Indie Scene is dead 2016

IanOBo

Most of those bands, if not all of them, are old. I think the point of this thread is that there is nothing new coming through. They have been around the block for 10 years nearly

kirk buttercup

ok you missed my point. My point is that Indie bands rarely come into the Mainstream but over ten years all these bands have filtered through so at the moment lets say the 1975 are coming through into the mainstream that doesnt mean there will be a flood of Indie throughout the mainstream but their are always bands from indie scene coming through.

kirk buttercup

just had a look at the uk album charts (for the first time in about 15 years) out of curiousity and the following bands are all in it
Last shadow Puppets
1975*
Mogwai
Weezer
Walking on Cars*
Catfish and the bottlemen*
Hozier
Royal Blood*
George Ezra*
* would be considered new enough bands/ artists
it could be argued George Ezra and Hozier arent Indie but feck it they are on loads of spotify indie play lists

Texas Jack

kirk buttercup wrote: »

Some From the last while..
Arctic Monkeys 2003
Coldplay1999
Arcade fire2003
The Black keysgoing for YEARS
The Killers2004
Kings of Leon2003
The White Stripes2000
Elbow1999
Are all good examples of Indie bands that filtered into Mainstream, And before anyone starts jumping up and down about coldplay I know they dont fit everyones idea of Indie but they did start out that way. My point is you dont get a new indie band every week but over time bands do filter through it usually takes a song Like " Lonely Boy" or " seven nation army" to bring them to peoples attention but there are always new bands filtering through.

See above years

Anesthetize

kirk buttercup wrote: »

Some From the last while..
Arctic Monkeys
Coldplay
Arcade fire
The Black keys
The Killers
Kings of Leon
The White Stripes
Elbow

Coldplay and The Killers have always been major label bands as far as I can recall. They've never been indie.

kirk buttercup

Anesthetize wrote:

Coldplay and The Killers have always been major label bands as far as I can recall. They've never been indie.

Both are played on indie radio stations. And are on indie playlists reviewed and interviewed in indie magazines and played at Indie festivals. Just because you sell a lot of albums doesn't mean you're not indie. Yeah they have a more commercial polished sound. But that's getting away from the point I was trying ( unsuccessfully) to make. Bands from the indie scene do filter through but by the time you take notice most people don't consider them indie anymore e.g the killers. In my opinion bands come out we all love them, they float around for a few years then release a megahit we get a pain in our arse listening too and then they become mainstream. Indie fans then look down their nose at them, and the debate starts whether they were ever really Indie in the first place.

Anesthetize

kirk buttercup wrote: »

Both are played on indie radio stations. And are on indie playlists reviewed and interviewed in indie magazines and played at Indie festivals. Just because you sell a lot of albums doesn't mean you're not indie. Yeah they have a more commercial polished sound. But that's getting away from the point I was trying ( unsuccessfully) to make. Bands from the indie scene do filter through but by the time you take notice most people don't consider them indie anymore e.g the killers. In my opinion bands come out we all love them, they float around for a few years then release a megahit we get a pain in our arse listening too and then they become mainstream. Indie fans then look down their nose at them, and the debate starts whether they were ever really Indie in the first place.

What I meant was that they've never been on an independent record label, hence never been an indie band. If Coldplay and The Killers are indie bands then U2 are as well. It's nothing about being mainstream or not.

kirk buttercup

Anesthetize wrote:

What I meant was that they've never been on an independent record label, hence never been an indie band. If Coldplay and The Killers are indie bands then U2 are as well. It's nothing about being mainstream or not.

Fair enough. I'm more talking about being the alternative meaning of Indie. My mistake. And your right neither were on a Independent record label as far as I know.

S.M.B.

So is Adele indie or are Coldplay indie?

It's so needlessly confusingl

donfers

Finally I found a decent album from a guitar band that has been released in the last couple of months that is neither too poppy/sugary/insubstantial nor the other extreme of being weird/trippy and overly experimental

the coral - distance inbetween

I like it, I like it a lot - if any these kind of gems would appear more frequently

kirk buttercup

hate to piss on your chips but the Coral have been out since the early 2000s.
good album though.

donfers

kirk buttercup wrote: »

hate to piss on your chips but the Coral have been out since the early 2000s.
good album though.

My chips remain urine-free. I was looking for good newish albums not necessarily from new bands and of course I have known about the coral for a long time. Unlike a lot of bands their albums their albums are consistently good, almost worth the 6 year wait

WinnyThePoo

You just have to look. So much good stuff out there.

allmusic.com

is a great site IMO

loyatemu

donfers wrote: »

almost worth the 6 year wait

they had an album out in 2014 "Curse of Love" (though it was recorded some years earlier) - it's very good too.

If you like your indie with a retro angle, you might like the new Last Shadow Puppets album.

ryaner777

Try the debut album by the DMA's or The Vryll Society. Both well worth a listen and seems to fit with what you're looking for.

