2016 National Champs

CramCycle · 27-05-2016 10:00am

JK.BMC wrote: »

A Sally Gap TT route would be highly unlikely - in fact it would be pretty much a disgrace if they turned what is a national elite time trial into a 12km slog up a mountain road; it would make no sense to me. That is more for club riders who want a challenge, or lads to post times on strava. Not suitable for a national championship at all.

I have no idea, trying to figure out TT courses in the area, most of them are hill climbs as far as I know, the bohernabreena one was actually the one I meant to say but that would be exactly as you described.

What courses are there in the area?

JK.BMC · 27-05-2016 10:06am

CramCycle wrote: »

I have no idea, trying to figure out TT courses in the area, most of them are hill climbs as far as I know, the bohernabreena one was actually the one I meant to say but that would be exactly as you described.

What courses are there in the area?

N81 out and back seems an obvious one; Blesso-Naas- Ballymore etc is near 30km; whatever the organisers decide it's pretty likely that some rolling roads will be involved.

CramCycle · 27-05-2016 10:12am

JK.BMC wrote: »

N81 out and back seems an obvious one; Blesso-Naas- Ballymore etc is near 30km; whatever the organisers decide it's pretty likely that some rolling roads will be involved.

I thought that but wasn't sure whether the N81 would be OK considering the horrendously stupid driving and the presuming lack of closed roads. Or will the Gardai be out providing friendly warnings to motorists to behave.

I rode most of the course last night, grown men will cry is my prediction.

Inquitus · 27-05-2016 10:18am

CramCycle wrote: »

I rode most of the course last night, grown men will cry is my prediction.

I agree, Lake Drive multiple times will really sap the legs, its deceptively difficult.

Harrybelafonte · 27-05-2016 10:18am

Didn't An Rás or another big race go up Sorrell Hill there before?

JK.BMC · 27-05-2016 10:24am

Yes - Nissan Classic one year; Martin Earley won the KOM. And I appeared on TV waving him by at the top. Wouldn't send a mountain bike race up there now, road is in pure sh1te!

Harrybelafonte · 27-05-2016 10:44am

JK.BMC wrote: »

Yes - Nissan Classic one year; Martin Earley won the KOM. And I appeared on TV waving him by at the top. Wouldn't send a mountain bike race up there now, road is in pure sh1te!

Really? That long ago? Messages still painted in the road the last time I went up. Agree, awful surface now.

1bryan · 27-05-2016 10:52am

CramCycle wrote: »

I have no idea, trying to figure out TT courses in the area, most of them are hill climbs as far as I know, the bohernabreena one was actually the one I meant to say but that would be exactly as you described.

What courses are there in the area?

a (flattish) possibility could be;

From Blessington, take the N81 back towards Dublin.
Right turn at the golf course just before Brittas
Manor Kilbride Village
First right turn just after the village
(the backroad down to the lakes)
Blessington Village

I reckon that loop would be a good 30km at least.

Or, the same route in the opposite direction to save having to take that right turn and cut across traffic. The could manage it with a partial closure of the N81 - the road is wide enough to not have to close it completely.

I wonder, is the TT route decided on yet?

harringtonp · 27-05-2016 10:59am

Have definite start times been given yet for various races ? CI page has most of them starting at 11

morana · 27-05-2016 12:34pm

1bryan wrote: »

a (flattish) possibility could be;

From Blessington, take the N81 back towards Dublin.
Right turn at the golf course just before Brittas
Manor Kilbride Village
First right turn just after the village
(the backroad down to the lakes)
Blessington Village

I reckon that loop would be a good 30km at least.

Or, the same route in the opposite direction to save having to take that right turn and cut across traffic. The could manage it with a partial closure of the N81 - the road is wide enough to not have to close it completely.

I wonder, is the TT route decided on yet?

for the RR AFAIK the loop has to be between 10km and 25kms

Irish Raven · 29-05-2016 11:48pm

Any confirmed route for this....and a link via strava or the like :-) .....its penciled in as 150km plus...

spyderski · 30-05-2016 8:16am

TGD wrote: »

Who, or what, exactly do you mean by "Cycling Ireland"?

Really? ðŸ˜³

1bryan · 30-05-2016 8:50am

might be a good excuse them to 'fix' the road surface on the bridge that crosses the lake by the Rowing club (kilbride side of Blessington), assuming that'll form part of the route, which I expect it will.

JK.BMC · 01-06-2016 10:28am

Well? Any news? TT on the N81 maybe? And what about the Hillbilly Tractors on the Sunday?

nilhg · 07-06-2016 6:29pm

JK.BMC wrote: »

Well? Any news? TT on the N81 maybe? And what about the Hillbilly Tractors on the Sunday?

