UFC 205 New York 12th November Confirmed

simon500 · 28-09-2016 11:47pm

Number 1 contender than number 2, 3, 4, 5 ........ Why was McGregor obssesed with the rematch with Nate not giving one to Aldo at same time...?????? CIRCUS

qwabercd · 28-09-2016 11:49pm

It's like every second week it alternates between a new McGregor basher and a new McGregor nuthugger. Would you be bothered wasting your time.

Depp · 28-09-2016 11:51pm

simon500 wrote: »

Number 1 contender than number 2, 3, 4, 5 ........ Why was McGregor obssesed with the rematch with Nate not giving one to Aldo at same time...?????? CIRCUS

No. 2 & 3 already have a fight scheduled, 4 & 5 are both coming off losses, and number 1 hasnt fought a top 15 fighter in over two years and is coming off a lackluster win over the 74th ranked fighter in the division. so they all are ahead in the pecking order of the guy who just beat no.4? once again, good logic!

what did you think when frankie edgar got an immediate title shot when he first moved down to 145? did he deserve it then?

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:02am

Dana promised Aldo a rematch and promised Khabib title shot. He also said McGregor going to have to defend the FW belt or he will take the belt of him. Prove you are a champion and than fight for another belt.

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:04am

simon500 wrote: »

Dana promised Aldo a rematch and promised Khabib title shot. He also said McGregor going to have to defend the FW belt or he will take the belt of him. Prove you are a champion and than fight for another belt.

so your entire arguement is based on dana not keeping to his word? welcome to the ufc buddy

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:04am

Depp wrote: »

No. 2 & 3 already have a fight scheduled, 4 & 5 are both coming off losses, and number 1 hasnt fought a top 15 fighter in over two years and is coming off a lackluster win over the 74th ranked fighter in the division. so they all are ahead in the pecking order of the guy who just beat no.4? once again, good logic!

what did you think when frankie edgar got an immediate title shot when he first moved down to 145? did he deserve it then?

Frankie defended his belt first!!!

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:06am

simon500 wrote: »

Frankie defended his belt first!!!

*lost

so who deserves the 155 shot then? 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14 or 15 maybe?

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:09am

Depp wrote: »

*lost

so who deserves the 155 shot then? 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14 or 15 maybe?

Number 1 contender who is undefeated.

brinty · 29-09-2016 12:11am

simon500 wrote:

Number 1 contender who is undefeated.

Who the champion chose not to face
Took mcgregor instead
At his old pay rate...

So Alvarez is to blame

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:11am

simon500 wrote: »

Number 1 contender who is undefeated.

coming off a poor win against the 74th ranked guy after two years out, needs to beat a top guy before hes earned it on merit.

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:14am

brinty wrote: »

Who the champion chose not to face
Took mcgregor instead
At his old pay rate...

So Alvarez is to blame

Alvarez had nothing to say. Conor is the one making decisions.
Lets get rid of rankings and let the guy who has bigger mouth fight another trashtalker and call it UFC-WWE-KFC

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:16am

simon500 wrote: »

Alvarez had nothing to say. Conor is the one making decisions.
Lets get rid of rankings and let the guy who has bigger mouth fight another trashtalker and call it UFC-WWE-KFC

conspiracy theories. alvarez had two contracts, one for khabib, one for mcgregor, he signed the one for mcgregor, therefore it was his decision.

brinty · 29-09-2016 12:16am

simon500 wrote:

Alvarez had nothing to say. Conor is the one making decisions. Lets get rid of rankings and let the guy who has bigger mouth fight another trashtalker and call it UFC-WWE-KFC

So Conor made Alvarez's decision fur Alvarez
Are you for real

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:20am

If Conor gets the belt and if hes gonna do what he said its going to be absolute mess:
"I"already beat Max, that doesn’t excite me"
"I KO’d Aldo in 13 seconds, that doesn’t excite me"
"Frankie had his chance, but couldn’t beat Aldo. that doesn’t excite me."
"Khabib is just a grappler, that doesn’t excite me."
"RDA had his chance to fight me, but pulled out with a bruised foot."
"beg me"
Is this what you guys want???

