Monster Hunter Boardsie Caravan Ultimate Generations X G

Banjo · 20-07-2016 10:54am

every time he goes near his missus when there's Monster Hunting to be done he ends up throwing one into her to get her to leave, if he follows your method he's going to need to buy a Partridge Family bus by the time MH 6 rolls along.

UberPrinny_Baal · 21-07-2016 9:22am

Played a little more with the missus. We polished up all the HR1+2 Prowler only quests, and also jumped into the Prowler arena to fight the Great Maccao to see what the pre-loaded arena Prowlers are like.

I don't really have any strong opinions on any of it. Prowlers definitely have some cool unique things about them, but despite skimming one or two guides, I still don't really understand their skill system.

One thing I especially like is the "Plunderang", which is the default skill on gathering palicos.

It costs 4 bars of super, and makes the Prowler throw a single boomerang that seems to have little paws sticking out of it.

If it hits a monster (large or small) and returns to the Prowler, a red shiny spawns that anyone can loot. This red shiny will be called "{Monster Name} Item" and at the end of the quest is appraised into a random item from the "Carve" loot table.

So on a "Kill 15 Rhenoplos" quest, I plunderanged 4 of them over the course of it, at the end of the quest, those 4 Rhenoplos Items turned into 1 Rheno shell and 3 Raw Meats.

It's especially nice though if you're running multiple Plunderang Prowlers on a Gathering quest, and a large monster appears that you're not arsed to fight.

Every plunderang spawns a red shiny, and everyone can loot every shiny one time each, so while myself and herself were doing a gathering quest, an Arzuros showed up.

We both plunderanged it, both got two carves, and then went and ended the gathering quest.

Two carves each for no effort isn't two shabby, especially since KILLING a monster usually rewards three.

Overall though I'm not really sure I have an opinion on generations so far.

I think I agree with Shadowhearth that the pacing is a bit too slow for my liking. I'm nearly 20 hours in and I feel like I've done nothing important.

Banjo · 21-07-2016 9:34am

Kicked off last night. Jesus it is slow. I'm still on 1-star town quests, and it's just drudge, drudge,drudge. I mean, they all start this way but there isn't even any real sense of purpose or narrative. I know they're tutorial quests to get you used to resource gathering before you get stuck into the real hunting because I've done this before, but if I hadn't there's no guidance in-quest. Did they think 3 and 4 weren't quite alienating enough?

Also, why do I have to walk so far to get honey? Where's my convenient mushy, herb and honey pickups in the first area? God damn you Capcom!

So I went switch-axe, because I'm a creature of habit. Something isn't right. I keep breaking my attack chains by pressing A and it feels like that shouldn't be happening. It irked me. I was very irked. So I forged a Long Sword, and something's not right. I'm not getting my awesome samurai slashy-slashy-sheath. And I'm still just picking up mushrooms and bugs and herbs. And it's been ages and I have to go to bed soon.

God damn it, MH. You are a cold mistress.

Hurray! Palicoes! Wait, there's still no big monster and beating that quest didn't unlock an Urgent. And it's after bed time. Mother of Kazan!

I woke up this morning and noticed MH4 sitting on my locker. I'm sorely tempted to go back and give Shiggy-Mags another bash rather than push through this sludge...

Star Lord · 21-07-2016 10:37am

That's the thing, MH4 did have gather quests, but didn't feel like there were quite as many right at the start, so it had a bit of story drive to it too, giving a sense of urgency to get you going. MHG doesn't, at least so far...

ShadowHearth · 21-07-2016 1:10pm

I am on 4 stars now and finally picked up on big monster department. Still a good few crappy gathering quests, but not as bad. I gave up on all that crap and just going for stuff that is cool.
upgrade system of weapons is starting to get annoying, trees spread like crazy and I have already made 3 iron Lances qnd upgrading them. I don't want to check wiki as it ruined it for me in mh4. I was focus hunting for stuff amd not just discovering.

Played a bit more prowler to unlock honey. Done that, so will be back to it later.
One thing I kind of do like is new prowler hunting game. I thinks it's more fun and actually gives nice rewards. Q lot more micro management now with whole resting, training, hunting, but I like it.

So so far I am using a mix set of bulldrome and jaggy mix set with Hidden stinger. Rocking attack L skill.
Getting better at blocking, so might finally learn adept style.

By the way, is it better doing harvest tours in prowler? Large inventory. No need for tools? Or I am missing something.

UberPrinny_Baal · 21-07-2016 1:55pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I am on 4 stars now and finally picked up on big monster department. Still a good few crappy gathering quests, but not as bad. I gave up on all that crap and just going for stuff that is cool.
upgrade system of weapons is starting to get annoying, trees spread like crazy and I have already made 3 iron Lances qnd upgrading them. I don't want to check wiki as it ruined it for me in mh4. I was focus hunting for stuff amd not just discovering.

I've only just finished all the 1* quests and am mopping up the 2*, not even unlocked 3* so you're miles ahead of me.

The weapon upgrade system kind of annoys me too. My other half made herself some Gypercos dual blades, but doesn't remember which weapon she upgraded to get them.

I want to make them too, but I am in 100% the same boat as you, I both don't want to look stuff up on the wiki incase of spoilers, and don't want to waste my time upgrading the wrong weapon.

To be fair to this game though, I thought it was pretty stupid in 4U how Gravios weapons weren't forgable, only upgradable from Nerscylla weapons (which is not an intuitive path)

Not to mention Brachydios weapons were super random in how you obtained them, I know the SNS was upgraded from a Rathalos weapon, but I think every other one was upgraded from a different monster.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Played a bit more prowler to unlock honey. Done that, so will be back to it later.
One thing I kind of do like is new prowler hunting game. I thinks it's more fun and actually gives nice rewards. Q lot more micro management now with whole resting, training, hunting, but I like it.

Whatever gets me the best stats on things is all I care about. I like the new Meownster Hunter mini-game only due to the fact that it's fast to get over and done with. The old one could take a while, especially if you were like me, and just trying to snipe some good scraps from the Elder dragons

ShadowHearth wrote: »

So so far I am using a mix set of bulldrome and jaggy mix set with Hidden stinger. Rocking attack L skill.
Getting better at blocking, so might finally learn adept style.

Me too with the bulldrome Jaggi mix. I initially was wearing the Jaggi Helm, but it made me so sad to look the same AGAIN, that I changed to the Bulldrome Gunner Cap to get a sweet pair of monster horns on my head.

Now I look like a badass viking, so I don't care if my defense is lower.

Attack Up L and Gathering+1 is my set atm, which is hilariously similar to the set I was running on my 4U alt gunner for so long.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

By the way, is it better doing harvest tours in prowler? Large inventory. No need for tools? Or I am missing something.

I'm doing every quest except large monster hunts with prowler at the moment. No need for items, infinite bugnets/pickaxes/stamina as well as autotracker to avoid large monsters. And if I'm feeling cheeky I can sneak up on them and Plunderang a free carve too.

