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What worked for you for dribble rash?

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  • 05-04-2016 2:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭


    My eczema prone little girl has had patches of red dry dribble rash on her neck and chin on and off for the last few months. I can't get rid of it no matter what I try. It flares up after eating as she tends to rub food all over her face, and she also scratches at it which makes it worse. My gp says that some babies just have reactive skin and to keep trying different creams until we find something that works.

    The La Roche Posay cicoplast cream made it worse. Sudocreme relieves it a little but it comes back as soon as she eats again. We use Cetaphil on her skin for eczema but it does nothing for this. Aquaphor, E45 and other similar emollients make her skin bad. The only thing that takes it away properly is 1% Cortopin, but it comes back after a few days and obviously we can't keep using cortisone on her face.

    She is teething like mad at the moment and all of the dribbling is making it worse again so I'd love any suggestions of how to clear it up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    My eczema prone little girl has had patches of red dry dribble rash on her neck and chin on and off for the last few months. I can't get rid of it no matter what I try. It flares up after eating as she tends to rub food all over her face, and she also scratches at it which makes it worse. My gp says that some babies just have reactive skin and to keep trying different creams until we find something that works.

    The La Roche Posay cicoplast cream made it worse. Sudocreme relieves it a little but it comes back as soon as she eats again. We use Cetaphil on her skin for eczema but it does nothing for this. Aquaphor, E45 and other similar emollients make her skin bad. The only thing that takes it away properly is 1% Cortopin, but it comes back after a few days and obviously we can't keep using cortisone on her face.

    She is teething like mad at the moment and all of the dribbling is making it worse again so I'd love any suggestions of how to clear it up.

    Try the lansinoh nipple cream, it's very soothing - it's pricey but it does the job. Works well as a barrier too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I use sudocreme under his dodo at night to heal it and Vaseline at every meal to prevent it. Means washing face to remove Vaseline at meals but that's ok. No excema here but skin flares with citrus and anything acidic at the best of times. When teething it gets really bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Keep it dry rather than keeping it wet. Caldesene powder. Thin layer. Blow off any excess. Cleared ip in a few days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    What age is your daughter?

    My eldest is excema prone, and had food allergies. When she was small, she would get a rash from loads of things, including wool (bye bye carpet in our house).

    Anyway, we did a lot of wiping with food on her face, especially if it was tomato based or was acidic, like oranges, raspberries. We had a warm damp facecloth on the go while she was eating. (She objected less to a warm one)

    Also, keep her dry. Bib on, a cloth one over a plastic one. another one on top of that if needed.

    We used a Soother/dummy as well, as she seemed to drool less with the dummy (basically swallowed the saliva instead of it coming down her chin).

    The drool passes as they learn to control the saliva in their mouths a bit better. Food on face takes longer!


  • Moderators Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭ChewChew


    Silcocks base is the only thing that worked here! But most times that I wipe her chin I put a thin layer of Vaseline on her chin and that seem to have helped loads!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    Ooh I have some lansinoh so I'll definitely give that a go :) Silicocks base brings her out in spots so that's out. I will also try keeping it dry and avoiding food face but it's difficult as we are doing blw so she's fairly headstrong when it comes to intervention at dinner time :D Also she has an awful habit of sticking her tongue out and liking any cream or powder I apply so I'm wary of using anything too strong :o

    She's 14 months. We have always had a problem with acidic food giving her a contact rash and we did have a bit of an issue with a cow's milk allergy but she has been doing well with the milk ladder and no longer gets the allergy rash from milk products. Interestingly, I had noticed that the rash has been worse since we started the milk ladder but this also coincided with a lot of teething so it's hard to tell if the dairy is really making it worse. It is definitely a dribble rash though and very different to the allergic reaction rashes she used to get. Plus, it flares up even when she hasn't had any dairy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    Definitely lansinoh nipple cream - it works wonders!


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭WoollyWoman


    We use coconut oil here. Works well. Smells nice too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭contrary_mary


    My son got a really terrible dribble rash and in the end we had to get a strong steroid cream on prescription to clear it. Once fully healed we used Epaderm ointment as a barrier until he grew out of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭ainy


    I used the moo goo irritable skin balm, alternated that with sudo cream and it worked well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    +1 for the coconut oil. I have an eczema prone girl of 16 months , dairy wheat/grains, bananas , pears and soap and wool set her off. I've cleared it completely now with larger doses of vitamin D. I've been on it myself for allergies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭sillysocks


    I used Lanisoh on pretty much any skin conditions my two had when they were babies.always worked and for dry skin on fingers,lips etc at least I didn't have to worry if they were licking it off :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    I use coconut oil myself to cleanse my super sensitive face and find it brilliant :) Interesting about the vitamin d, I'll have to read up on that. I've put lansinoh on a few times today and the rash isn't as bad so I'll see how much it has improved tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    If you Google allergies and vitamin D deficiency you get a good list of information. There was a doctor on the Anton Savage show a few months ago on about it.
    I'm currently on 20,000iu of vitamin D per day for the last 3 years for my anaphylactic reaction to an unknown trigger. I can take paracetamol again which I haven't been able to since a reaction 23 years ago. Some would call it quackery but I am and my daughter is benefiting from the results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    Definitely worth a try cbyrd thanks :)

    I've been putting the 1% cream on her chin twice a day and applying lansinoh 3-4 times and the rash has almost cleared. Wiping away any food while she's eating has helped an awful lot too. I'm going to try not using the steroid cream today and keep going with the lansinoh just to see how we get on :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    1 day without the hydrocortisone and the rash is coming back argh! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    We are still battling this terrible rash :( I brought her to the gp last month who advised us to cut back on her soother and try and keep it dry etc. So we got rid of her soother, except at bed/nap time, and started applying caldescene to dry it out and vaseline as a barrier. It looked like it was working but then got worse again :(

