Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016, Mod Warning in OP, 10/7

Kerrigooney

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Keeping this on the first page baby!

Have you come across any new pictures of the stand/stadium on your internet travels?

Agent Coulson

Sakho still been left in Limbo by UEFA will effect the summers transfers I would imagine to buy or not to buy a CB to wait and see or buy just in case.

ricero

Paul joyce tonight is saying its looking likely that mane is on his way to lfc for 30 million pounds.

Great player and adds some much needed pace to our attack

Harry Palmr

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Have you come across any new pictures of the stand/stadium on your internet travels?

Skyscraper City has loads and there is time lapse film on the official site of the stand being cleared and the new middle layer being up it. The exterior of the structure at the back now looks largely finished bar some detailing.

Hollister11

ricero wrote: »

Paul joyce tonight is saying its looking likely that mane is on his way to lfc for 30 million pounds.

Great player and adds some much needed pace to our attack

And in today's market, £30M isn't much as it was a few seasons ago with the new TV deal.

mosstin

ricero wrote: »

Paul joyce tonight is saying its looking likely that mane is on his way to lfc for 30 million pounds.

Great player and adds some much needed pace to our attack

Far from it yet. £30 million seems to be the going rate these days for exciting prospects who've spent a few seasons in the PL.

TitianGerm

ricero wrote: »

Paul joyce tonight is saying its looking likely that mane is on his way to lfc for 30 million pounds.

Great player and adds some much needed pace to our attack

Gives us something different and a good bit more pace in the final third.

Considering Deeney was rejected at £20m, Mane looks good at £30m.

citytillidie

Some recent stand pics here

https://imgur.com/a/ehgot

rob316

I couldn't care if he cost £50m, Mane is exactly the type of player we need. Young enough, lightning pace, goals and versatile.

Mane, Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino, Ings, Lallana, Origi as our attacking options next season looks very good.

Harry Palmr

30m is the 15m of two years ago, its a surprise (or maybe not!) that so many still think in old money terms. The game's gone mad. It must have if Watford really did want 30m for Troy Deeney.

Also

Southampton and Leicester City are interested in signing Joe Allen (Gary Jacob - The Times)

Hollister11

Set an asking price of 20M for allen.

10M is a steal

Harry Palmr

Yep we need an auction, could at least send him off with a "ka-ching!"

Kerrigooney

Hollister11 wrote: »

Set an asking price of 20M for allen.

10M is a steal

We paid £15m for him and he's better now and if £30m is the new £15m then we should be asking for £50m.

HardenendMan

citytillidie wrote: »

Some recent stand pics here

https://imgur.com/a/ehgot

I measured the stand from the pic on my phone. It is only 2 inches long. It is a stand for ants! How can we expect fans to attend if they can't fit into it?! It needs to be at least three times bigger than that!!

Harry Palmr

Kerrigooney wrote: »

We paid £15m for him and he's better now and if £30m is the new £15m then we should be asking for £50m.

One year left on his deal is the issue now, if enough clubs want him this summer then a decent price is possible if he stays after Sept 1st, then it'll be loose change in January. So he'll be sold and everyone else knows it.

martyos121

I'm all aboard the Mane train. Very exciting young player, tailor made for our style of play too with his pace and dribbling ability.

Can imagine there'd be some good songs for him too. "One for the Mane", "Mane on my Mind", and if Gerrard was still at the club, "Ste Works Hard for the Mane".

I've had a few beers, needless to say.

Kerrigooney

Harry Palmr wrote: »

One year left on his deal is the issue now, if enough clubs want him this summer then a decent price is possible if he stays after Sept 1st, then it'll be loose change in January. So he'll be sold and everyone else knows it.

Aye...I know...I was only joking(badly).

murpho999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

30m is the 15m of two years ago, its a surprise (or maybe not!) that so many still think in old money terms. The game's gone mad. It must have if Watford really did want 30m for Troy Deeney.

Also

I think the club could save itself a fortune by signing Southampton's scouts.

corwill

Kerrigooney wrote: »

We paid £15m for him and he's better now and if £30m is the new £15m then we should be asking for £50m.

OwaynOTT

30 million and we keep the beard.

And bestow it upon a worthy successor

J Mysterio

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Sakho still been left in Limbo by UEFA will effect the summers transfers I would imagine to buy or not to buy a CB to wait and see or buy just in case.

Its an absolute disgrace how long those sonsabitches are taking to come to a decision.

Kerrigooney

OwaynOTT wrote: »

30 million and we keep the beard.

And bestow it upon a worthy successor

Could get messy...why do the beards always have to suffer?

OwaynOTT

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Could get messy...why do the beards always have to suffer?

Ok, 25 million and the beard goes but we keep the Allen?

Kerrigooney

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Ok, 25 million and the beard goes but we keep the Allen?

Much better.

OwaynOTT

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Much better.

But he has to grow mutton chops, bah

martyos121

OwaynOTT wrote: »

But he has to grow mutton chops, bah

Wouldn't that make him the most desired man in Wales though?

Glico Man

martyos121 wrote: »

Wouldn't that make him the most desired man in Wales though?

Only if he is wearing a cagoule and carrying a coracle.

~Rebel~

Would be quite happy with Mane. Doesn't quite have the consistency yet, but when he's 'on' he's great.