Blossoms also a new band out there with a slightly similar sound you might enjoy

donfers

ryaner777 wrote: »

Try the debut album by the DMA's or The Vryll Society. Both well worth a listen and seems to fit with what you're looking for.

Blossoms also a new band out there with a slightly similar sound you might enjoy

The DMA's have some cracking songs on that debut album - thanks for that comrade!

maccored

Whitey is great

A Happy Death

R.I.P

kirk buttercup

It is now RIP txfm

maccored

RIP fight like apes - too many music 'fans' think they are support music by paying spotify - meanwhile the actual people who make music can no longer afford to do so.

Howard the Duck

maccored wrote: »

RIP fight like apes - too many music 'fans' think they are support music by paying spotify - meanwhile the actual people who make music can no longer afford to do so.

In general i agree with you regarding spotify and buying music but i think in Flight like Ape's case it's more to do with the fact they never lived up to their promise after their first album, the second two albums are pretty poor.

fluke

Howard the Duck wrote: »

In general i agree with you regarding spotify and buying music but i think in Flight like Ape's case it's more to do with the fact they never lived up to their promise after their first album, the second two albums are pretty poor.

Sorry to see the likes of them and Fred (who bowed out a couple of years ago) disappear. Far more interesting than what Irish 'talent' Hot Press are adorning on their covers currently.

maccored

Howard the Duck wrote: »

In general i agree with you regarding spotify and buying music but i think in Flight like Ape's case it's more to do with the fact they never lived up to their promise after their first album, the second two albums are pretty poor.

i agree on that - first album was mainly their original live set which had been well polished by the time it was recorded. Stil though - they arent the only band finding it hard to make money whilst music fans try to get music for as little as possible. Fred were a brilliant band

Anesthetize

maccored wrote: »

RIP fight like apes - too many music 'fans' think they are support music by paying spotify - meanwhile the actual people who make music can no longer afford to do so.

Rubbish. Thousands of artists who work regular jobs and use the Bandcamp model have no issues being able to afford to make music. The cost of creating and distributing music is also far lower these days.

maccored

Anesthetize wrote: »

Rubbish. Thousands of artists who work regular jobs and use the Bandcamp model have no issues being able to afford to make music. The cost of creating and distributing music is also far lower these days.

Rubbish my arse. Im putting money down you arent a musician who has to work a day job and then try and run a business called a band. Many musicians ARE working 9-5 and then gigging. they cant fund the band business because they cant work at it full time. then they end up having to choose which job to quit, and its usually the music.

I also bet you have a spotify account

loyatemu

maccored wrote: »

I also bet you have a spotify account

anyone who is paying for Spotify (or Apple Music, Deezer etc) is spending €120 per year on recorded music. This is far more than the average spend on CDs even at the peak of the CD boom in the 90s. Arguably they should reduce the cost of premium streaming to get more people to pay for it.

lordgoat

maccored wrote: »

Rubbish my arse. Im putting money down you arent a musician who has to work a day job and then try and run a business called a band. Many musicians ARE working 9-5 and then gigging. they cant fund the band business because they cant work at it full time. then they end up having to choose which job to quit, and its usually the music.

I also bet you have a spotify account

loyatemu wrote: »

anyone who is paying for Spotify (or Apple Music, Deezer etc) is spending €120 per year on recorded music. This is far more than the average spend on CDs even at the peak of the CD boom in the 90s. Arguably they should reduce the cost of premium streaming to get more people to pay for it.

I've had a spotify account since it started and it has zero relevance to anything. Plus it saves me wasting money on ****e over priced albums. And I agree 120e a year (there are cheaper ways) is alot more than the average from back in the day.

The issue (for me) is the cut the label takes and it's a much more packed market. Sure it's cheaper and easier to get out there. But the competition also has the advantage

seachto7

I wouldn't be a Fight Like Apes fan, but remember them being popular enough at one point. Around 2007 or so. Shame to see them more or less sink without trace.

ryaner777

Anyone looking for something new check out the new album by The Urges. I was at their album launch in grand social last week and finally got a chance to listen to their new album in full this morning.

Cracking album. Highly recommend it. Especially if you liked the latest album by The Coral.

Anesthetize

maccored wrote: »

Rubbish my arse. Im putting money down you arent a musician who has to work a day job and then try and run a business called a band. Many musicians ARE working 9-5 and then gigging. they cant fund the band business because they cant work at it full time. then they end up having to choose which job to quit, and its usually the music.

I also bet you have a spotify account

Artists were getting feck all from record sales anyways because the earnings were being pumped back into distribution costs, promotion costs, and record label execs pockets. Spotify makes little or no difference since the distribution overhead is significantly less.

Also in 2016 anyone with a Mac, a Bandcamp page and some musical instruments at their disposal can put out music. It's not like you have to be a billionaire.

Finally, Fight Like Apes just became average after their first album and failed to keep the momentum going. It's their own fault really.