First Dates Ireland *read first post*

yerwanthere123

Username here wrote: »

"Not yet a woman" :pac: :pac: :pac:

PhilOssophy

pgj2015 wrote: »

it was a bit out of order the fat one telling him last year to get his teeth sorted out on national tv, she just met him in fairness. none of her business, imagine going out with her.

Yeah I said the same the other night, scolding him like a child. She wasn't exactly princess charming herself, either in looks or on the weighing scales. She was in no position to abuse him like that.

I felt sorry for him, he was obviously very nervous. I can honestly say, I reckon I could freeze totally on that show too with the nerves.

He seems like a quiet man if a bit simple, all yer wan had to do was say "We'll meet again as friends". Just because you have had a tough life, doesn't mean you should just trample all over him and humiliate him in the process.

leggo

I find this thread fascinating yet mental at times. I’ve met some lads who are just allergic to the concept of rejection, like even just hearing of someone they don’t know getting rejected sends them off on a deeply personal rant about someone else they don’t know regardless of merit because they’ve obviously got their own issues with that, and it’s the only thing I can think of as any kind of explanation for some of the comments I see here.

Do people know how TV is made like? You don’t have to have years of experience in the industry like, you can watch this show and see it for yourself. They ask them questions that force them to give reactions. If they know there’s more to it, they’ll ask a deeper question so everyone can’t get away with saying “no spark” as a cop out because that’s bad TV and everyone here would moan if they did. They can manipulate and even edit a scenario to make it look as they need, so one party looks sympathetic and the other looks like a villain because you need that to get the most emotive response from the viewer, even if that’s not how the actual interaction played out in real time.

I felt bad for the nervous lad too. But also it’s easy for me to do so because he was only in my life for a few minutes. In the real world, it’s painful to be on a date with someone falling over themselves. You feel bad and try help them for an hour, maybe two, and then you’re eventually like “ah here, this is my life too, you’re a grown adult and it’s not my job to babysit you.” Then you just lose all hope of anything productive coming of the night and have to let go of any hopes you had. His date probably spent months looking forward to First Dates, had all of her mates on standby for updates, spent a couple hundred quid on outfits, make-up etc, and genuinely wanted to meet someone. What she got was a lad who could barely get a sentence out. She tried to be nice and help him along but he didn’t help himself either. And, even in the comments, she was likely told to be honest, and she probably thought she was helping him with feedback he NEEDS to hear if he wants to meet someone. This is the second time now a First Dates date has gone tits up for him with stuff he could’ve worked on beforehand and nobody has pulled him aside beforehand either time, so it’s possible he just doesn’t have good advice coming in or isn’t listening. I had zero issues with how she handled it because I could see myself, and a lot of others, doing the exact same thing in her shoes.

PhilOssophy

That's all true leggo but I think if she is peed off with him because it didn't work out, she needs to understand the whole concept of going on a blind date on a TV show. There is always a chance that it'll be a waste of time and she could have just said "maybe as friends" instead of trampling all over the poor man's feelings
. He looked like he was a nervous wreck on the show so who knows what his general mental health situation is

leggo

Disagree. Last time he was on the show, his date agreed that he needed to get his teeth fixed. He did and was much happier then came back. It feels ‘mean’ to give people real feedback, and I think Irish people in particular are mortified by the idea of direct communication, but you’re actually helping them more by giving them something they can work with. That flowery “you’re a lovely lad and you’ll make someone happy but not for me” language makes this chap feel better for a second but doesn’t help him when there’s something very clear we can all see he needs to work on. All it does is protect the person giving the feedback from an awkward conversation.

If she was malicious with it I’d agree, but she wasn’t. He wants to find love, he needs to hear this stuff and deal with it. It’s uncomfortable that it happened on TV but if he didn’t apply and go through all the steps to get there it wouldn’t have.

KevRossi

Yeah, I think the woman he had on the last date did the best thing for him; told him straight out what he knew. She's probably well aware that she's no picture herself, but I think she meant it well and sometimes good hard advice is better than beating around the bush and being nice.

His date this year was disappointed with him the moment she walked in the door, you can see it in her face the moment she sees him on the stool. He was difficult, she made an effort and was given a guy who had difficulty holding a conversation, so she probably felt the evening was a waste of time as was getting ready for it. She could have dropped him with a bit more subtlety though.

pgj2015

The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.

ohnonotgmail

pgj2015 wrote: »

The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.

she didn't tell him anything he didnt know.

pgj2015

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

she didn't tell him anything he didnt know.

TV

KevRossi

pgj2015 wrote: »

The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.

Up to the editor to leave it in or out. She was fine in telling him IMO. It also worked and he's a lot better for it. He said so himself.

pgj2015

just watched it again there, she comes in, shows her disappointment straight away, then is either very nervous herself or just so disappointed that she doesnt even try to strike up some conversation.

leggo

pgj2015 wrote: »

TV

A TV show he applied to and went through several stages of auditions to be on.

pgj2015

KevRossi wrote: »

Up to the editor to leave it in or out. She was fine in telling him IMO. It also worked and he's a lot better for it. He said so himself.

what if he had pointed out to her that she was too obese and needed to go on a diet? would that have been ok in your opinion?

pgj2015

leggo wrote: »

A TV show he applied to and went through several stages of auditions to be on.