I just kitted my prowler out in full Centaur gear, because that weapon has the highest attack power out of what I have unlocked.

ShadowHearth · 22-07-2016 8:39am

Can you do egg delivery quests with prowler?

Anyway, played q good bit yesterday.

Was doing some random 2-4 star quests just to have them out of the way, but the more I do them, theore villagers throw quest at me. Its like never ending story....
At the same time I did more 4 big monster quests and finally got to 5star.

So few things: Fecking Garuga is on mhx too... That's one monster I never wanted to see. Its as nasty as always. Killed it and aerial lance did the trick.
Killed my first Mizutsune too. Love design of this one. Fun fight, but not very hard. Definitely not a fecking "oh my God, moggy! Stop twisting my nappies off!" job from mh4.

As always, getting tons of new sets yoked, but all useless compared to lovely mix set I am rocking. I do finally unlocking some rank 2 weapons. Sick of running with iron lance.

Banjo · 22-07-2016 10:02am

I'd also be interested in the prowler / egg quest thing. If I get a chance I'll give it a go. But wouldn't you drop the egg if you tried to run since he runs on all fours?

After 3 or 4 unsuccessful runs at the 1-star Immortal Bug quest, eating up Old Nets by the fist-ful and spending hours wandering around unsuccessfully looking for crafting materials before giving up and taking the Subquest finish, I finally copped on and ran it as Puss In Boots. Unlimited nets. HURRAH! That's good leché! And then I get 3 immortal bugs in 4 goes in the first area. God Damn You, Capcom!

At last, a monster hunt. The Great Maccao (sp?) was a bit of fun with default armour and weapon, given that he didn't have the default G *aggi moveset and I couldn't remember how to swing a long sword. Urge to hunt big game... rising...!

Tried the crazy Hypno-Owl in the Arena - she's very, very silly and it took me ages with the electric SnS on offer, but that's because I'm a pussy and keep avoiding the high-risk high-damage areas in favour of nice, safe, flank stabbing.

Realised I've done my usual thing of creating a female avatar which I'll be ashamed of and will probably never take online. But I'm not doing that 1* tier again any time soon so I'm stuck with it.

In conclusion, I'll never catch y'all up. But I'm having finally having fun lagging behind

UberPrinny_Baal · 22-07-2016 11:24am

Did some more quests last night.

I'm basically categorising in my head: every gathering and kill small monsters as a gathering quest; and I'm only using Prowlers for those quests. I'm tempted to also classify kill miniboss quests (anything ending in drome) the same, since it's pretty easy to curbstomp Great Maccaos or Arzuros when they try to ruffle your fur.

Using this classification, I have not done a "Real" monster fight quest since like... Monday. There is just such a ridiculous high volume of gathering quests to do, and cats are such superior gatherers I'm starting to forget what my hunter even looks like....

We also did some DLC quests, and praise be to Yama Tsukami, DLC QUESTS NOW GET TICKS BESIDE THEM AFTER YOU DO THEM!!!!111

I am not sure this has ever been a thing before. Thank christ it's finally in a game.

We did the 1* star Prowler only DLC quests, because we were not brave enough to jump straight up to 3* event Glavenus (Who the game lets you fight with no pre-requisites), because it seems pretty likely he'd wreck us.

We also discovered some additional balance behind the Prowler Plunderang, which is my new favourite thing ever. I assumed the reason why they spawn things called "Arzuros item" rather than "Arzuros shell" is that people couldn't run four prowlers and just chuck boomerangs until someone gets a plate/ruby/mantle. You still have to beat the quest to get the item appraised, and you have no guarantee it will turn into a good item.

I was partially right, but the other reason is so that they can set the maximum stack size of any "____ item" to 3. We discovered this while doing a "Gather 20 Moofah fur" quest and doing drive by shootings on a wandering Arzuros.

After we hit him with our fourth plunderang, we got the message "Arzuros item at maximum" so we had to leave him alone (i.e. Kill regularly) after that.

This doesn't prevent you from going around and plunderanging other monsters on the map, but the maximum you can do the same one and get rewards for it is three.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Can you do egg delivery quests with prowler?

Banjo wrote: »

I'd also be interested in the prowler / egg quest thing. If I get a chance I'll give it a go. But wouldn't you drop the egg if you tried to run since he runs on all fours?

Prowlers are like inspiration cartoon messages guys. They can be whatever you want them to be.

The only downside is that they don't seem to be able to run while carrying eggs, but for all we know Prowler egg carrying walk speed is on par with hunter with transporter skill run speed. It's hard to tell when the camera in this game is so damn zoomed in, and super-zoomed in when you're a cat.

From totally anecdotal experience, the Jaggis I encountered on my egg delivery quest were able to keep up with me pretty easily, but I never lost an egg to them attacking. I always moved away in time. So it feels kinda like pro-transporter human running speed to me. I might be wrong though.

Banjo wrote: »

After 3 or 4 unsuccessful runs at the 1-star Immortal Bug quest, eating up Old Nets by the fist-ful and spending hours wandering around unsuccessfully looking for crafting materials before giving up and taking the Subquest finish, I finally copped on and ran it as Puss In Boots. Unlimited nets. HURRAH! That's good leché! And then I get 3 immortal bugs in 4 goes in the first area. God Damn You, Capcom!

At last, a monster hunt. The Great Maccao (sp?) was a bit of fun with default armour and weapon, given that he didn't have the default G *aggi moveset and I couldn't remember how to swing a long sword. Urge to hunt big game... rising...!

Tried the crazy Hypno-Owl in the Arena - she's very, very silly and it took me ages with the electric SnS on offer, but that's because I'm a pussy and keep avoiding the high-risk high-damage areas in favour of nice, safe, flank stabbing.

Realised I've done my usual thing of creating a female avatar which I'll be ashamed of and will probably never take online. But I'm not doing that 1* tier again any time soon so I'm stuck with it.

In conclusion, I'll never catch y'all up. But I'm having finally having fun lagging behind

As well as having the infinite bugnets, I feel like Prowlers have passive Gathering+2 as well, since they seem to gather 5/6 times per nodes, and a regular hunter without gathering skills seems to only get 2/3.

I'm definitely enjoying the "No thought" required aspect of the prowlers. I just have an item set saved with nothing in it, and equip it before every quest.

I don't even eat because cats have infinite stamina, and I don't need extra health on top of the revival acorns they give you. I may as well save that cash for when I'm playing as a pathetic human.

Hypno-owls weapons and armour look class, I've only fought it once in multiplayer. I want that HH harp!

I haven't tried any hunter arenas yet Banjo, so respect for that. I only did some prowler ones to see what kinda loadouts they're given, and to give me cost-free previews of what all the skills do, so I can see which ones I like for my own cat.