Loan out Ibe, have Mane and Markovic as our speedy winger types, with Ojo as backup, and i'd be happy with those choices. Firmino, Coutinho and Lallana as the more number 10 types, then Sturridge, Origi and Ings as the centre forwards. Still always the risk with Sturbridge, but we wouldn't be quite as susceptible with how Origi has developed. Would be pretty satisfied with selecting any 3 from those 5 first team support players, and 1 from those 3 strikers. Decent depth, but still enough opportunities for all i think.

As far as our scouts and the whole southampton issue, apparently we scouted Mane pretty thoroughly the summer Southampton moved for him, but we decided not to bite for whatever reason.

J Mysterio

Liverpool votes in!

Good jobs lads.

daithijjj

hefferboi wrote: »

He did. Just because, at the time, it was popular to say he was ****, doesn't mean he was actually ****. When he missed that sitter against Everton everyone went to town on him saying he was ****e. Watch that match back, he was one of our best players that day.

Nah, he was actually sh1te for 100 games. It was put to me he had many 'exceptional' games and i was talking nonsense. Thats fine, point them out and we can find archives of the game ratings people say he was exceptional in.

5starpool

I know the Euro will fall too, but not as much as Sterling in the short term. It'll remove some of the premier leagues money advantage anyhow over the rest of Europe, and make transfer fees and wages higher in the short-medium term before the inevitable recovery. I don't think it'll affect EU players any time soon in terms of work permits though, I'd imagine if there is a deal it will still require free movement of workers to the UK.

What a stupid country though.

Harry Palmr

5starpool wrote: »

I know the Euro will fall too, but not as much as Sterling in the short term. It'll remove some of the premier leagues money advantage anyhow over the rest of Europe, and make transfer fees and wages higher in the short-medium term before the inevitable recovery. I don't think it'll affect EU players any time soon in terms of work permits though, I'd imagine if there is a deal it will still require free movement of workers to the UK.

What a stupid country though.

Sterling has been in crisis for some time now! :pac:

The long term impact on the British football market is open to question, could be a return to the days of Nobby, George, Bill, Alan, Dicky and Hugh in long shorts.

Agent Coulson

OwaynOTT wrote: »

But he has to grow mutton chops, bah

martyos121 wrote: »

Wouldn't that make him the most desired man in Wales though?

Glico Man wrote: »

Only if he is wearing a cagoule and carrying a coracle.

There is a Welsh sheep joke in there somewhere.

Boom_Bap

Mane = Power + Pace + Aggression.
We miss the latter in our team. But he's not a player is going to dictate a game, that is what we are sorely missing unless Henderson gets some groove.

Turtyturd

Anyone else want a list of the 100 games he was sh!te for, and his ratings?

5starpool

Ya, I remember being really annoyed at Joe Allen pretty much any time he played in his first couple of season (although he started ok). The last couple he has generally been better athough not available a lot through injury. I'd like to keep him as a squad player, but I don't think he is good enough or reliable enough to be an expected starter when fit. I don't want to sell him for 10m though as we will not get anyone as good for that money unless we are lucky or good at picking up a relatively obscure talent, which is something we are generally not great at.

corwill

Turtyturd wrote: »

Anyone else want a list of the 100 games he was sh!te for, and his ratings?

Given he's had a total of 90 league appearances for us, I'd be intrigued to see it.

OwaynOTT

Are we getting Mane to replace Joe Allen's beard?

Knex*

Wonder will the ol Brexit thing effect the PL spending this summer.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Knex. wrote: »

Wonder will the ol Brexit thing effect the PL spending this summer.

Transfers from Eurozone countries already 9% dearer so I imagine it will have a major effect.

Harry Palmr

Not really, Prem clubs have seen their income jump by far more than 9% and if you consider the "Prem Proven" rule adds at least 50% to a player of comparable quality from the Eurozone then it still makes sense to shop overseas if you're after a player from one of the Continental leagues

Buford T. Justice XIX

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Not really, Prem clubs have seen their income jump by far more than 9% and if you consider the "Prem Proven" rule adds at least 50% to a player of comparable quality from the Eurozone then it still makes sense to shop overseas if you're after a player from one of the Continental leagues

True but seeing as most transfers are in staged payments, previous transfers will also have become dearer too.

Also, sale values to Eurozone countries has risen by the same amount so it makes transfers out of the PL more attractive for players and purchasing clubs.

Harry Palmr

True but I don't think the values changes are big enough to make or break many deals, one thing that could be important in the medium-long term is that it'll become harder to bring in youth players from abroad as work permits become as awkward for EU players as non EU players so locally trained players will become sought after. There are lads in the U16 team who will be worth a fortune!

Kerrigooney

Turtyturd wrote: »

Anyone else want a list of the 100 games he was sh!te for, and his ratings?

Yes. Could you get to work on that seeing as you're offering...

Francie Barrett

It really doesn't look like we've learned our lesson with regard to Southampton.

8-10

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It really doesn't look like we've learned our lesson with regard to Southampton.

I'm happy with Lallana, Clyne and Lovren in the squad....not sure what the issue is with them?

Hollister11

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It really doesn't look like we've learned our lesson with regard to Southampton.

Lovern - Back to his best
Lallana - Starter for sure
Clyne - England's best left back

Lambert - Didn't work out


What's your issue ?

If anything the recent signings NOT from southampton have been our downfall.
Balotelli, Markovic, Moreno....

8-10

Hollister11 wrote: »

Clyne - England's best left back

That's a bit much, he's not even their first choice right-back!

Hollister11

8-10 wrote: »

That's a bit much, he's not even their first choice right-back!

Hahah you know what i mean...

Harry Palmr

Sane will be our Wil-I-Am or Raheem Sterling