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The guy that flies over South Park

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Discodog wrote: »
    Paramotors were mentioned on Pat Kenny this morning. The law is about to change. All Paramotors will have to have a clear registration number. All pilots will have to comply with regulations so no more exceptions or grey areas.

    People will be able to report dangerous flying. Low flying is restricted to take off & landing. All pilots must be insured & there will be separate qualifications to carry a passenger.

    All of this has been bought to a head because of this pilot. There have been numerous complaints including complaints to the IAA from the Guards.

    No one was really concerned about Paramotors before this guy.

    Was he mentioned on the show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Was he mentioned on the show?

    No. It was about a girl who is going to use a Paramotor to follow migrating swans. She was on with an Irish Paramotor expert & he said about the change in the rules.

    I heard that the final straw was when our guy buzzed Oranmore Garda Headquarters & so I was told, a car was dispatched to apprehend him but they lost him.

    I heard, from a pilot, that there had been talk of rule changes but it wasn't on the urgent list until this guy came along. Apparently a number of people had already complained to the Gardai - I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread. And bare in mind that Salthill has cctv camera & a Garda station on the Prom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Discodog wrote: »
    No. It was about a girl who is going to use a Paramotor to follow migrating swans. She was on with an Irish Paramotor expert & he said about the change in the rules.

    I heard that the final straw was when our guy buzzed Oranmore Garda Headquarters & so I was told, a car was dispatched to apprehend him but they lost him.

    I heard, from a pilot, that there had been talk of rule changes but it wasn't on the urgent list until this guy came along. Apparently a number of people had already complained to the Gardai - I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread. And bare in mind that Salthill has cctv camera & a Garda station on the Prom.

    Proposed changes,been on-going for over ten years now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    mulbot wrote: »
    Proposed changes,been on-going for over ten years now

    I don't think that it was a priority until this guy came along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Discodog wrote: »
    Paramotors were mentioned on Pat Kenny this morning. The law is about to change. All Paramotors will have to have a clear registration number. All pilots will have to comply with regulations so no more exceptions or grey areas.

    People will be able to report dangerous flying. Low flying is restricted to take off & landing. All pilots must be insured & there will be separate qualifications to carry a passenger.

    All of this has been bought to a head because of this pilot. There have been numerous complaints including complaints to the IAA from the Guards.

    No one was really concerned about Paramotors before this guy.

    Carried on the motor? What is defined as low flying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    mulbot wrote: »
    Carried on the motor? What is defined as low flying?

    Whatever it says in the regs that will now apply to everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Discodog wrote: »
    Whatever it says in the regs that will now apply to everyone.

    Same as what's been mentioned for over a decade-I await the day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭granturismo


    mulbot wrote: »
    Same as what's been mentioned for over a decade-I await the day

    While we wait - I posted before that maybe people should have a kite flying meet or a puc ard competition if he's flying over houses or urban areas. Kite flying is a traditional past time on the beach (not the prom).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    While we wait - I posted before that maybe people should have a kite flying meet or a puc ard competition if he's flying over houses or urban areas. Kite flying is a traditional past time on the beach (not the prom).

    To stop him flying?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    Discodog wrote: »
    Paramotors were mentioned on Pat Kenny this morning. The law is about to change. All Paramotors will have to have a clear registration number. All pilots will have to comply with regulations so no more exceptions or grey areas.

    People will be able to report dangerous flying. Low flying is restricted to take off & landing. All pilots must be insured & there will be separate qualifications to carry a passenger.

    All of this has been bought to a head because of this pilot. There have been numerous complaints including complaints to the IAA from the Guards.

    No one was really concerned about Paramotors before this guy.

    How do you know that?


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How do you know that?
    There was nothing in the Pat Kenny piece - just a quick explanation of what it is and an assertion that the aviation authority is preparing to regulate the sector any time now. And then a discussion about migratory swans.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Still a bunch of blowhards in this thread ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    How do you know that?

    Well it's some coincidence that the IAA have been talking about regulations for years. but suddenly decide to introduce them now.

    People complained to the Guards & then the idiot buzzed Garda Headquarters. It's doesn't take much to believe that his flying has forced the IAA to act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Still a bunch of blowhards in this thread ...
    Please keep it civil thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭misstearheus


    Has yer man posted on this Thread I wonder?!? /rubbernecker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Has yer man posted on this Thread I wonder?!? /rubbernecker

    I wondered that too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭misstearheus


    Glad to know I'm not the only nosey soul around discodog! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Glad to know I'm not the only nosey soul around discodog! :D

    Nah we are just inquisitive :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Tommy Kelly


    Has yer man posted on this Thread I wonder?!? /rubbernecker

    Not to sure if it was this thread he had opened up or not but it was definitely boards.ie he was looking at on his phone when he did a loop the loop over my head in Kinvara there yesterday evening.

    Some operator.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Guy killed using one yesterday in Co Meath.

    Can you imagine the damage it would have done if it came down on people?


    LINK:

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Guy killed using one yesterday in Co Meath.

    Can you imagine the damage it would have done if it came down on people?


    LINK:

    True,same as if a plane ,helicopter came down on people too. In relation to this thread,Yes,if the guy in galway does be flying over people's heads then it would be common sense to stop,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buzz11


    Here are some pics of a paraglider "buzzing" blackrock last Friday evening.

    He was flying low over a boat in the bay and then came in to do some low sweeps over blackrock.
    It didn't look particularly dangerous but he was just a pest and creating unnecessary hassle purely for his own adrenaline rush.

    He then flew towards gentian hill and came back an hour later.

    http://s19.postimg.org/wq79qen4j/2016_06_03_19_33_35.jpg

    http://s19.postimg.org/dju2n86mr/2016_06_03_19_33_37.jpg

    http://s19.postimg.org/f3zelmf0z/2016_06_03_19_33_46.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭tonyhiggins


    buzz11 wrote: »
    Here are some pics of a paraglider "buzzing" blackrock last Friday evening.