ShadowHearth · 22-07-2016 2:00pm

I know I am on 5 star now. I am not rushing, but last two days I had days off and my gtx 680 decided to fry on me on Wensday morning. So played mhx instead. My gtx 1060 should be delivered, so my gaming time between wow and mhx will be balanced.

Enough time for the rest to catch up hehe.

UberPrinny_Baal · 26-07-2016 9:34am

How is everybody getting on?

I'm like 35 hours in, with 1 usage of every weapon, 20 of hunting horn and 40ish prowler.

I still feel like I've basically got nothing done nor achieved anything significant.

I'm mopping up all my 1* and 2* multiplayer and singleplayer quests. There is so many of them and more keep unlocking. Haven't unlocked nor played any 3*.

The only two new monsters I've fought is the Great Maccao and the Malfestio, and of those two, I only thought that Malfestio was a cool design with cool weapons, armour and stuff.

The new weapon system is a bit mystifying to me still. I really wanted to make the Malfestio HH: The Fools Harp (cool design and sleep element), but it needs Dragonite Ore to forge, which I don't seem to have access to, so I gave up.

Then I was upgrading the Vico Nullo(sp?) Bnahabra HH to Lv.5, when it suddenly gave me an option to branch off into the Fools Harp, which didn't require ANY dragonite ore? So I forged that and went about my business.

I've probably moaned about it already, but it's disappointing to see Capcom go all-in on bringing back the crappy "-drome" bosses from MH2. I've always thought of the "-drome" suffix as code for "We were too lazy to make a boss monster, so we made a small monster larger with more HP."

I thought the third gen Great Jaggi/Baggi/Wroggi were the right way to go about this mini-boss problem. They were cool and different from their minion monsters.

But Bulldrome being back? Man.....that's something I honestly never thought I'd see. I figured Capcom would be so embarrased he was ever a boss that'd they'd try and strike him from the Wiki or something.

But nope. There he is. And with so many quests to kill him.

ShadowHearth · 27-07-2016 9:04am

I had a lot of work lately and free time I had was used trying to fix pc or spend time with misses.
I gave up on moping up all the crap quests and gone on with just weapon upgrades amd 5 stars village quests.
Killed my first Lagiacrus in mhx. I was hunting them a lot in Mh3! They buffed up the fecker amd he is pretty fierce now! You cam make guard and stamina set with its parts, which is very nice for me as lancer. With aerial style lance stamina is my biggest issue atm.

As you baal, I am just annoyed with weapon upgrade system. Arthur point I just make several weapons of type that has upgrade branches. I had to make 3 petrified Lances amd upgrade all to levels I need to make 3 different weapons.
Looks like all weapons branching out from iron and petrified Lance. The rest are just gimmick ticket Lances.

ShadowHearth · 30-07-2016 11:36am

Really dead here, eh?

I played a bit more, but I don't have much time for it.
I finally switched from aerial style to adept. Starting to learn that shield counter attack.
The reason for change is because aerial style feels like cheesing. All you do is just jump around amd topple monsters. I will use it if I farm horns or tails. Its a lot easier to hit particular parts when monster down.

One thing I noticed with generations that animations and hit zones are weird. I get hit by monsters a lot more now randomly when in mh4 same monster moves wouldn't. Hard to explain.
Another one: little trash monsters are so ****ing aggressive in generations!!! To the point where it is just purely infuriating when you try fight large monsters.

UberPrinny_Baal · 02-08-2016 9:34am

Did the "Delivery 3 Premium Sashimi" fishing quest, which took the bones of 30 minutes. I was wondering if this is the one you were complaining about Shadowhearth? It was certainly very tedious.

I was talking to my nephew over the weekend and he said he's already beaten the solo low rank "story" with about 60 hours in the game.

I was amazed at this because I have about 45/50 hours and am still at 2*

The trick seems to be that he just exclusively did every new large monster quest as soon as they appeared, as those seem to be all the key quests; whereas I've just been doing EVERY quest and progressing through the game at the speed of Molassas.

My only achievement over the weekend is getting my gathering palico (who is the DLC cat Sunsnug) to Lv.15, which unlocked "Pilfer Boost". I equipped it and popped into a quest to find that now the 4 bar Plunderang only cost 3, and that my super-bar had increased to 6 in length.

So now I can keep 2 Plunderangs stocked until I encounter a monster worth steal from, grab two items in a row, and be on my way.

Started playing around with the Palico dojos as well and having the cats with abilities I like teach them to the other ones.

It all seems relatively straightforward so far.

My gametime definitely feels like a 5:1 ratio of playing as a cat rather than a human so far.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

One thing I noticed with generations that animations and hit zones are weird. I get hit by monsters a lot more now randomly when in mh4 same monster moves wouldn't. Hard to explain.
Another one: little trash monsters are so ****ing aggressive in generations!!! To the point where it is just purely infuriating when you try fight large monsters.

Not sure about the getting hit thing (tbf I haven't fought that many monsters while drowning in gathering quests), but yeah, the small monster aggression has definitely been dialed up to 11.

Jaggis and them don't come at you 1 at a time while you're mining like in a kung fu movie, they just dogpile and stunlock you in a way that makes it impossible to gather in peace.

Very annoying.

ShadowHearth · 05-08-2016 12:27pm

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

Did the "Delivery 3 Premium Sashimi" fishing quest, which took the bones of 30 minutes. I was wondering if this is the one you were complaining about Shadowhearth? It was certainly very tedious.

I was talking to my nephew over the weekend and he said he's already beaten the solo low rank "story" with about 60 hours in the game.

I was amazed at this because I have about 45/50 hours and am still at 2*

The trick seems to be that he just exclusively did every new large monster quest as soon as they appeared, as those seem to be all the key quests; whereas I've just been doing EVERY quest and progressing through the game at the speed of Molassas.

My only achievement over the weekend is getting my gathering palico (who is the DLC cat Sunsnug) to Lv.15, which unlocked "Pilfer Boost". I equipped it and popped into a quest to find that now the 4 bar Plunderang only cost 3, and that my super-bar had increased to 6 in length.

So now I can keep 2 Plunderangs stocked until I encounter a monster worth steal from, grab two items in a row, and be on my way.

Started playing around with the Palico dojos as well and having the cats with abilities I like teach them to the other ones.

It all seems relatively straightforward so far.

My gametime definitely feels like a 5:1 ratio of playing as a cat rather than a human so far.

Not sure about the getting hit thing (tbf I haven't fought that many monsters while drowning in gathering quests), but yeah, the small monster aggression has definitely been dialed up to 11.

Jaggis and them don't come at you 1 at a time while you're mining like in a kung fu movie, they just dogpile and stunlock you in a way that makes it impossible to gather in peace.

Very annoying.

Yup, that was the quest indeed. Though to my defence I did not knew i need to waggle circle pad too. I'll come back to it at some point... Maybe.

Amd yeah, small monsters are such a freaking pain in a hole. Specially when you fighting something big. At one stage I got nerd rage as iwas knocked over by big Monster and a swarm of little ****s. Its was pretty much stunlock that could do feck all about.

