Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016, Mod Warning in OP, 10/7

MonkeyTennis

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Anyone suggest a good bar to watch the Europa League final in next week with fellow Liverpool Heads in Dublin?

Sinnots is a good spot.

gafferino

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Anyone suggest a good bar to watch the Europa League final in next week with fellow Liverpool Heads in Dublin?

Yeah theres a place called the GPO and if.... :P

The Trinity bar on Dame st is the place to go. Irishkop or one of the supporters groups have made it their own and place full of banners etc. Good craic on match day.

Fitz*

still not recovered from Thursday night! probably the best game I've been at atmosphere wise.

Really want to watch it back now, took me a while to figure out who scored the third!

corwill

FitzShane wrote: »

still not recovered from Thursday night! probably the best game I've been at atmosphere wise.

Really want to watch it back now, took me a while to figure out who scored the third!

I watched it half-cut in a bar in Malaga, whooping and cheering, despite being one of only two in the place paying attention. The other was a non-local "neutral", who didn't enjoy it one bit, studiously avoided eye contact with me, and left in a huff at full time! Added to the fun.

~Rebel~

Grayditch wrote: »

Jose Enrique appears to be one of the least ambitious footballers I've ever seen.

Turtyturd wrote: »

Harsh on Enrique. Solid under Kenny and initially under 'The Rodgers' then got frozen out by him.

Absolutely no issue with him seeing out his contract. Maybe he'll reunite with Pacheco for some underwear wrestling.

Indeed, particularly when you consider that it looks like he never recovered from those knee injuries. He's just not the player he was, any deal he'd have been offered would have been a fraction of what he's on.

Can't blame him for sacrificing playing at a much lower level in favor of seeing out his contract in the reserves and securing his family's future.

mosstin

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Indeed, particularly when you consider that it looks like he never recovered from those knee injuries. He's just not the player he was, any deal he'd have been offered would have been a fraction of what he's on.

Can't blame him for sacrificing playing at a much lower level in favor of seeing out his contract in the reserves and securing his family's future.

Meh. His persona in the past 3-4 years really got on my tits. Happy with the idea of being a footballer without ever actually playing like one.
Dozens of playrs, many higher profile than him and many with far worse injuries made it back at the highest level. I'd question his desire to ever get back to the required level.
The last few times I've seen him in a red jersey he's been phoning it in. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

54and56

mosstin wrote: »

Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.

I love the way we're all YNWA when it suits us but when a player gets injured playing for us and doesn't recover sufficiently from those injuries to play at the 1st team level some 'supporters' slate him for not trying and are glad to see the back of him.

It's a pretty shallow way to think.

Hollister11

West ham to bid 25m for benteke

NukaCola

Dont hold a grudge against Enrique, its probably mostly perception with him with the selfies on holidays while he's out injured and raking in his contracted wage......it just doesn't look good, and will never go down well........

As for we're only YNWA when it suits I'd say I'm like that, maybe not all the time, but just because we sing YNWA doesn't mean all players/managers are deserving of it..........a player of high quality giving his all will endear himself to the fans whereas a lazy/poor player will not, its human nature lets be honest......some players we are happy to see go and others we are not.......I mean I'm sure Mignolet is a grand decent bloke, I hate when he plays for us though, we all have our favourites and players we dont rate, to say different is a lie.......

Hollister11

Hollister11 wrote: »

West ham to bid 25m for benteke

Thai batt?

NukaCola

Hollister11 wrote: »

West ham to bid 25m for benteke

Fantastic deal for us......i rate Benteke but he's broken for us...

Kerrigooney

Hollister11 wrote: »

West ham to bid 25m for benteke

SELL SELL SELL

Fowler87

FitzShane wrote: »

still not recovered from Thursday night! probably the best game I've been at atmosphere wise.

Really want to watch it back now, took me a while to figure out who scored the third!

Ditto. Was my first game in awhile and first European match at Anfield. Being in the Kop on a night like that is pretty special. Bit disappointed I missed out on team arrival due to mental matchday traffic on route to the stadium. Great night. Let's hope we finish job now Wednesday week.