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:20am

simon500 wrote: »

Alvarez had nothing to say. Conor is the one making decisions.
Lets get rid of rankings and let the guy who has bigger mouth fight another trashtalker and call it UFC-WWE-KFC

Conor's dodging Khabib, Conor's Dodging Aldo, Alvarez is dodging Khabib, Conor's in the mma illuminati, get your story straight at least...

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:21am

simon500 wrote: »

If Conor gets the belt and if hes gonna do what he said its going to be absolute mess:
"I"already beat Max, that doesn’t excite me"
"I KO’d Aldo in 13 seconds, that doesn’t excite me"
"Frankie had his chance, but couldn’t beat Aldo. that doesn’t excite me."
"Khabib is just a grappler, that doesn’t excite me."
"RDA had his chance to fight me, but pulled out with a bruised foot."
"beg me"
Is this what you guys want???

so he's gonna fight no-one? get real, please.

brinty · 29-09-2016 12:22am

simon500 wrote:

If Conor gets the belt and if hes gonna do what he said its going to be absolute mess: "I"already beat Max, that doesnâ€™t excite me" "I KOâ€™d Aldo in 13 seconds, that doesnâ€™t excite me" "Frankie had his chance, but couldnâ€™t beat Aldo. that doesnâ€™t excite me." "Khabib is just a grappler, that doesnâ€™t excite me." "RDA had his chance to fight me, but pulled out with a bruised foot." "beg me" Is this what you guys want???

Yawwwwwnnnnnn
You're boring me now

In the words of a great man....
Who the duck is that....

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:23am

Depp wrote: »

so he's gonna fight no-one? get real, please.

that is what Conor said, not me and it is real

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:26am

brinty wrote: »

Yawwwwwnnnnnn
You're boring me now

In the words of a great man....
Who the duck is that....

sorry for being boring:)

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:27am

simon500 wrote: »

that is what Conor said, not me and it is real

so he said he's going to win the 155 title and just sit in his house with both belts and never take a fight again? can I get a link to this?

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:33am

Depp wrote: »

so he said he's going to win the 155 title and just sit in his house with both belts and never take a fight again? can I get a link to this?

watch hte press conference

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:35am

simon500 wrote: »

watch hte press conference

watched it live, he never said he was going to be turning down all fights after winning essentially retiring

bobmalooka · 29-09-2016 12:36am

simon500 wrote: »

watch hte press conference

He also said he runs New York and could buy & sell Philly amongst a whole pile of other **** to steal the show.

Is it really beyond your comprehension that maybe some of it is **** talk to get under some people's skin?

Edit: also when did he dismiss Khabib at the press conference?

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:38am

bobmalooka wrote: »

He also said he runs New York and could buy & sell Philly amongst a whole pile of other **** to steal the show.

Is it really beyond your comprehension that maybe some of it is **** talk to get under some people's skin?

Edit: also when did he dismiss Khabib at the press conference?

nah everything he said at the presser was literal...he's the actual Mayor now

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:39am

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/28/13083986/conor-mcgregor-says-ufc-will-have-to-gather-an-army-to-take-one-of

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:43am

simon500 wrote: »

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/28/13083986/conor-mcgregor-says-ufc-will-have-to-gather-an-army-to-take-one-of

in other news the ufc have partnered with blackwater, the partnership begins on the 13th of november 2016

bobmalooka · 29-09-2016 12:44am

simon500 wrote: »

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/28/13083986/conor-mcgregor-says-ufc-will-have-to-gather-an-army-to-take-one-of

At least you can't accuse him of dodging the army

Where in the press conference did he utter the words about Khabib that you quoted?

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:46am

bobmalooka wrote: »

At least you can't accuse him of dodging the army

Where in the press conference did he utter the words about Khabib that you quoted?

read my post again

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:50am

bobmalooka wrote: »

At least you can't accuse him of dodging the army

Where in the press conference did he utter the words about Khabib that you quoted?

Dont get me wrong. Conor earned his chance to fight for the belt in FW division. I agree with it. Aldo as a long time champion deserved the immediate rematch. Do you agree wit this? Conor got his rematch with Nate? Was that right at that time?

