Alan Partridge Superthread - Sponsored by Dettol

Grayditch

Singing Come Out Ye Black And Tans on BBC. Unreal.

jooksavage

In fairness to people offended by Coogan's impression, the Irish are going through a major image change. The old image of leprechauns, shamrock, Guinness, horses running through council estates, toothless simpletons, people with eyebrows on their cheeks, badly tarmac'd drives (in the UK), men in platform shoes being arrested for bombing, lots of rocks, and Beamish. People are saying "Yes. There's more to Ireland than this".

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ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

'Sunday Bloody Sunday'. What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn't it?

Excellent point!

If anything the sketch last night is also lampooning the British ignorance of Ireland as can be seen in the presenter's reactions. Up to the second line of Black and Tans they are quite happy with this quaint Irishman and his nice folk songs. Only when the IRA is mentioned does panic set in.

I would not expect the less bright of the forum to appreciate such nuance though.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Steve is one of us. As he said in The Trip, when Brydon tried an Irish accent, most English people do a supposedly generic Irish accent which isn’t like any Irish accent ever known (except when it’s an idiolect like Terry Wogan). He actually does a proper regional Irish accent - Sligo or Mayo.

The IRA here are not the Provos, of course.

jooksavage

Brylee Handsome Paprika wrote: »

Excellent point!

If anything the sketch last night is also lampooning the British ignorance of Ireland as can be seen in the presenter's reactions. Up to the second line of Black and Tans they are quite happy with this quaint Irishman and his nice folk songs. Only when the IRA is mentioned does panic set in.

I would not expect the less bright of the forum to appreciate such nuance though.

It's clear that Coogan is no stranger to the way pretty much any trad session can go from wistful ballad to rabble-rousing incitement to murder.

Ipso

Brylee Handsome Paprika wrote: »

Excellent point!

If anything the sketch last night is also lampooning the British ignorance of Ireland as can be seen in the presenter's reactions. Up to the second line of Black and Tans they are quite happy with this quaint Irishman and his nice folk songs. Only when the IRA is mentioned does panic set in.

I would not expect the less bright of the forum to appreciate such nuance though.

And of course Partidridge being non too pleased about someone not knowing who he is and taking the limelight from him.

The Rape of Lucretia

jooksavage wrote: »

It's clear that Coogan is no stranger to the way pretty much any trad session can go from wistful ballad to rabble-rousing incitement to murder.

Not sure many if any end up with murder, to be fair. Maybe before the Good Friday Agreement, but not in recent years.

fryup

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Coogan was p*sstaking the Irish, nothing at all wrong with that. We p*ss take the English all the time.

At least its wasn't the one dimensional fighting drunken Irishman so beloved of Hollywood and UK dramas. The Brennan character was an accurate portrayal of a real Irish character of a certain age.

yep, its just a mickey-take (and a funny one at that)

last week they were taking the mickey out of the scots - Aye! Aye!

and Alan Partridge himself is one big mickey-take on the middle-class english

my philosophy on life is....if you can't take it then don't dish it out, and god knows us irish love to dish it out

Credit Checker Moose

I don't see what all the fuss is about, Steve Coogan is an Irish Citizen.

fryup

I don't see what all the fuss is about, Steve Coogan is an Irish Citizen.

well, he is now after last night :P

DrumSteve

Coogan is one of the few non-irish born comedians who truly "gets" us.

Hearing come out ye black and tans and the men behind the wire on prime time BBC... Glorious.

artvanderlay

I like how they reference Pete Gabitas last night. He's a character that pops up in I,Partridge. In the past, he organised foreign girlfriends for Alan and his pals. In Alan's own words, his was probably the second best (Sonja)! But in last night's episode we find out that Pete was supplying Alan with a busty blow-up doll, presumably before Sonja.