    He was flying low over a boat in the bay and then came in to do some low sweeps over blackrock.
    It didn't look particularly dangerous but he was just a pest and creating unnecessary hassle purely for his own adrenaline rush.

    He then flew towards gentian hill and came back an hour later.

    Thanks for that.

    That looks really, really stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Thanks for that.

    That looks really, really stupid.

    Why stupid? I don't like flying like this personally,i prefer to get up and away,following rivers,over lakes,etc taking pics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    mulbot wrote: »
    Why stupid? I don't like flying like this personally,i prefer to get up and away,following rivers,over lakes,etc taking pics

    From a safety point of view, he looks too close to the divers and the boat, but it's hard to get perspective in a photo.
    However, from an enjoyment point of view, he looks annoying as f*ck on a gorgeous sunny day, with his lawnmower yoke wrecking heads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Nancybee


    As a matter of interest a foot launched powered paraglider is classed as a microlight, and as such is subject to the same rules and regulations.
    Forum rules prevent me posting the relevant links to the IAA website, but I can post the rules and regs if anyone is interested.

    Microlight Aeroplane Classes

    Microlight aeroplanes come in three different types (referred to as "Classes") ;

    (a) Three-axis microlights - these are controlled by conventional ailerons on the wings and elevators and a rudder at the tail;
    (b) Weight-shift flexwing microlights - these have a delta shaped hang-glider type wing and are controlled by shifting the aeroplane's centre-of-gravity;
    (c) Powered parachute microlights - these fly under a paraglider type canopy wing these have a shrouded propeller (i.e. a protective guard around the propeller which prevents it interfering with the lines attaching the paraglider canopy).
    Some of the above microlight classes may be operated in seaplane or amphibian versions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Nancybee wrote: »
    As a matter of interest a foot launched powered paraglider is classed as a microlight, and as such is subject to the same rules and regulations.
    Forum rules prevent me posting the relevant links to the IAA website, but I can post the rules and regs if anyone is interested.

    Microlight Aeroplane Classes

    Microlight aeroplanes come in three different types (referred to as "Classes") ;

    (a) Three-axis microlights - these are controlled by conventional ailerons on the wings and elevators and a rudder at the tail;
    (b) Weight-shift flexwing microlights - these have a delta shaped hang-glider type wing and are controlled by shifting the aeroplane's centre-of-gravity;
    (c) Powered parachute microlights - these fly under a paraglider type canopy wing these have a shrouded propeller (i.e. a protective guard around the propeller which prevents it interfering with the lines attaching the paraglider canopy).
    Some of the above microlight classes may be operated in seaplane or amphibian versions

    Already posted & the regulations are about to change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Nancybee


    Discodog wrote: »
    Already posted & the regulations are about to change.

    Sorry about that

    Thanks.

    If they are about to be changed, (but not yet changed), then the present rules and regulations still apply.
    He is breaking those rules, and hence breaking the law.
    Risking his own life for his enjoyment is one thing, but putting other peoples
    lives at risk is altogether a different thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭tonyhiggins


    mulbot wrote: »
    Why stupid? I don't like flying like this personally,i prefer to get up and away,following rivers,over lakes,etc taking pics

    As the people above said, being a pest and breaking the law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Nancybee wrote: »
    Sorry about that

    Thanks.

    If they are about to be changed, (but not yet changed), then the present rules and regulations still apply.
    He is breaking those rules, and hence breaking the law.
    Risking his own life for his enjoyment is one thing, but putting other peoples
    lives at risk is altogether a different thing.

    I wouldn't expect you to read 19 pages :)

    Paramotor pilots claim that there is a loophole in the regulations that mean that they don't have to follow rules. According to the IAA this is about to change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Discodog wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect you to read 19 pages :)

    Paramotor pilots claim that there is a loophole in the regulations that mean that they don't have to follow rules. According to the IAA this is about to change.

    The Irish Air Laws below apply to FLPA Pilots.

    I've just put that heading and not the list because that's where the loophole is-An exempted pilot is not a FLPA pilot in terms of IAA law- Perhaps it will change,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    https://www.iaa.ie/docs/default-source/publications/aeronautical-notices/g---general/an-g13-issue-01powered-paragliders.pdf?sfvrsn=8,

    Here's the " new"regulations for powered pramotors-nothing's changed really,except to carry a registration number on the motor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭tonyhiggins


    Not sure if it's the same guy, but someone is paramotoring around over our houses here in near darkness...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deandean


    What's all the fear about one of these paraglider guys wiping out a city block or the prom if the engine fails??
    They are attached to a parachute!
    If the engine stops (all going well) they float gently to earth and hitch a lift home.
    No drama at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    deandean wrote: »
    What's all the fear about one of these paraglider guys wiping out a city block or the prom if the engine fails??
    They are attached to a parachute!
    If the engine stops (all going well) they float gently to earth and hitch a lift home.
    No drama at all.


    Try telling that to this guy's family

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭deathtocaptcha


    This is him - doesn't look to be flying dangerously here...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Saw him flying over Doughiska estates yesterday for 15 mins or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭chickendinner


    16 pages or so,
    Y'all need to get on with your own lives


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Great yokes altogether, you can even fly from Ireland to Africa on one of them :D

    Great competition for Michael :eek:

    Cork man to fly to Africa on craft powered by lawnmower engine

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    biko wrote: »
    Saw him flying over Doughiska estates yesterday for 15 mins or so.

    Is the same guy or someone else ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Not sure, he was far away in the sky :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    biko wrote: »
    Not sure, he was far away in the sky :D

    Far away or just very very small ? :pac:


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