Agent Coulson

West Ham are going big time Charlies next season with signings would be my guess.

I saw today they are now the biggest season ticket club in London with 58k season tickets sold for next season it leaves only behind utd.

£25m for Benteke is better than I thought we would get so I'd bite the hand off any club offering that.

Harry Palmr

I thought they were after some Ligue Un/Une (male/female?) hot shot?

edit Batshuayi is who I was thinking of.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

West Ham are going big time Charlies next season with signings would be my guess.

I saw today they are now the biggest season ticket club in London with 58k season tickets sold for next season it leaves only behind utd.

£25m for Benteke is better than I thought we would get so I'd bite the hand off any club offering that.

They are paying a small fee on their stadium too. They should spend big alright. 58k season tickets is huge. What's the capacity?

Harry Palmr

60K

Agent Coulson

RoboKlopp wrote: »

They are paying a small fee on their stadium too. They should spend big alright. 58k season tickets is huge. What's the capacity?

That should have been 50k hit the 8 instead of the 0.

West Ham have sold all of their season tickets for next season, when they move to the Olympic Stadium in east London.

The club says it will have more than 50,000 season ticket holders at the 60,000-capacity stadium, which was used at the London 2012 Olympics.

It's 60k seater.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36245311

OwaynOTT

Id rather sell benteke abroad, as you know he's guaranteedmy score against us. He's doubly so. He always played well against us and he'll now have the former player voodoo going for him.

8-10

RoboKlopp wrote: »

They are paying a small fee on their stadium too.

The whole thing is it's not their stadium. They won't even have to pay for the corner flags. They pay £2.5m rent per season for 25 games and £100,000 for each additional game over that number. Peanuts.

Impressive.

8-10

8-10 wrote: »

The whole thing is it's not their stadium. They won't even have to pay for the corner flags. They pay £2.5m rent per season for 25 games and £100,000 for each additional game over that number. Peanuts.

Yeah that's what I meant. Small loan fee.

Shrewd business.

Do they plan to ever own it I wonder?

5starpool

Benteke and Carroll would both score hatricks against us playing for West Ham.

Harry Palmr

5starpool wrote: »

Benteke and Carroll would both score hatricks against us playing for West Ham.

The good news is that if they are together it's only a 6 point forfeit at worst!

54and56

NukaCola wrote: »

Dont hold a grudge against Enrique, its probably mostly perception with him with the selfies on holidays while he's out injured and raking in his contracted wage......it just doesn't look good, and will never go down well........

As for we're only YNWA when it suits I'd say I'm like that, maybe not all the time, but just because we sing YNWA doesn't mean all players/managers are deserving of it..........a player of high quality giving his all will endear himself to the fans whereas a lazy/poor player will not, its human nature lets be honest......some players we are happy to see go and others we are not.......I mean I'm sure Mignolet is a grand decent bloke, I hate when he plays for us though, we all have our favourites and players we dont rate, to say different is a lie.......

No issue with this at all. YNWA should be reciprocal. Player works hard in training and tries his absolute best whenever asked to play he should be supported by the club and it's fans regardless of whether the club over paid for him or not.

A player who doesn't train hard and can't be ar$ed putting the effort in when on the pitch (I'm thinking of you Mario!!) does not deserve the support of the club or its fans but a player whose career at the top level has effectively been ended by injuries playing for us is an entirely different story and Enrique falls into that category. No doubt pictures of him with his GF having a whale of a time in Dubai whilst "injured" aren't the smartest PR move in the world but in fairness if he's given the time off and had the money what would any of us be doing?

:-)

K-9

NukaCola wrote: »

Dont hold a grudge against Enrique, its probably mostly perception with him with the selfies on holidays while he's out injured and raking in his contracted wage......it just doesn't look good, and will never go down well........

