Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016, Mod Warning in OP, 10/7

murpho999

OwaynOTT wrote: »

If you disagree with a post great, respond to it. The posts where people are just saying the thread is gone to dirt and not actually contributing themselves is annoying.
Posts where people are saying if a thing is funny or not are also annoying.
I don't understand why people feel the need do either, especially commenting on something they don't think is funny. Laugh or don't laugh, we don't need to know if it suits your sense of humour.

Ok, but I find you're doing the exact same thing you're complaining about.

If you don't want to know what people find funny or not , why should others know if you find something annoying or not?

klose

Pretty surprising to see kolo leave, surely means another central defender coming in with skrtel likely off and sakho on the bold step.

Francie Barrett

klose

klose wrote: »

Pretty surprising to see kolo leave.........

He was consistently very good in all of his performances for us this season, really impressive.

Perhaps at his age it was decided that he was getting too close to the point where the PL is too fast, too high a standard.

He'll be remembered fondly by most of the fanbase imo.

All going well he'll be replaced with an experienced player who has 2/3 years left at PL level as we do need to replace his experience as well his squad CB place.

BullBlackNova

I am actually gutted to see Kolo Toure leave.

He proved himself to be a model pro and a solid defender for the vast majority of his time here. Our man of the match in the Europa League final, the only one on the pitch who looked comfortable on the occasion.

It's telling that a player half regarded as a joke by fans of other clubs is remembered so fondly by fans of the ones he played for. Proper cult hero.

Suppose it probably means we'll be signing another new CB as Tony Barrett said earlier in the week, or (god forbid) keeping Martin Skrtel.

Aside from the loss of a CB, it is a loss of one of few properly experienced members of the squad too, which isn't ideal. More than once in the last few seasons we have been shown to have a weak underbelly and to choke one big occasions - experience helps in that regard and Kolo and Milner are two of the few players in the squad who have that.

Harry Palmr

A real pity, suppose the lack of EL/CL footie is what did for him in the end

Kolo Toure's game by numbers vs Sevilla:

100% tackles won
18 clearances
5 aerial duels won
5 blocks
3 interceptions

Buford T. Justice XIX

Liverpool's target Zielinski has given his priority to find a deal with Liverpool, choosing them and refusing Napoli proposal

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/740976326341955584

Francie Barrett

I'd like to see us sign a player in the Toure mould. 30+, experienced and ideally free. Save the cash for a goalscorer.

Washington Irving

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I'd like to see us sign a player in the Toure mould. 30+, experienced and ideally free. Save the cash for a goalscorer.

I hear Kolo Toure is available.

murpho999

Don't get the sadness for Toure, he has been the best of a bad bunch over the years and we need upgrading.

We have won nothing in years but a lot of posters don't seem to realise that it might be something to do with the players we have.

corwill

murpho999 wrote: »

Don't get the sadness for Toure, he has been the best of a bad bunch over the years and we need upgrading.

We have won nothing in years but a lot of posters don't seem to realise that it might be something to do with the players we have.

It all depends on who's replacing him, IMO. If another callow youth with "potential" comes in, you could understand some folk pining for a bit of real experience and leadership. Especially at centre half.

Harry Palmr

murpho999 wrote: »

Don't get the sadness for Toure, he has been the best of a bad bunch over the years and we need upgrading.

We have won nothing in years but a lot of posters don't seem to realise that it might be something to do with the players we have.

14 PL games 1 loss
Europe 7 games and 2 losses
League Cup 4 games and 1 loss in normal time and extra time

So that's 25 games of which only 5 were as a sub and four losses.

Great man to have as 4th choice, would have been a great man to have on the coaching staff.

Agent Coulson

I think that Zielinski lad wants to play for Liverpool more than Liverpool want to sign him.

OwaynOTT

murpho999 wrote: »

Ok, but I find you're doing the exact same thing you're complaining about.

If you don't want to know what people find funny or not , why should others know if you find something annoying or not?

I'm only looking for it to stop and for a bit more tolerance on the thread. It would be great if people just got along a bit better and less of the niggling and insulting posts.
Most of us are guilty of it, myself included.
Anyway, I'm done now.