Getting hit things weird. I get knocked over a lot by animations of monsters that would not do that in MH4. The guard is all over the place sometimes. Usually in mh4 If monster went underground, I would just guard and wait for it to bounce of my lovely sturdy but cheeks. Now ots 50 50 of it bouncing or knocking my to moon.

Maybe it's just me and my high level Evade amd guard up setup in mh4.

Now I haven't played mhx in ages.

had few days off and misses was on holidays. So went to fota, visit my sister, nights out etc. Only had time for a bit wow.
I am off Monday to Wensday next week so hopefully I'll be able to play.

UberPrinny_Baal · 05-08-2016 12:53pm

New DLC dropped today.

I took the Nekomushi (sp?) DLC cat from this and started training it.

Probably nothing amazing for all the people who traded online to get perfect palicos, but a gathering cat with plunderang and piercing boomerangs/big boomerangs is pretty appealing to me.

While slogging through the awful number of gathering/small monster/mini-boss kill quests, I've generally been running either Sunsnug the DLC Gathering Cat (Plunderang, Pilfer Boost, Support Boost) for maximum gathering while plunderanging everything around me as soon as it was stocked. Then for easy monster kill quests I've been using an attack cat I trained up with Piercing/Big boomerangs and a ranged weapon, but it's always bothered me how his primary skill (Furr-ious) seems crap comparitively for a 5 bar cost.

Having a cat with both plunderang and piercing/big boomerangs makes me feel like I can retire my other two cats and just train this one exclusively for use in all the boring missions, and I won't be woefully underprepared if I'm on a gathering mission and a difficult-to-kill monster shows up.

In file progress news I got to fight two of the fated four in quests that did not make any mention of them. They appeared as wandering monsters on otherwise simple seeming quests. So spoiler tags to follow.

I fought and ultimately gave up on a

Gammoth

on a quest to

get Popo Tongues

and fought and capped

Mizutsune

on a quest to kill

Bulldrome

.

In my defense, I had only brought my gathering cat to the former quest, and was simply not rocking enough damage to take out a proper boss monster, so I contented myself to getting my three plunderang steals and going on my way. Really though, I should have seen a random boss monster coming, as the

"Get Popo Tongues at the snowy mountains"

is a pretty famous second generation quest for dropping unexpected large monster fights on you. In Freedom Unite, that's the first time you can fight Tigrex. So they just mixed that up little bit.

I didn't even realise until I was talking to the quest NPC afterwards and they said something like "Did you get attacked by a large monster? Tigrex right? He loves those

Popo Tongues.

Oh it was something else? weird."

The

Mizutsune

was bloody tough. I thought I came over-prepared with a crapload of itmes and my Malfestio sleep hunting horn. I even put it to sleep and exploded LBB+s on it's face. Regardless of all this I still died twice and nearly failed the quest. Once it was safely in a trap I polished off the

Bulldrome

in a funny exchange where it went off to sleep, so I smashed its face, which made it go from being asleep to awake to immediately asleep again. Then I recitaled my notes into a song which made it go from asleep to dizzy, and then I encored the recital which made it go from dizzy to dead.

Myself and the other half have unlocked our HR3 urgent to fight

Astalos

, so I'm looking forward to doing that later this evening.

I'm really eager to unlock whatever areas give Armour Sphere+s, because we tried a few of those Deviant monsters, and our defenses are sorely, almost pathetically lacking.

When bloody Arzuros and Lagombi can one-shot you, you know something must be wrong.

ShadowHearth · 06-08-2016 9:19am

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

New DLC dropped today.

I took the Nekomushi (sp?) DLC cat from this and started training it.

Probably nothing amazing for all the people who traded online to get perfect palicos, but a gathering cat with plunderang and piercing boomerangs/big boomerangs is pretty appealing to me.

While slogging through the awful number of gathering/small monster/mini-boss kill quests, I've generally been running either Sunsnug the DLC Gathering Cat (Plunderang, Pilfer Boost, Support Boost) for maximum gathering while plunderanging everything around me as soon as it was stocked. Then for easy monster kill quests I've been using an attack cat I trained up with Piercing/Big boomerangs and a ranged weapon, but it's always bothered me how his primary skill (Furr-ious) seems crap comparitively for a 5 bar cost.

Having a cat with both plunderang and piercing/big boomerangs makes me feel like I can retire my other two cats and just train this one exclusively for use in all the boring missions, and I won't be woefully underprepared if I'm on a gathering mission and a difficult-to-kill monster shows up.

In file progress news I got to fight two of the fated four in quests that did not make any mention of them. They appeared as wandering monsters on otherwise simple seeming quests. So spoiler tags to follow.

I fought and ultimately gave up on a
Gammoth
on a quest to
get Popo Tongues
and fought and capped
Mizutsune
on a quest to kill
Bulldrome
.

In my defense, I had only brought my gathering cat to the former quest, and was simply not rocking enough damage to take out a proper boss monster, so I contented myself to getting my three plunderang steals and going on my way. Really though, I should have seen a random boss monster coming, as the
"Get Popo Tongues at the snowy mountains"
is a pretty famous second generation quest for dropping unexpected large monster fights on you. In Freedom Unite, that's the first time you can fight Tigrex. So they just mixed that up little bit.

I didn't even realise until I was talking to the quest NPC afterwards and they said something like "Did you get attacked by a large monster? Tigrex right? He loves those
Popo Tongues.
Oh it was something else? weird."

The
Mizutsune
was bloody tough. I thought I came over-prepared with a crapload of itmes and my Malfestio sleep hunting horn. I even put it to sleep and exploded LBB+s on it's face. Regardless of all this I still died twice and nearly failed the quest. Once it was safely in a trap I polished off the
Bulldrome
in a funny exchange where it went off to sleep, so I smashed its face, which made it go from being asleep to awake to immediately asleep again. Then I recitaled my notes into a song which made it go from asleep to dizzy, and then I encored the recital which made it go from dizzy to dead.

Myself and the other half have unlocked our HR3 urgent to fight
Astalos
, so I'm looking forward to doing that later this evening.

I'm really eager to unlock whatever areas give Armour Sphere+s, because we tried a few of those Deviant monsters, and our defenses are sorely, almost pathetically lacking.

When bloody Arzuros and Lagombi can one-shot you, you know something must be wrong.

This is kind of on going joke of mhx. I met like that 2 of the main quests. And as I said before, I got proper quest for one of them and downed it too.

On the gathering hall quests: reports go that it is not balanced more towards 4 people and not 2. So looks like they dialed up challenge now. A lot of people were reporting timing out in demo, when soloing gathering hall versions.