Stickybottle reporting that the Champs in Wicklow isn't going to happen, mainly due to local objections, plans in place for another venue in Leinster.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/national-road-champs-in-wicklow-are-off-new-location-planned/

Hopefully third time lucky

brianomc · 07-06-2016 6:32pm

nilhg wrote: »

Stickybottle reporting that the Champs in Wicklow isn't going to happen, mainly due to local objections, plans in place for another venue in Leinster.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/national-road-champs-in-wicklow-are-off-new-location-planned/

Hopefully third time lucky

Dammit, phoenix park was on my doorstep, blessington was do-able. 2 weeks to plan this sounds tough based on how it's gone so far.

nilhg · 07-06-2016 7:31pm

brianomc wrote: »

Dammit, phoenix park was on my doorstep, blessington was do-able. 2 weeks to plan this sounds tough based on how it's gone so far.

I was kinda thinking they might consider coming out our way (Newbridge Gp circuit) could have sat at my gate and had a grandstand view, but it's Derby weekend on the Curragh so that won't be a runner, not a simple thing to organise inn two weeks

Weepsie · 07-06-2016 7:58pm

How hands on or off are CI in organising these? Do they leave it all at the hands of a club to do? Maybe I'm being naive but youd hope planning for the next one would begin the moment one finishes if not sooner.

Obviously nobody could have prepared for biden shutting down the park, and for the locals it was very short notice so can't fault them or Orwell. Could it happen that there'll be no national champs?

buffalo · 07-06-2016 9:53pm

Weepsie wrote: »

How hands on or off are CI in organising these? Do they leave it all at the hands of a club to do? Maybe I'm being naive but youd hope planning for the next one would begin the moment one finishes if not sooner.

Obviously nobody could have prepared for biden shutting down the park, and for the locals it was very short notice so can't fault them or Orwell. Could it happen that there'll be no national champs?

As StickyBottle state, plans are well advanced for the alternative, and CI have been very helpful and active in organising it. We hope to have an announcement very shortly, once everything is confirmed.

if in doubt · 07-06-2016 10:35pm

If I was the type of poster who liked to stoke up a rumour I'd say the Naas Open TT this weekend could be good prep for the nationals.

But I'm not so I won't say anything...

EAD · 07-06-2016 11:15pm

I love a good Fleetwood Mac album myself!

JK.BMC · 08-06-2016 1:22pm

EAD wrote: »

I love a good Fleetwood Mac album myself!

Ah, you can go your own way.

That's what I think

Eamonnator · 08-06-2016 11:59pm

There's a cycling report in this week's Drogheda Independent, not related to the Champs, but refers to them, by the way. It says, that they are being held in Kilcullen, Co. Kildare.
Is there any truth in this?

morana · 09-06-2016 10:00am

https://twitter.com/KilcullenDiary/status/740776701890809856
its in the Kilcullen Diary and I have retweeted it...so it must be true

buffalo · 09-06-2016 10:40am

There's no keeping secrets in the cycling scene... official announcement: http://www.cyclingireland.ie/cycling-news-item/kilcullen-confirmed-as-venue-for-national-road-championships/2064

The 2016 National Road Championships will take place in Kilcullen, Co. Kildare, from the 23-26 June. The process of securing a location for this year’s National Championships has been a long and arduous one, with two changes in race headquarters and routes happening due to circumstances outside the control of event organisers

Third time lucky! Entry still open via the CI portal at https://cyclingireland.azolve.com/portal/Events.aspx

nilhg · 09-06-2016 10:50am

Nice and handy for me

As near as I can figure out this is the senior race lap

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14304109

Masters races won't take in the Bewel Hill section, going straight up the R448.

Pudsy33 · 09-06-2016 11:40am

What's the course like profile wise?

JK.BMC · 09-06-2016 1:06pm

Pudsy33 wrote: »

What's the course like profile wise?

Think of 'wide rolling main roads' mixed with 'twisting narrow country lanes Flanders-style'
Brewel Hill will be a fantastic addition on the Sunday. I have the picnic and wine bottles ready

jimm · 09-06-2016 1:37pm

nilhg wrote: »

Nice and handy for me

As near as I can figure out this is the senior race lap

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14304109

Masters races won't take in the Bewel Hill section, going straight up the R448.

They're more likely to stay on the R448 at 28.8km instead of taking that left. (Purely based on previous IVCA races!!)

Pudsy33 · 09-06-2016 1:52pm

JK.BMC wrote: »

Think of 'wide rolling main roads' mixed with 'twisting narrow country lanes Flanders-style'
Brewel Hill will be a fantastic addition on the Sunday. I have the picnic and wine bottles ready

Very good, hopefully Roche still fancies it. It would be nice to see the champions jersey back at WT level.

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