BullBlackNova

murpho999 wrote: »

Don't get the sadness for Toure, he has been the best of a bad bunch over the years and we need upgrading.

We have won nothing in years but a lot of posters don't seem to realise that it might be something to do with the players we have.

Experience and leadership - two things our squad is lacking in droves.

We need an upgrade at CB but I'd be much happier to see a first team regular brought in at the expense of Martin Skrtel and keep Toure, for example.

If we end up with yet another 19/20 year old who we have to wait 5 years to see anything from, I'll be annoyed.

Harry Palmr

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Liverpool starlet Cameron Brannagan wanted by BOTH Real Madrid & Barcelona |@eaamalyon

http://bit.ly/22XATgv

Agent Coulson

So which one of the Liverpool trusted ITK reporters works at the Mirror otherwise it's total crap unless it comes from one of them I keep reading here.

dogbert27

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I'm only looking for it to stop and for a bit more tolerance on the thread. It would be great if people just got along a bit better and less of the niggling and insulting posts.
Most of us are guilty of it, myself included.
Anyway, I'm done now.

OwaynOTT

dogbert27 wrote: »

Can't see that in work.

dogbert27

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Can't see that in work.

It's Homer walking in to a boxing match with the world champion and his theme tune is "Why can't we be friends"

Now that you've made me explain the joke it's not funny anymore.

I'm annoyed that you made me unfunny.

I need to make a complaint.

Who do I complain to?

Washington Irving

dogbert27 wrote: »

the joke it's not funny anymore.

Close enough.

Owayn is missing out.

rob316

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So which one of the Liverpool trusted ITK reporters works at the Mirror otherwise it's total crap unless it comes from one of them I keep reading here.

Maddock and even he's not the best.

Agent Coulson

I see Kolo Toure is available on a free I think he'd be a great signing.

Kimbot

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I see Kolo Toure is available on a free I think he'd be a great signing.

Who forgot to buy him cake?

Straight Edge Punk

I cannot for the life of me understand the club not giving Kolo a new contract.

Kimbot

Straight Edge Punk wrote: »

I cannot for the life of me understand the club not giving Kolo a new contract.

They want him as a coach and he wants to continue playing.

Straight Edge Punk

jonnycivic wrote: »

They want him as a coach and he wants to continue playing.

Surely he could be given a player coach deal. He is the only proven winner we had in our team, it doesn't make sense in my head at all at all.

ebbsy

Looks like De Gea did'nt keep a clean sheet after all........

WarZ

ebbsy wrote: »

Looks like De Gea did'nt keep a clean sheet after all........

Shocking stuff. United seem to be, unluckily, a magnet for this sort of thing. RVP, Van Nistlerooy, Jonny Evans, DDG

Pretty unfortunate luck.

corwill

ebbsy wrote: »

Looks like De Gea did'nt keep a clean sheet after all........

The moral gymnastics will be hilarious.

mayordenis

corwill wrote: »

The moral gymnastics will be hilarious.

I'm not normally too holier than thou, but I don't think anything about this case will be hilarious.

corwill

mayordenis wrote: »

I'm not normally too holier than thou, but I don't think anything about this case will be hilarious.

Well, the claimed lack of practice is proving no impediment.

Harry Palmr

The full released list

McLaughlin,
Polgár,
Cleary,
Brewitt,
Touré,
Enrique,
O'Hanlon,
Marsh
Yeşil
Teixeira likely to follow - a contract offer is still on table. Sergi Canos could also leave as things stand

Sinclair, Rossiter and Tricket-Smith also left

mayordenis

corwill wrote: »

Well, the claimed lack of practice is proving no impediment.

Not going to argue with that, but really a case about rape isnt a good place for a game of one-ups-manship is it?

Agent Coulson

I understand Kolo wanting to play for as long as he can I just hope he was offered the chance to come back as a coach someday if he wanted.

Whatever club he ends up as a player or a coach or a manager will be a lucky one.

Luis Suarez on Kolo Toure...

https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/741213127392559104/photo/1

Agent Coulson

Two Irish lads released.