Now I finally played a bit last night! Woot!
I came to realisation that I don't enjoy aerial lance at all. Its very easy, but it's not satisfying and is not very good at actually becoming skillfull in game. I tried adept again amd it's more fun, but I always Evade landed, not guard. So throwing counters is really hard for me.
I decided to make cheap great sword and just try it. Well after trying adept style I really loving it. In the end I made rathalos great sword and full rathalos set. Attack M and Tenderizor with q good bit of defence. Did one more fight as aerial, but did not liked it much. When I am back in a swing with mhx I am going adept Greatsword. Woot!

Banjo · 08-08-2016 1:15pm

Man, there are so many gathering quests and critter quests. I just can't face firing this game up any more, especially as time is pretty tight at the moment, and Hyrule Warriors Legends offers such cheap and accessible visceral thrills...

ShadowHearth · 08-08-2016 5:48pm

Honestly, I don't know wtf they were thinking.

They wanted to attract more people to franchise and they doing it so wrong. Few baby sitting quests is grand to get your feet on, but have almost hundreds of them is retarded. Amy new player will think it's gathering simulator not monster hunter. Its only at 5star village quests when you actually get to monster hunting properly.

I worked 6 long days and finally last night after work, when misses passed out I managed to play. Went ghetto on rank 5 quests. Did a good few and had a lot of fun. I swapped to aerial GS and really loving it. A lot more control and fun then Lance aerial as you do have to have your charges. Almost did all of them, but still did not got on to key quest lol.

Banjo · 09-08-2016 9:55am

Given some of your previous posts about how you make time for monster hunting, I'm very worried about what caused your mrs to pass out. But well done you

I'm going full prowler, I'm clearing some of this gathering bull****. 2 a night for as long as I can stand it, no side quests, no non-essential gathering. Maybe that was the intention? Push you to use prowler? But it's a bit cack-handed and if I hadn't played 3 or 4 I'd definitely have shelved this or traded it in by now.

UberPrinny_Baal · 10-08-2016 10:37am

Myself and herself beat our

Astalos

urgent, once each, and it had been so long since we'd fought a damn monster I thought it was going to be seriously difficult, but it was a complete piss of piss.

We killed the first and capped the second. My other half is in love with the look of the armour/weapons/palico gear so we're probably going to kill a bunch of those to farm all the parts.

Once you're HR3, and I don't know if this counts as a spoiler, or moreso as giving hope to my fellow hunters, but the game pacing does a goddamn handbreak turn out of boring quest land, and accellerates into Flagship Monster country.

All the Fated Four from generations are immediately available, as are Gore/Shagura Magala and Seregios from 4th Gen, Lagiacrus, Bracydios and Zinogre from 3rd Gen, All the resonably sized 2nd Gen elder dragons and then Rathalos and Tigrex sprinkled on top.

No key quests, no unlocking, just slog through the snoozefests of HR1 and HR2, and then BOOM, all of the big monster content from every game ever all at once.

I know I should be happy, but my play experience so far has been so negative I just feel like this is the game showcasing how poor it is at pacing.

We decided to fight and kill all the fated four, and those fights were fine. Difficulty wise I'd order them:

Gammoth > Astalos > Misutsune > Glavenus

With the jump between Astalos and Misutune being pretty large, as that water/fox/dragon hits like a goddamn truck when it's angry.

Glavenus was a pretty cool fight, and we didn't find it difficult, so it bolsted our confidence to try the day 1 3* DLC USJ quest to fight the Glavenus.

That did NOT go well, as this one has clearly gotten a power boost.

His coiled tailspring attack is a guaranteed one-hit-kill, and even if I BLOCK it (I was running Guild Lance), I loose more than half my health in block damage.

That's pretty nuts, so we failed the quest, but I reckon we could beat it if we try again, but just play a bit more carefully.

In my single-player I have a red tick on 1*, a blue tick on 2*, I'm still polishing off the 3*.

Nothing of any interest is happening there, so I'm mostly just playing cat.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

This is kind of on going joke of mhx. I met like that 2 of the main quests. And as I said before, I got proper quest for one of them and downed it too.

On the gathering hall quests: reports go that it is not balanced more towards 4 people and not 2. So looks like they dialed up challenge now. A lot of people were reporting timing out in demo, when soloing gathering hall versions.

Now I finally played a bit last night! Woot!
I came to realisation that I don't enjoy aerial lance at all. Its very easy, but it's not satisfying and is not very good at actually becoming skillfull in game. I tried adept again amd it's more fun, but I always Evade landed, not guard. So throwing counters is really hard for me.
I decided to make cheap great sword and just try it. Well after trying adept style I really loving it. In the end I made rathalos great sword and full rathalos set. Attack M and Tenderizor with q good bit of defence. Did one more fight as aerial, but did not liked it much. When I am back in a swing with mhx I am going adept Greatsword. Woot!

I played some Adept Lance, and as a "Guard Lancer 4 lyfe" it didn't take me very long to realise that I didn't have the overwhelmingly generous adept evade windows that I did on other adept weapons, and that my blocking animation looked a little weird. Turns out it's an odd little counter if you block right before an attack hits. I'm not sure what the advantages of it over a regular counter are (since Adept style removes regular counter) because it is definitely a much narrower window than the regular counter is.

I ended up pretty quickly going back to Guild style to get my normal counter back and choose the two Lanciest hunter arts I had available to see what they look like.

Shield Assault is some mad thing that turns me into a runaway train that tries to go "Chuga-shieldbash-shieldbash-shieldbash-shieldbash-WOO-WOO-STAB". I found it basically impossible to hit anything with the full animation unless I wedged myself into the ballsack of a toppled monster, or unless I purposefull ran into some sort of enviroment obstacle (like a lava pool) which kept my character functionally stationary as they went through the process of destructive locomotion.

Corkscrew stab is a super basic single hit that takes twelve years to charge, so I've no problems implementing that during the blue moon when I have it available.

The triple-hit on the third Lance poke will definitely take some adjustment. Makes Lance feel a bit more Gunlancy in the sense that a few pokes is fine, but a full combo is some serious positional commitment.

Banjo wrote: »

Man, there are so many gathering quests and critter quests. I just can't face firing this game up any more, especially as time is pretty tight at the moment, and Hyrule Warriors Legends offers such cheap and accessible visceral thrills...

How is Hyrule Warriors Legends on 3DS? I really want to pick it up to relive the joy of all the hack and slash button mashing I did on Dynasty Warriors 2 on PS2 and Samurai Warrior Chronicles at the 3DS launch.

But yeah, the goddamn gathering quests are wearing us out. We're never playing MHX only, we're always watching a film or a box set as we beat the damn quests, because it would be too boring otherwise.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Honestly, I don't know wtf they were thinking.

They wanted to attract more people to franchise and they doing it so wrong. Few baby sitting quests is grand to get your feet on, but have almost hundreds of them is retarded. Amy new player will think it's gathering simulator not monster hunter. Its only at 5star village quests when you actually get to monster hunting properly.

It's awful. I'm full on telling people who want to get into MH because of all the generations hype to not buy this game.