Pete died in a drink driving accident but Alan was suspicious. He said Pete is one of the few people who is actually a better driver when drunk. On some occasions when Alan was sober, he insisted a drunk Pete drive him home, because Alan was in awe of his driving proficiency.

fryup

Coogan is one of the few non-irish born comedians who truly "gets" us.

Hearing come out ye black and tans and the men behind the wire on prime time BBC... Glorious.

is was kinda like an "in" joke that only that us irish and coogan would get

.........i say it would have flew over the head with many english

jooksavage

artvanderlay wrote: »

I like how they reference Pete Gabitas last night. He's a character that pops up in I,Partridge. In the past, he organised foreign girlfriends for Alan and his pals. In Alan's own words, his was probably the second best (Sonja)! But in last night's episode we find out that Pete was supplying Alan with a busty blow-up doll, presumably before Sonja.



Pete died in a drink driving accident but Alan was suspicious. He said Pete is one of the few people who is actually a better driver when drunk. On some occasions when Alan was sober, he insisted a drunk Pete drive him home, because Alan was in awe of his driving proficiency.

As far as I recall Alan was so unconvinced by the coroners verdict that Pete's visible drunkenness was a factor in his death, he is considering investigating it himself.

Ash.J.Williams

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Disgraceful ****e and you all lapping it up. If he'd blacked up you'd all be crying about it.

let steve explain the joke to you

"A lot of the humour I do as Alan is British prejudice against the Irish which can sound just like jokes against the Irish but it has to be put into the context of Alan's ignorance which is why we get away with it."

RickBlaine

To the people who are offended, if Pat Short had played the same character with the same script, would you be equally offended?

Duggie2012

fryup wrote: »

is was kinda like an "in" joke that only that us irish and coogan would get

.........i say it would have flew over the head with many english

Exactly this. His irish accent is spot on. Far from been insulted i thought it was genius. Anyone who was offended by that does not get coogan at all.

Big Vern

RickBlaine wrote: »

To the people who are offended, if Pat Short had played the same character with the same script, would you be equally offended?

I think those that were 'offended' have left the thread...they should be sacked for been unloyal - disloyal!

lee_baby_simms

I reckon that might go down as one of the most memorable Partridge moments ever.

steve_r

Only caught it on the rewatch but the pissy way Alan corrects the pronunciation of "H" at the start is brilliant

https://twitter.com/bbccomedy/status/1107763607327178753

Duggie2012

Who the hell is that...who the hell is that

RickBlaine

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I reckon that might go down as one of the most memorable Partridge moments ever.

I never thought they'd reach the level of the 90s shows but that was grand, lads. Mighty!

artvanderlay

Funniest bit: when Martin said "awful hot in here". That was the most old Irish man thing he could possibly have said :pac::pac:

Ipso

RickBlaine wrote: »

To the people who are offended, if Pat Short had played the same character with the same script, would you be equally offended?

Very surprised, but not offended.

Big Vern

Feeding turf to the sheep!!

sirmanga

Coogan's Irish impersonation was almost perfect. It would have been flawless if he had said "telly" instead of "TV". But that's just nitpicking. It was brilliant.

Grayditch

Sure that was tame...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNGfUYMJNY

Call me Al

ShakerMaker91 wrote: »

I'm making the point that Steve Coogan is himself Irish so it's not as if he's taking the piss out of the Irish race.. he probably grew up around old lads like his character last night

I remember him on the Late Late years and years ago (Gay Byrne era). He was talking about his uncles in Mayo and how he used their voices, language, and movements a lot in his sketches. And it's very obvious I think. He's very authentic to a certain generation and type of older gentleman I'd know from the West. He's honed all the details from absorbing them over years and years.

The Satanist

Stephen Mangan, aka DAN DAN DAN DAN DAN DAN.... DAN, his folks were from Mayo as well.

fryup

Duggie2012 wrote: »

Who the hell is that...who the hell is that

no....who the hell is dat

Alan...that! Martin....dat! Alan...that! Martin....dat! Alan...that! Martin....dat!