Depp · 29-09-2016 12:53am

simon500 wrote: »

Dont get me wrong. Conor earned his chance to fight for the belt in FW division. I agree with it. Aldo as a long time champion deserved the immediate rematch. Do you agree wit this? Conor got his rematch with Nate? Was that right at that time?

under other circumstances maybe like a 5 round split decision or an early finish, but a 13 second ko doesnt warrant an immediate rematch by any measure

was the nate rematch right? doesn't really matter as its in the past and he won it

simon500 · 29-09-2016 12:57am

Depp wrote: »

under other circumstances maybe like a 5 round split decision or an early finish, but a 13 second ko doesnt warrant an immediate rematch by any measure

was the nate rematch right? doesn't really matter as its in the past and he won it

Aldo defended his belt 9 times! Was not picking opponents. That doesnt warrant a rematch in your opinion? Conor was submitted in the second rd by Nate. Got a rematch straight away.

13s KO is in the past also

simon500 · 29-09-2016 1:03am

anyway, its been a pleasure talking to you

Depp · 29-09-2016 1:04am

simon500 wrote: »

Aldo defended his belt 9 times! Was not picking opponents. That doesnt warrant a rematch in your opinion? Conor was submitted in the second rd by Nate. Got a rematch straight away.

13s KO is in the past also

*7 times. Conor got his rematch and whether it was right or not, aldo did not, its not possible to retroactively give him an immediate rematch as both he and conor have fought since, I cant quite figure out what point you're trying to make?

simon500 · 29-09-2016 1:05am

if you read previous posts you will find out. time for bed. cheers

StringerBell · 29-09-2016 1:06am

Depp wrote: »

so he said he's going to win the 155 title and just sit in his house with both belts and never take a fight again? can I get a link to this?

In his defence he didn't say he would never fight again, just that nobody had anything for him really, he mentioned something about dragging Floyd Mayweather out of bed or something

bobmalooka · 29-09-2016 1:06am

simon500 wrote: »

read my post again

"Khabib is just a grappler, that doesn’t excite me."

I did, I still have no recollection of McGregor saying what you've attributed to him.

Depp · 29-09-2016 1:07am

simon500 wrote: »

if you read previous posts you will find out. time for bed. cheers

look, noones saying you have to be a mcgregor fan, but fi your only going to come on to make thinly veiled shots either admit your dislike or get better at disguising it.

simon500 · 29-09-2016 1:12am

Depp wrote: »

look, noones saying you have to be a mcgregor fan, but fi your only going to come on to make thinly veiled shots either admit your dislike or get better at disguising it.

I am a fan of McGregor. He is great fighter, excelent striker in my honest opinion. But Im a fan of mma not WWE. Would like to see the sport the way it used to be not as an entertaining bussines. Thats it.
I dont want to accuse anyone. BTW: McGregor 3nd round.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 29-09-2016 1:15am

Has it been discussed yet or do we know what time Irish time the main card will start?

Axwell · 29-09-2016 1:16am

3am same as always

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 29-09-2016 1:22am

Axwell wrote: »

3am same as always

Feck sake. That's bull****.

Axwell · 29-09-2016 1:27am

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Feck sake. That's bull****.

Why - its the usual time it would be on for PPV reasons.

UFC 205: New York City Start Times
Main Card on Pay-Per-View: 10 p.m. ET / 7 p.m. PT
Prelims on FOX Sports 1: 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT
Prelims on UFC Fight Pass: TBD

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 29-09-2016 1:30am

Axwell wrote: »

Why - its the usual time it would be on for PPV reasons.

UFC 205: New York City Start Times
Main Card on Pay-Per-View: 10 p.m. ET / 7 p.m. PT
Prelims on FOX Sports 1: 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT
Prelims on UFC Fight Pass: TBD

Just thought as its on the East coast we would get it 3 hours earlier. 3 am is such a pain to wait until but has to be done.