If you want a more gentle, interesting and well paced introduction to the series you want to be playing 4U. Absolutely not this.

A friend of mine is trying this as his first monster hunter, and his biggest complaint is that he doesn't understand the weapons or the buttons, and when he tries to do these gathering quests, he gets beaten to death and killed by tiny monsters.

All I can say to him is "It didn't used to be like this..."

Banjo wrote: »

Given some of your previous posts about how you make time for monster hunting, I'm very worried about what caused your mrs to pass out. But well done you

I'm going full prowler, I'm clearing some of this gathering bull****. 2 a night for as long as I can stand it, no side quests, no non-essential gathering. Maybe that was the intention? Push you to use prowler? But it's a bit cack-handed and if I hadn't played 3 or 4 I'd definitely have shelved this or traded it in by now.

Yeah, same for me. I have over 100 prowler uses, 30ish HH and 2 of every other weapon.

I actually kinda like prowler, and I've used enough different ones that I've found the level cap (at least for my point in the game) seems to be 20. At 20 their level changes to orange text and I can't seem to level them up past there.

I'm mostly running gathering cats as well, so I can get my three sneaky monster carves on gathering quests without messing around with any combat.

ShadowHearth · 11-08-2016 11:23am

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

Myself and herself beat our
Astalos
urgent, once each, and it had been so long since we'd fought a damn monster I thought it was going to be seriously difficult, but it was a complete piss of piss.

We killed the first and capped the second. My other half is in love with the look of the armour/weapons/palico gear so we're probably going to kill a bunch of those to farm all the parts.

Once you're HR3, and I don't know if this counts as a spoiler, or moreso as giving hope to my fellow hunters, but the game pacing does a goddamn handbreak turn out of boring quest land, and accellerates into Flagship Monster country.

All the Fated Four from generations are immediately available, as are Gore/Shagura Magala and Seregios from 4th Gen, Lagiacrus, Bracydios and Zinogre from 3rd Gen, All the resonably sized 2nd Gen elder dragons and then Rathalos and Tigrex sprinkled on top.

No key quests, no unlocking, just slog through the snoozefests of HR1 and HR2, and then BOOM, all of the big monster content from every game ever all at once.

I know I should be happy, but my play experience so far has been so negative I just feel like this is the game showcasing how poor it is at pacing.

We decided to fight and kill all the fated four, and those fights were fine. Difficulty wise I'd order them:

Gammoth > Astalos > Misutsune > Glavenus

With the jump between Astalos and Misutune being pretty large, as that water/fox/dragon hits like a goddamn truck when it's angry.

Glavenus was a pretty cool fight, and we didn't find it difficult, so it bolsted our confidence to try the day 1 3* DLC USJ quest to fight the Glavenus.

That did NOT go well, as this one has clearly gotten a power boost.

His coiled tailspring attack is a guaranteed one-hit-kill, and even if I BLOCK it (I was running Guild Lance), I loose more than half my health in block damage.

That's pretty nuts, so we failed the quest, but I reckon we could beat it if we try again, but just play a bit more carefully.

In my single-player I have a red tick on 1*, a blue tick on 2*, I'm still polishing off the 3*.

Nothing of any interest is happening there, so I'm mostly just playing cat.

I played some Adept Lance, and as a "Guard Lancer 4 lyfe" it didn't take me very long to realise that I didn't have the overwhelmingly generous adept evade windows that I did on other adept weapons, and that my blocking animation looked a little weird. Turns out it's an odd little counter if you block right before an attack hits. I'm not sure what the advantages of it over a regular counter are (since Adept style removes regular counter) because it is definitely a much narrower window than the regular counter is.

I ended up pretty quickly going back to Guild style to get my normal counter back and choose the two Lanciest hunter arts I had available to see what they look like.

Shield Assault is some mad thing that turns me into a runaway train that tries to go "Chuga-shieldbash-shieldbash-shieldbash-shieldbash-WOO-WOO-STAB". I found it basically impossible to hit anything with the full animation unless I wedged myself into the ballsack of a toppled monster, or unless I purposefull ran into some sort of enviroment obstacle (like a lava pool) which kept my character functionally stationary as they went through the process of destructive locomotion.

Corkscrew stab is a super basic single hit that takes twelve years to charge, so I've no problems implementing that during the blue moon when I have it available.

The triple-hit on the third Lance poke will definitely take some adjustment. Makes Lance feel a bit more Gunlancy in the sense that a few pokes is fine, but a full combo is some serious positional commitment.

How is Hyrule Warriors Legends on 3DS? I really want to pick it up to relive the joy of all the hack and slash button mashing I did on Dynasty Warriors 2 on PS2 and Samurai Warrior Chronicles at the 3DS launch.

But yeah, the goddamn gathering quests are wearing us out. We're never playing MHX only, we're always watching a film or a box set as we beat the damn quests, because it would be too boring otherwise.

It's awful. I'm full on telling people who want to get into MH because of all the generations hype to not buy this game.

If you want a more gentle, interesting and well paced introduction to the series you want to be playing 4U. Absolutely not this.

A friend of mine is trying this as his first monster hunter, and his biggest complaint is that he doesn't understand the weapons or the buttons, and when he tries to do these gathering quests, he gets beaten to death and killed by tiny monsters.

All I can say to him is "It didn't used to be like this..."

Yeah, same for me. I have over 100 prowler uses, 30ish HH and 2 of every other weapon.

I actually kinda like prowler, and I've used enough different ones that I've found the level cap (at least for my point in the game) seems to be 20. At 20 their level changes to orange text and I can't seem to level them up past there.

I'm mostly running gathering cats as well, so I can get my three sneaky monster carves on gathering quests without messing around with any combat.

I actually couldn't agree more. For any new comer to franchise I would recommend mh4. Its just so solid amd tight. No bull**** amd straight forward.
New one is just killing me with gathering quests. And now I remember myself batching back in the day about those qs in mh4... How little I know on how good I had.

Yeah, palicios looks like caped at 20. I got two of them at 20 and now I switch one to low level to level it up too.

So for generations kind of really looks like a step back then forward. I don't know if I like arts and how they made them work. It used to be all about combos, situational use and mastery. Now its fill up bar thing and press on the screen. A lot of arts are kind of useless too, i rarely use them.

ShadowHearth · 13-08-2016 2:49pm

Looks like a lot of our hunters are out of generations here? Big difference from mh4 time.