This is about whether she was right to call him out on TV over his teeth.

ohnonotgmail

pgj2015 wrote: »

just watched it again there, she comes in, shows her disappointment straight away, then is either very nervous herself or just so disappointed that she doesnt even try to strike up some conversation.

she was the only one who did make an effort to get a conversation going. Eventually she gave up but you cant blame her. He gave nothing back.

ohnonotgmail

pgj2015 wrote: »

what if he had pointed out to her that she was too obese and needed to go on a diet? would that have been ok in your opinion?

no because it would not have been correct. She was not obese.

pgj2015

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no because it would not have been correct. She was not obese.

Im talking about his date from last year.

ohnonotgmail

pgj2015 wrote: »

Im talking about his date from last year.

maybe she was a little fat. some people dont mind that. It wouldn't put everybody off. His teeth, on the other hand, would. No amountof sparkling wit or personality would cover for them.

pgj2015

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

maybe she was a little fat. some people dont mind that. It wouldn't put everybody off. His teeth, on the other hand, would. No amountof sparkling wit or personality would cover for them.

I get ya, as long as its something that everyone hates, you can say what ya like.


we will leave it at that.

ohnonotgmail

pgj2015 wrote: »

I get ya, as long as its something that everyone hates, you can say what ya like.


we will leave it at that.

It was a blaringly obvious issue with him and it would have been ridiculous if she hadn't mentioned it.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It was a blaringly obvious issue with him and it would have been ridiculous if she hadn't mentioned it.

Not really sure if making personal insults to someone on a first date is something that would be ridiculous if not mentioned.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

Not really sure if making personal insults to someone on a first date is something that would be ridiculous if not mentioned.

she didn't say it as an insult. she said it as a matter of fact.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

she didn't say it as an insult. she said it as a matter of fact.

For what purpose. Doesn’t effect her.

leggo

joeguevara wrote: »

Not really sure if making personal insults to someone on a first date is something that would be ridiculous if not mentioned.

Sorry but where was he personally insulted? He said he was going to get his teeth fixed and his date said something like “Yeah that’d be a good idea.” The second date encouraged him not to be as nervous when he’s on a date. Zero insults there, people just struggle with it because it’s true and it’s uncomfortable to see someone get real feedback. But if he’s told “ah you’re lovely, don’t change a thing” and believes it, he’s going to get no further.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

For what purpose. Doesn’t effect her.

The purpose of helping him. which it did. he admitted this himself.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

The purpose of helping him. which it did. he admitted this himself.

When she said it she wasn’t to know what effect it would have.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

When she said it she wasn’t to know what effect it would have.

the man knew himself he had an issue. she said it to him in a non-judgemental way. I'm not seeing the issue in what she said or how she said it. It is a typical irish thing where you get chastised for stating the obvious.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the man knew himself he had an issue. she said it to him in a non-judgemental way. I'm not seeing the issue in what she said or how she said it. It is a typical irish thing where you get chastised for stating the obvious.

It is not something that you say on a first date.

ohnonotgmail

joeguevara wrote: »

It is not something that you say on a first date.

it is not like there was going to be a second.

joeguevara

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it is not like there was going to be a second.

Exactly. She had no need to say it. But this is a case of agree to disagree.

AMKC

Its the season finale. I don't think there will be a season of this next year unless its shot later in the year which means it will air later next year if there is one so enjoy this episode it might be the last one for a couple of years.

AMKC

She has such a cute walk. I wonder do I look like that when I out in heels. I think I do now actually lol.

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God that barman annoys me !!

AMKC

Ksadanians lol I love it.

AMKC

She has a good sense of humour. I like her. The other girl that came on first is nice too.

AMKC

Wow she is 61. She looks great for her age.

Assetbacked

Rebecca is a great one to talk about herself, not asking anything of the guy.

castletownman

She didn't specify that she works an actual job.

I say that contributed to the bout of homelessness too.

AMKC

Fair play to her going through all that. Not easy. I am not sure if he is the best match for her do. Be interesting to see if he says yes.

Laura is bulling haha

castletownman

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Laura is bulling haha

Looks like he came straight from his restaurant too

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She's not impressed with Indian lad, not a bit...

Mad_maxx

AMKC wrote: »

Fair play to her going through all that. Not easy. I am not sure if he is the best match for her do. Be interesting to see if he says yes.

he seems exactly the right match for her

AMKC

Lol they though Uisce was Whiskey lol. I don't think these two at the bar are going to work out but could be wrong.

AMKC

Oh great start she tells him her Father is watching him basically lol.

castletownman

Indian fella got some fright when she said her Dad was right behind him

Am I the only one that sees it?

Andrew00

Father Stone

AMKC

He seems like a cool father all the same.

AMKC

I was right.