StringerBell · 29-09-2016 1:44am

They like to keep a consistent time

Mellor · 29-09-2016 2:44am

simon500 wrote: »

Im not saying that Conor doesnt deserve a title shot at all but he needs to fight 1 or 2 top 5 oponnent first.

Every incumbent champion, who is willing to fight for anther title gets an immediate title shot.
It's always been that way. Everyone gets that opportunity, most champs just talked about it. McGregor is the first guy to act on it in a long time.

simon500 wrote: »

Picking and choosing smaller strikers that are not at his striking level. He will never fight Nurmagomedov!!!

When RDA had the belt he was fighting RDA.
Now Alvarez has the belt, so it's Alverez. This is really simple.

Eddie has the belt, Conor didn't pick him to become champ.

simon500 wrote: »

Aldo deserves a rematch with McGregor 10 times more than McGregor deserves to fight for a LW belt. Aldo gave McGregor a chance to fight for the belt. He did not pick opponents and as a long time champion he deserves more respect.

Aldo was offered a shot at the 155 belt when he was champ too. He didn't take it.

simon500 wrote: »

Aldo defended his belt 9 times! Was not picking opponents. That doesnt warrant a rematch in your opinion?

Aldo is next at 145. Nobody is skipping him.
Eddie isn't fighting for the 145 belt.

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Just thought as its on the East coast we would get it 3 hours earlier. 3 am is such a pain to wait until but has to be done.

It's the first event in NewYork, not the first event on the East coast. same as every other east coast event

Foxtrol · 29-09-2016 3:26am

simon500 wrote: »

Khabib vs Nate and Conor vs Nate. Look at the difference.

The difference being Conor fought him fought him in the two biggest events in history while Khabib fought him in the stands at a WSOF event.

I agree, there's a big difference.

Depp · 29-09-2016 3:56am

Depp wrote: »

wonder will pp have odds for mark henry starting on conor/jk at some stage during the run in to this fight? :D

https://twitter.com/SevereMMA/status/781325646794518528

called it!

really didnt see this one coming!

Kirby · 29-09-2016 4:00am

Mellor wrote: »

Aldo was offered a shot at the 155 belt when he was champ too. He didn't take it.

In all fairness this isnt really true. He was told he could have a shot at 155 but he had to give up his belt first. Conor is being offered the shot and being allowed to keep his 145 belt.

Now you can argue Conor deserves the latitude of course.....but lets not pretend this is normal. It's not. Conor gets special treatment not afforded to any other fighter past or present. Nobody has been allowed move weight classes as the champ unless they gave up their belt first. Until now.

TimRiggins · 29-09-2016 5:28am

Kirby wrote: »

In all fairness this isnt really true. He was told he could have a shot at 155 but he had to give up his belt first. Conor is being offered the shot and being allowed to keep his 145 belt.

Now you can argue Conor deserves the latitude of course.....but lets not pretend this is normal. It's not. Conor gets special treatment not afforded to any other fighter past or present. Nobody has been allowed move weight classes as the champ unless they gave up their belt first. Until now.

BJ Penn kept his lightweight belt while going for the Welterweight title. Went back and defended it twice after.

Mellor · 29-09-2016 7:10am

Kirby wrote: »

In all fairness this isnt really true. He was told he could have a shot at 155 but he had to give up his belt first. Conor is being offered the shot and being allowed to keep his 145 belt.

They were concerned that Aldo holding two titles would mean less frequent defences. Which is no matter who the champs, including Conor.

Regardless, did Aldo turn around and say
"I'm keeping my belt, I've cleared the division, I'm fighting Pettis next. Book the fight."

If he did, there's zero chance that the UFC turn down the prospect of a superfight.

Now you can argue Conor deserves the latitude of course.....but lets not pretend this is normal. It's not. Conor gets special treatment not afforded to any other fighter past or present. Nobody has been allowed move weight classes as the champ unless they gave up their belt first. Until now.

That is incorrect. As above, BJ Penn, the only incumbent champ to move to and challenge for a title keep his belt.
The only time it has happened, the challenger kept his belt.

If GSP wanted a shot at Silva, Silva a shot at Jones, or Jones a shot as the HW belt. They would have waltz into those fights, belt intact too.

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