I finally was able to play some last night. I found out that just doing key quests is not enough anymore to progress. To my surprise I finished all 5 star qs and still no urgent... Oh, so you can't just ignore shovelware quests, you need to get enough points and unlock those sneaky: collect X flowers, while you get your tits twisted off by one of the title monsters to unlock it's fight in 5 stars.
Anyway, I met Gammoth like that. Just said **** your Popo Tongues I am going after that boy. Well, I killed him, it took very very long time and o have to admit, he is a boring monster. Mizutsune was way more fun and interesting fight. Looks like Gammoth designed to be a damn hp sponge, which gets very annoying when he already changed area 4 times.
Anyway, I unlocked his q in 5 stars and I will need to kill him properly for quest, not assize quest. Can't wait... The set you make out of his parts is just bad... Looks wise and skills.
I got lucky and got +4 attack charm. So now I am rocking full rathalos set combined with rathalos GS with +attack L and Tenderizor. Looks like I'll be with this set for very long time.

monsterhunter · 14-08-2016 8:35pm

Hi. Long time Monster Hunter fan/player. Loving Generations since day one. Yes...agreed lots of gathering quests etc. but I skipped most of them!
Here's where I'm at so far...
114 hours - Village and online play (key quests and more)
HR 38
Armour sets: Full HR Astral / Talisman with evasion +6. With decorations: Evasion +1, Trump Card and Composed. Defense 565
Full HR Rathalos / Talisman with biology +2. With decorations: Attack Up (L), Weakness Exploit and Herbology. Defense 441
Main weapon: Khanga Brink (Fully upgraded/Khanga Edge's final form Seregios LS) with 190 attack using Astral set and 225 using Rathalos set.
Have the Rainbow Pigment on my armour for seeing the village credits and have most of 6* village done. Also beat the 'main' online boss.
Hunter Style: Aerial
Hunter Arts: Alternate between Fortress Walls (body hard as diamond) and Unhinged Spirit III (keeps Spirit Gauge at max in tier II).
And now... back to hunting monsters and having fun!!!

jaxxx · 18-08-2016 11:15pm

Anyone else think high rank is too easy? Not talking about deviants or hypers, they're decently difficult. Try going back to Tri if you will. If you brought a low level armour set against something along the likes of Rathalos, you'd be annihilated in one hit. I'm seeing people with shockingly bad armour sets and they're not even struggling against heavy hitting monsters. And I'm talking about very low defense (have seen def of less than 100 against the likes of HR Glavenus) and 0 active armour skills.

UberPrinny_Baal · 07-09-2016 1:02pm

I thought I'd spin you guys a tale because I've been so quiet recently.

I was at Celtic Throwdown at the weekend, which is a big fighting game event where I entered into a load of tournaments for the craic, but there was also a Monster Hunter area with a speedrunning competition, for which the winner would get an awesome Enraged Rajang statue.

The monster decided upon was the MH4U HR Emerald Congalala Village quest with the following criteria:

No relic weapons

No palicos

No eating for Felyne Weakener

There was a dude there who was very confident in his set since he said GS is the best speedrun weapon. It was a great endgame crit draw GS set with attack honed cera cymmetry.

He posted a time of I think 3'16'00 and was saying how good he felt about his time since he spawned in the same area as the Congalala and thought the whole thing went pretty well overall.

I was not feeling terribly optimistic at that point because even though I got to G Special in 4U, I never did the very-end-game stuff like GQs or weapon honing, so I felt like my attack power would be seriously lacking.

So I just knuckled down with the intention of doing a load of runs on my 3DS while waiting in pools for my Street Fighter 2/3/4 and Smash 2/4 games. What I might lack in gear, I figured I could probably make up in tenacity.

Anyway I loaded up my main 4U character (Who between my 4U gun only alt and my Gen character, had not been played in a long time). She was wearing Star Knight gemmed for Status Attack+2 with the Chameleos Dual Blades (not honed). That's just what I had left her equipped with the last time I used her.

"Ah that'll do for a base run" I said to myself "I'll just see how this goes and then modify my gear based on what I think will work the best"

I ate for attack up and felyne specialist in the kitchen, departed, spawned 2 areas away from the Congalala, ran to fight him in area 8, popped a might seed when I saw him, and then just laid into him with the Dual Blades.

At a certain point I felt like he was probably cappable, put away my blades, hit him with two tranqs, and then dropped a trap as he ran at me.

"Mission Complete"

I passed my 3DS off to the event organiser so he could check my setup was legal.

He scrolled through my gear, clicked through to the final posted time on the quest complete screen.

2'26'26.

"Holy crap" he said "You beat the best time by nearly a minute"

"Well that's cool" I said "But I think I could probably do it faster"

But I couldn't.

I made several other attempts during the day when I had a few minutes free time (which wasn't often, because I was potmonstering the hell out of all the tournaments). I tried an awakened sleep greatsword set, but only got 2'28'00. My gunner runs went horribly badly because the area Congalala spawns in is Konchu central and they do NOT leave you alone.

I planned on doing more attempts, but before I knew it the time to submit attempts had passed.

Thankfully though, although there was a fairly healthy room of people trying to beat my initial run, nobody had managed to do it before the cut off point.

So I am now the proud owner of an angry ape statue, for being the bestest at killing a smelly ape.

Credit to the lad Luke who runs the MH Ireland facebook page and also to Capcom who provided him a good amount of prizes on the day.

He was also giving away wall scrolls, posters and blind boxes. I got a Gravios in mine and my partner got a Kirin in hers. I set up the figures at home so it looks like Rajang statue was hungrily looking at the little Kirin model.

I put the wall scroll over one of my glass doors that seperates out the sitting and dining rooms. Looks great. I can post pictures if you're curious.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I actually couldn't agree more. For any new comer to franchise I would recommend mh4. Its just so solid amd tight. No bull**** amd straight forward.
New one is just killing me with gathering quests. And now I remember myself batching back in the day about those qs in mh4... How little I know on how good I had.

Yeah, palicios looks like caped at 20. I got two of them at 20 and now I switch one to low level to level it up too.

So for generations kind of really looks like a step back then forward. I don't know if I like arts and how they made them work. It used to be all about combos, situational use and mastery. Now its fill up bar thing and press on the screen. A lot of arts are kind of useless too, i rarely use them.

From my readings, the metagame surrounding playable prowlers seems to have settled on "Assist or Attack prowler, spamming boomerangs buffed with Big and Pierce Boomerang skills".

This is pretty easy but it isn't very interesting. A dude on reddit recently posted up an alternative to the ranged boomerang spam style that is a Guard or Bomb prowler, basically focusing only on melee attacks and building metre for Giga Bombay, a giant Palico bomb that scales in attack power with the attack power of your prowler. Which sounds like a ton of fun.

Link here, but fair warning, it's very long.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/518kmo/mhgenguide_exploding_kittens_building_an/

I haven't tried it yet, but I'm gonna start scouting for a Protection cat for the necessary skills.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Looks like a lot of our hunters are out of generations here? Big difference from mh4 time.

