap up the amazing crowds from either side of the road….7.43, 7.42

    I gave it everything I had in the final 800ms – overtook a few people and was running at 6.44 pace….saw the clock and realised I had a 3.15 in the bag – 3.15.21 @7.24 pace to be exact. My initial thoughts? Utter delirium at getting a PB and having survived such an arduous experience with a positive finale.
    In a lovely way to bookend this training cycle, I met AK again at the end who had been expecting the worst after seeing me suffering in Terenure, was great to tell him I got a PB and also to tell the good news to overpronator who I’ve raced with plenty of times over the past 4 years.

    Afterthoughts?

    I’ve achieved a time I feel like I deserve and give or take 2 minutes, is within the right range for my level of fitness and the work I’ve put in. For that I am very proud. The marathon is a beast like no other and you can never take for granted the time you expect to achieve - I really had to dig it out and this shows in my HR readings which are off the charts.

    Not sure why I felt so lethargic so early on – it’s a bit of a mystery. Midweek travel maybe? Taper too long at 3 weeks? Interrupted sleep Friday and Saturday night? Who knows. What I am certain however is that I played the best hand possible with the cards that were dealt to me on the day and for that I can sleep easy, a job well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Serious cajones for digging it out over last 4 miles when many would have thrown in the towel, great racing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Back in Black


    Wow. You really dug deep to get home. Fantastic stuff. Delighted for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Thats superb, really pleased for you.

    You are right, I thought you were fried when I met you- seriously well done on toughing it out - that'll stand to you in many a race to come.
    Congratulations on the PB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭PaulieYifter


    Congrats - you looked in good shape when I gave you a shout - good enough shape to acknowledge the cheering anyway. Well done on not letting the fact you didn't feel in the groove early on put you off - its easy to throw in the towel in a marathon but it goes to show the reward you can get if you just keep trucking along.

    I'm sure there's more to come - especially if you keep spending a few lunches with that speedy TT crew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭snailsong


    Good man, S. Mentally strong, always key. You should be proud of that pb. And more to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Good Stuff TW, a PB is a PB. More importantly though, how did the hair hold up ? Nothing worse than running through the finish with a rumpled barnet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    PaulieC wrote: »
    Good Stuff TW, a PB is a PB. More importantly though, how did the hair hold up ? Nothing worse than running through the finish with a rumpled barnet.

    I'll let the strava comments answer that!

    https://www.strava.com/activities/760449074


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Myles Splitz


    Super run. Sounds like you earned that PB the hard way. Great achievement to be able to do it when you were battling mentally so early in. Much respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Congrats on the PB TW. I have been following your log with interest for a while now mainly because your goals for DCM(3:10) and your training(P&D) were similar to mine. Coincidently I had a similar race to you, I found it tough going from the start and I suffered badly in the last 6 miles but like yourself I got a PB. Well done on digging deep and getting a result that you are happy with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Thanks for the feedback and responses folks, much appreciated.

    Having reflected on where I want to get too, I think I need to spend a substantial chunk of time on speed work. I also think my lack of core strength is holding me back. Endurance and resolve seem like my strong points.

    So.....I think the most efficient way for me improve times is to re introduce personalised strength training into my schedule along side 1/2 speed sessions a week.

    To that end I am contemplating hiring a personal trainer for the strength work & am targeting the Raheny 5 in January for a PB and will take it from there.


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