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2016 National Champs

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    #122
    1bryan
    Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭1bryan


    Is the TT just gonna be on that long, boring road that connects the motorway to Athy?

    not even a turn or a bend on it.


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    #123
    jimm
    Registered Users Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    jimm wrote: »
    They're more likely to stay on the R448 at 28.8km instead of taking that left. (Purely based on previous IVCA races!!)

    According to the circuit details on the CI site, they do take that left. :o


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    #124
    nilhg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭nilhg


    jimm wrote: »
    According to the circuit details on the CI site, they do take that left. :o

    More of a hill on that road, goes up by the round tower, not a great surface last time I was on it which is probably why the Vets don't use it....


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    #125
    JK.BMC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    1bryan wrote: »
    Is the TT just gonna be on that long, boring road that connects the motorway to Athy?

    not even a turn or a bend on it.

    Yes. It is a very difficult 25 Miler, out-and-back with hardly a flat stretch on it; used as a championship route a few moons ago I believe.


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    #126
    morana
    Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    30km lap is very big. wont see them that often


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    #127
    TheBlaaMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Sam Bennett has been getting over hills pretty well recently......is this a route for him? (assuming it would fit with his schedule)


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    #128
    JK.BMC
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    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    Sam Bennett has been getting over hills pretty well recently......is this a route for him? (assuming it would fit with his schedule)

    Yes definitely.
    I'm pretty certain a world tour rider is going to win given the wearing down process involved. Lots of rolls and heavy roads. If Roche doesn't drop Bennett before the final hill well Sam can definitely do it


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    #129
    Homer1798
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Homer1798


    Circuit will wear down any bunch, climbs are narrow and long enough to cause problems, the main road is wide but rolling, descent from Narraghmore, Old Kilcullen are fast as is the descent from Bewel Hill and both are narrow, better course than the Lakes imo, more sporting and just as selective. Masters course is about as challenging as last years but with a good drag nearer the finish.


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    #130
    stecleary
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    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    Very good, hopefully Roche still fancies it. It would be nice to see the champions jersey back at WT level.

    He'd have to win it first ;)


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    #131
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Routes with profiles at http://www.orwellwheelers.org/national-champs-2016/routes


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    #132
    JK.BMC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    You gotta love that district out near Brewel called 'Ballyhurtin'
    Great name


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    #133
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Entries for the 2016 National TT Champs close tomorrow, so if you haven't gotten your entry in yet, apply via the CI portal now!

    Enter at https://cyclingireland.azolve.com/portal/EventsBooking.aspx?EventId=214256

    Route at http://www.orwellwheelers.org/national-champs-2016/routes


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    #134
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Shame with all the route changes we've ended up with a fairly tepid circuit, the one round Blessington lake would have been savage.


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    #135
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Why did Blessington fall through?


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    #136
    clog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭clog


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Why did Blessington fall through?

    According to the Wicklow Times there was a tractor rally.


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    #137
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Edit, I was incorrect.


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    #138
    JK.BMC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Shame with all the route changes we've ended up with a fairly tepid circuit, the one round Blessington lake would have been savage.

    Tepid???
    Glad you had a rethink.
    6 times up that narrow road to Brewel is far from Tepid. I expect the field to be in pieces after the first lap. And maybe 30-40 finishers


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    #139
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Tepid???
    Glad you had a rethink.
    6 times up that narrow road to Brewel is far from Tepid. I expect the field to be in pieces after the first lap. And maybe 30-40 finishers

    No I still think it's tepid, the Blessington route way much harder imo.


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    #140
    TGD
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    Anyone know for sure where the finish will be?


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    #141
    JK.BMC
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    TGD wrote: »
    Anyone know for sure where the finish will be?

    Im not sure but I believe the Saturday finish is outside the town somewhere and the Sunday is hopefully up the main street hill; I'm sure those who are working on it are putting the final touches to it at the moment.


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    #142
    buffalo
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    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Im not sure but I believe the Saturday finish is outside the town somewhere and the Sunday is hopefully up the main street hill; I'm sure those who are working on it are putting the final touches to it at the moment.

    Final decision on finish area is awaiting consultation with local Gardai and County Council on safe location. Should know Friday whether we can use the town or if it'll be on the circuit.


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    #143
    Homer1798
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Homer1798


    I was around the Elite circuit tonight and it's anything but tepid. It's a tougher circuit than last year and I don't think many complained about that being Tepid. There are plenty of drags and Brewel hill to break the bunch up and very little "flat" (as it's either up or down). I can't imagine the finish being on the Naas side of the town (where the Rás stage finished a few years ago) as it would require a massive operation to keep the run in safe for the 5 events, there is however a wide section of road on the Athy side about a kilo from the circuit that would have enough space around it for the race infrastructure. Masters circuit is ideal and harder in reality than it looks on strava/paper, same for the Elite circuit. Best of luck to the organisers.


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    #144
    Hager
    Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Hager


    Will the circuit have complete road closure or rolling closures?


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    #145
    Homer1798
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Homer1798


    A rolling road closure is normal for the Nationals.


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    #146
    1bryan
    Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭1bryan


    Homer1798 wrote: »
    A rolling road closure is normal for the Nationals.

    They had complete or partial road closures in Multyfarnham 2 years ago. The partial closures were on the N4 where they sectioned off enough of the road for the bike race, but traffic could still get by in both directions. The rest of the route was completely closed off.

    Theres good, wide roads on this circuit. I wouldn't be surprised if they did likewise.


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    #147
    nilhg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Rode the TT course as part of our club league on Thursday evening, nothing simple about it, hardest part is the last 10km, seems to me it'll be one where the real TT specialists will shine.

    Rode the senior RR route this morning, my personal opinion is that it'll work well and whoever wins will be a worthy champion, it'll be hectic enough on the first few laps I reckon, position going into the Bewel hill section will be important, the road is narrow for a big group, if you're not right upfront it'll be hard to react to any moves.

    I hope Orwell have a good supply of brushes though, the very heavy rain on Tuesday carried a lot of stone and gravel on to the Bewel hill section, one rider solo can pick his way down but in a group it'll be lethal as it stands


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    #148
    Derrydingle
    Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭Derrydingle


    Any news on if any of the big name pros are doing it this year


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    #149
    Derrydingle
    Registered Users Posts: 366 ✭✭Derrydingle


    Any news on if any of the big name pros are doing it this year


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    #150
    nilhg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭nilhg


    Derrydingle wrote: »
    Any news on if any of the big name pros are doing it this year

    http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/some-big-names-to-miss-mens-road-race-at-national-champs-2/


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    #151
    [Deleted User]
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    Might go watch this. Is there a route map available?


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