I finally was able to play some last night. I found out that just doing key quests is not enough anymore to progress. To my surprise I finished all 5 star qs and still no urgent... Oh, so you can't just ignore shovelware quests, you need to get enough points and unlock those sneaky: collect X flowers, while you get your tits twisted off by one of the title monsters to unlock it's fight in 5 stars.
Anyway, I met Gammoth like that. Just said **** your Popo Tongues I am going after that boy. Well, I killed him, it took very very long time and o have to admit, he is a boring monster. Mizutsune was way more fun and interesting fight. Looks like Gammoth designed to be a damn hp sponge, which gets very annoying when he already changed area 4 times.
Anyway, I unlocked his q in 5 stars and I will need to kill him properly for quest, not assize quest. Can't wait... The set you make out of his parts is just bad... Looks wise and skills.
I got lucky and got +4 attack charm. So now I am rocking full rathalos set combined with rathalos GS with +attack L and Tenderizor. Looks like I'll be with this set for very long time.

That's a nice set. I was looking to make one weapon for each of the fated four, because they're like the starter pokemon, each one is effective on the next, hilariously in the difficulty order I listed them. I only have Gammoth hammer and Glavenus dual blades so far, looking to make Mitzu SnS and a random Astalos thing (haven't decided yet).

I haven't yet found a gearset I like for combat a lot, but I did find a nice one to Streetpass people while wearing, because looking cool is important :P

monsterhunter wrote: »

Hi. Long time Monster Hunter fan/player. Loving Generations since day one. Yes...agreed lots of gathering quests etc. but I skipped most of them!
Here's where I'm at so far...
114 hours - Village and online play (key quests and more)
HR 38
Armour sets: Full HR Astral / Talisman with evasion +6. With decorations: Evasion +1, Trump Card and Composed. Defense 565
Full HR Rathalos / Talisman with biology +2. With decorations: Attack Up (L), Weakness Exploit and Herbology. Defense 441
Main weapon: Khanga Brink (Fully upgraded/Khanga Edge's final form Seregios LS) with 190 attack using Astral set and 225 using Rathalos set.
Have the Rainbow Pigment on my armour for seeing the village credits and have most of 6* village done. Also beat the 'main' online boss.
Hunter Style: Aerial
Hunter Arts: Alternate between Fortress Walls (body hard as diamond) and Unhinged Spirit III (keeps Spirit Gauge at max in tier II).
And now... back to hunting monsters and having fun!!!

Grats on your set, I don't think I know any pure Longsword mains.

Skipping the quests is obviously the best path to take in generations.

It still bothers me though that the optimum way to experience the game content is to NOT experience the game content.

jaxxx wrote: »

Anyone else think high rank is too easy? Not talking about deviants or hypers, they're decently difficult. Try going back to Tri if you will. If you brought a low level armour set against something along the likes of Rathalos, you'd be annihilated in one hit. I'm seeing people with shockingly bad armour sets and they're not even struggling against heavy hitting monsters. And I'm talking about very low defense (have seen def of less than 100 against the likes of HR Glavenus) and 0 active armour skills.

I'm seeing this opinion represented a lot online that "Generations is easier than 4U" and a lot of the time it is specifically related to damage.

I think this is a really really bad metric of difficulty and game design competence in general.

One of my issues with 4U is that it's difficult curve was really lazy: Crazy high damage between HR ranks, and Apex monsters being functionally immune to most damage.

You really wanted to be wearing rare 10 armour and nothing else to not get one-hit-killed, and I think that's really boring.

You mention Tri as an example of "being annihilated in one hit" but Tri had overforging, where you could upgrade low rank armour to high rank equivilent defense. And I thought this was awesome, because probably my most used set were all LR overforged: Qurupeco, Guild, Lagiacrus and Agnaktor.

You could play through the whole game in low rank armour if you liked the skills, and I did. I two-manned my HR50 Alatreon urgent in LR Guild Bard, and I wasn't getting one-shot.

LR Peco armour in particular was incredibly survivable (Defense up, Evasion and High Fire Res). You could definitely bring that against HR Rathalos and be in no danger of being one-shot.

I'm not High Rank in Generations yet, so I can't comment on the difficulty in an informed capacity, but my expectation is that hopefully the damage is a bit more normalised, compared to how stupidly high it was in 4U; and this is why the internet thinks it's easy.

ShadowHearth · 15-09-2016 10:19pm

So hey guys. Long time no hunt.

Well I was pretty busy and Wow expansion came out, I though it will be like last two... I couldn't not even level to cap and unsub half way the month after launch. This time around expansion is so good, I haven't played anything else at my free time. Monday my 34inch 3440x1440 monitor is coming, my wow will ne at level 11.

Now why I am here? Well, I played generations again. I have to admit, I got really put off the way generations is structured, so I kind off drifted away from it after 40h in.
Went to Dublin with misses to see Bill Bailey amd took my 3ds for hangover morning in hotel and train trips. Looks like I was not far away from the single player credit screen. Well, first one anyway. Had to do few more crapy quests and unlocked the rest of great evil 4.
Glavious and Astalos were pretty fun. Glavious was a highlight. Fun and cool design. Worst thing is it felt like cheesing with aerial GS, so I didn't experienced the fight properly.
Got 6star qs unlocked and looks like it's going to be a lot more fun. Some serious monsters started to show up and no more fetch shovelware stuff. I might play a bit more mhx when I am not on heroine called wow.

monsterhunter · 16-09-2016 9:57am

Well done Uber - Great story and fantastic win!
Shadow - You're right re: 6* quests. It's a bit of a shame the real buzz of the game doesn't kick in until then... Enjoy doing 'The Fated Four' quest. I did it first go but have a feeling I was OP with my HR gear and weapon!
Must get back to this game as the latest Fire Emblem has been keeping me busy for the last few weeks.........

Linoud · 19-09-2016 11:18pm

Still need to pick up generations, but just finishing up some other games first, like FE: Fates, etc.

UberPrinny_Baal · 28-10-2016 10:58am

What is functionally Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate has been announced for Japanese release March 2017.

If you were on the fence about Generations, I would absolutely stay on that fence until we find out if Generations Ultimate (or Double Cross "XX" as it's called in Japan), is getting a Western release.

If it is, and you can wait, there is literally no reason to get Generations, as the Ultimate game will have all the current content, further refined, plus a whole bunch more.

UberPrinny_Baal · 28-10-2016 12:11pm

It just occured to me that people might not be familiar with how this works, because we've never gotten two subsequent games of the same generational numbering AND on the same system since Monster Hunter Portable 2nd and Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on PSP.

Assuming this is being released here (because it probably will be), if you own both games, when you put Generations Ultimate in your 3DS, it will ask you if you want to import your vanilla Generations character.

When you say yes, all your stuff: your character, items, weapons, palicos and completed quests carry over to the new game.

At that point you can choose to immediately start on the new G rank content, rather than slogging through low and high rank to get to the final stuff (because by jesus, Generations was a slog).

If you buy Generations Ultimate and DON'T own Generations, you'll just make a new character as usual, and play through the game normally.

It will all seem like a seemless experience and you won't really have any idea where the Generations content originally ended and the new Ultimate content begins.

What would be really sweet though, is a Nintendo Switch port of Generations Ultimate, with the same easy transferring of save file between home console and 3DS like we had with 3 Ultimate.

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