Released
Brewitt, Tom
Cleary, Daniel
Marsh, William George
McLaughlin, Ryan
O'Hanlon, Alex Joseph
Polgar, Kristof
Sanchez Diaz, Jose Enrique
Toure, Kolo Abib
Yesil, Samed

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2016-17/jun/100616-premier-league-clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html

corwill

mayordenis wrote: »

Not going to argue with that, but really a case about rape isnt a good place for a game of one-ups-manship is it?

That's not what my post referred to. No need to be obtuse.

PaddyWilliams

Agent Coulson wrote: »

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2016-17/jun/100616-premier-league-clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html

Yesil had such promise. Injuries screwed him.. Also surprised about O' Hanlon, thought he was meant to be handy enough

Straight Edge Punk

Agent Coulson wrote: »

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2016-17/jun/100616-premier-league-clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html

I am surprised to see Ryan McLaughlin on that list, I can see him joining Rossiter at Rangers.

corwill

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Two Irish lads released.



http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2016-17/jun/100616-premier-league-clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html

Teixara offered a new contract, according to that link, I think. I hadn't expected that.

Turtyturd

corwill wrote: »

The moral gymnastics will be hilarious.

List of crimes by order of seriousness.

1) Racial misunderstanding
2) Being wrongfully banned for PED use
3) Arranging rape parties/stealing donuts from Tesco

price690

Straight Edge Punk wrote: »

I am surprised to see Ryan McLaughlin on that list, I can see him joining Rossiter at Rangers.

Injuries hit McLaughlin hard. His loan spell at Aberdeen didn't go too well, i'd say a move down the divisions will be on the cards provided he can prove his fitness.

Rossiter made the right choice, some of these young lads get stick for moving on but you need to be playing senior football with someone by the age of 19-20.

Liverpool have a host of promising players who hung on at the club until their early 20s without ever getting any senior football and some of them don't have a career with anybody now.

If it looks like you are not getting a look in by 19 at the latest these lads need to think about moving on.

McLaughlin had alot of potential but hes 20-21 now, with probably not even 10 games of senior football. Clubs need to be found for lads like this when it becomes apparent they have no future with Liverpool, rather than this policy we seem to have of filling positions in the under 21s with players who can do a job until a promising u-18 player can make the step up.

price690

corwill wrote: »

Teixara offered a new contract, according to that link, I think. I hadn't expected that.

I'd say its more likely that Rossiter, Sinclair and Teixeira have had their registration witheld until the end of June/Early july.

That way tribunal fees can be arranged. Although Rossiter is going to Rangers for 250k but the other 2 will attract fees even when their deals expire.

We did the same with Brad Smith.

Straight Edge Punk

I wasn't slating Rossiter for moving, he absolutely made the right choice and I expect to see him back in the premier league within 3 seasons.

Harry Palmr

price690 wrote: »

I'd say its more likely that Rossiter, Sinclair and Teixeira have had their registration witheld until the end of June/Early july.

That way tribunal fees can be arranged. Although Rossiter is going to Rangers for 250k but the other 2 will attract fees even when their deals expire.

We did the same with Brad Smith.

Brad Smith had a rethink though, maybe Teixeira will.

Vicxas

Klopp wielding the big sword. In one way im impressed but im still sad to see Kolo leave

klose

Was certain mclaughlin would be a star here but turns out he was a mix of sturridge, wilshere and diaby in terms of injuries. Shame about yesil too, apparently had big things ahead of him but two acl injuies have him done. Teixeria could do worse things than head back to brighton full time.

marklazarcovic

Kolo to celtic for couple seasons maybe

Agent Coulson

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Kolo to celtic for couple seasons maybe

He is still to good for the Scottish league even at his age.

Monaco are interested by all accounts South of France would be hard to turn down.

corwill

Agent Coulson wrote: »

He is still to good for the Scottish league even at his age.

Monaco are interested by all accounts South of France would be hard to turn down.

After his performances this year, I can't quite get my head around how a year-long deal on the same terms, or maybe with a pay-as-you-play element, as back-up CB couldn't have been done. Especially if their desire for him to coach was genuine.

Given the shift he's put in since Xmas, he'll have no problem getting a year, maybe two, in France or Italy, maybe Spain.