    Took her back to the gp the other day and he prescribed fucidin, which I have been using, but no major improvement yet. Our biggest problem now is that she is constantly licking around her lips or sucking on her fingers and dribbling out, and nothing I do stops her :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    We are still battling this terrible rash :( I brought her to the gp last month who advised us to cut back on her soother and try and keep it dry etc. So we got rid of her soother, except at bed/nap time, and started applying caldescene to dry it out and vaseline as a barrier. It looked like it was working but then got worse again :(

    Took her back to the gp the other day and he prescribed fucidin, which I have been using, but no major improvement yet. Our biggest problem now is that she is constantly licking around her lips or sucking on her fingers and dribbling out, and nothing I do stops her :rolleyes:
    Ah, he's trying an antibiotic. Next thing he will try is an antifungal probably.

    If she's 14 months, she's well able to swallow the saliva at this stage, it's sounds like she is touching her face all the time. It's probably getting into a bit of a vicious circle now... the rash is probably itchy or a bit sore, which makes her go at it, and that makes it worse again... plus gets her into the habit of touching it constantly.

    Breaking that habit now will be tricky, it will need to be clear for a bit until she breaks that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭sillysocks


    This might not be something you want to try but I've heard nothing but good things about a company called Willow Cottage natural skincare (you can google them). Apparently their products work wonders for rashes and irritated skin. I know someone who stopped medication for nappy rash after using their products. It's all natural so maybe worth a try anyway.
    They were on the Late Late a while ago and had loads of success stories with all types of skin conditions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I swear by Vaseline and orabase mixed together as a barrier: you can use orabase for mouth ulcers so it's safe too. I use it for dribble rash and nappy rash!!

    We've used fucidin too and it worked in a few days. She's 2 and 2 months but it's still something we get but the orabase and Vaseline helps when she's going through a bad outbreak.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    Yeah pwurple, I think the patch under her lip is dry and sore so she licks it to moisturise it and this in turn makes it worse. Literally as soon as I wipe it dry out comes the tongue to lick it again :rolleyes: And sure the fist is always up at the gob then too.

    I'm a sucker for natural handmade cosmetics so I'll check out the willow cottage stuff thanks :) I've never heard of orabase but it looks like very handy stuff to have in the house (I get wicked canker sores occasionally) Can you only get it in chemists?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    Yup in the chemist... I use it straight on mouth ulcers it's a paste (and I have 11 in my mouth at the moment I wouldn't be able to eat without it!). Mix with Vaseline for dribble or nappy rash. Use it for hand foot and mouth too! It was the hosp that originally recommended it to me for S.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭orchidsrpretty


    Maybe you are not using the hydrocortisone for long enough? I was using steroids with my daughter every two weeks or so for two three days until her flares calmed down(on recommendation from the gp). It was a vicious cycle. When we had our first dermatologist appointment he said we weren't using the steroid for long enough. We used it for two straight weeks and reduced freq. we haven't had to use the cream now for over two months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    No, I was definitely using the hydrocortisone consistently for long enough. The doctor had to warn me twice to stop :eek:

    The rash has gotten worse again and spread :( The fucidin made no difference after a week and the orabase made it sorer. I was so desperate, I tried putting a teeny bit of canesten on it (just in case it was fungal) and it got a small bit better but not much.

    This evening it flared up terribly again and I had enough of it so we headed into the out of hours gp. He seemed to think it was viral but wouldn't be drawn on which particular virus he thinks caused it. He prescribed zovirax suspension and wants to see us again on Friday to follow up. I presume he thinks it is a cold sore, chicken pox or hand foot and mouth. I don't care at this stage, I just want the bloody thing gone! It started out as a small spot on my daughter's chin and is now the whole way around her mouth :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    Agh mrspostman sounds awful. Hope the Zovirax clears it up...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    So do I, the bloody bottle of stuff was €53 :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I thought it was more than that! It's expensive but it did work here when S was on it for cold sores. It was a primary infection though (herpetic stomatitis).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    How is the rash now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    There wasn't much improvement during the week. We had to go back to the gp on Friday for an update and he said he still thought it was viral and told me to start using the hydrocortisone again on top of the anti viral meds to see if that helped. It has improved a bit since then thank god :) Due back to see the gp this evening for another update and if it hasn't improved enough he will refer us to a skin specialist. Thankfully my little girl has stopped dribbling and chewing as much so that's probably helping too.

    I wasn't convinced that the rash was viral myself but when I think about it now, it does look very similar to the face spots she got when she had hfm with the redness and flaking etc. It didn't start out like that, it was more like dribble rash in the beginning, but maybe she did pick up an infection in it recently. I'm just glad that it seems to be clearing up :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    STILL haven't gotten rid of the rash :( It seemed to clear up with the hydrocortisone, I used it for a week and then spent 3 extra days tapering it off and the rash was almost gone. But within 2 days of stopping the cream it was back again :(

    Went back to the Dr and he thought it might have gotten reinfected so prescribed a low dose oral antibiotic plus an antibiotic barrier ointment. We have stopped her eating dairy again on the off chance that it's connected.

    The rash seems to clear up for a day or 2 and then gets really red again suddenly without warning. We cannot figure out what might be causing it. My little girl isn't even drooling as much now so I thought it would have been clearing up. I'm really demented from it and paranoid about it now. I'm tired of explaining to people that she's not contagious etc. It doesn't seem to bother her at all though :pac:


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