As for we're only YNWA when it suits I'd say I'm like that, maybe not all the time, but just because we sing YNWA doesn't mean all players/managers are deserving of it..........a player of high quality giving his all will endear himself to the fans whereas a lazy/poor player will not, its human nature lets be honest......some players we are happy to see go and others we are not.......I mean I'm sure Mignolet is a grand decent bloke, I hate when he plays for us though, we all have our favourites and players we dont rate, to say different is a lie.......

Others moved on to get more game time, some giving up lucrative contracts.

mosstin

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

No issue with this at all. YNWA should be reciprocal. Player works hard in training and tries his absolute best whenever asked to play he should be supported by the club and it's fans regardless of whether the club over paid for him or not.

A player who doesn't train hard and can't be ar$ed putting the effort in when on the pitch (I'm thinking of you Mario!!) does not deserve the support of the club or its fans but a player whose career at the top level has effectively been ended by injuries playing for us is an entirely different story and Enrique falls into that category. No doubt pictures of him with his GF having a whale of a time in Dubai whilst "injured" aren't the smartest PR move in the world but in fairness if he's given the time off and had the money what would any of us be doing?

54and56

K-9 wrote: »

Others moved on to get more game time, some giving up lucrative contracts.

He can play all the game he likes now. I can't see any reason why a player should financially lose out if he's injured playing for us.

Are you seriously suggesting the right thing for a player to do is to cut short his contract to move to a club on lower wages where he might get more games (or might be injured again a week later) in addition to the fact that aged 30 if his knees weren't knackered he'd easily pick up a 3 year gig on solid wages given he'd be a free transfer (Glen Johnson to Stoke being the perfect example) but the injury he got playing for us will prevent that from happening. Double whammy!!

larrymiller

Does anyone know if we're on tv on Sunday?
Also the barca match?

Charlie19

larrymiller wrote: »

Does anyone know if we're on tv on Sunday?
Also the barca match?

I'd say Barca will be on TV, aren't they always.

Probably just streaming for the West Bromwich game.

murpho999

Myself a few others want to go to an Anfield league match next season. Does membership give you a reasonable chance of getting you tickets or do they sell out fast?

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/DominicKing_DM/status/729786388854493184

Jordan Henderson been given the go-ahead to step up his recovery today after positive meetings; remains on target for Euro 2016

5starpool

murpho999 wrote: »

Myself a few others want to go to an Anfield league match next season. Does membership give you a reasonable chance of getting you tickets or do they sell out fast?

Yes they sell out fast. It is quite the frustrating experience, especially when starting from zero credits.

5starpool

Lucas won player of the year tonight in the club awards. I don't know how the voting works. I'm sure it'll annoy a few here.

Agent Coulson

The Boss.

mosstin

5starpool wrote: »

Lucas won player of the year tonight in the club awards. I don't know how the voting works. I'm sure it'll annoy a few here.

In a year in which few stood out, Firmino for me. Well done Lucas though. Great servant.

Knex*

Clyne for me.

Played over 50 games. Every one a 7 out of 10.

Steve Finnan 2.0.

martyos121

Has to be Enrique surely, the lad hasn't had a bad game for us this year.

J Mysterio

I vote for Firmino. Honourable mentions for Origi, Allen, Kolo and Clyne.

Turtyturd

5starpool wrote: »

Lucas won player of the year tonight in the club awards. I don't know how the voting works. I'm sure it'll annoy a few here.

Only one person seems to have a problem with him, he'd probably claim Sturridge helped him win it. But he's on vacation though so it should be safe to give Lucas his dues.

Would have went with Can myself, I remember posters on here questioning how he got a game for the club when he had a few off games during the season but I think the games he's missed and his immense return shows what he brings to the team. Honourable mentions to Clyne and Firmino.

RugbyLover123

J Mysterio wrote: »

I vote for Firmino. Honourable mentions for Origi, Allen, Kolo and Clyne.

You would really have Origi, Allen & Kolo ahead of Can for POTY?

ardinn

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

You would really have Origi, Allen & Kolo ahead of Can for POTY?

Can has been good "recently" but not all year!

RugbyLover123

ardinn wrote: »

Can has been good "recently" but not all year!

And Origi, Allen and Toure have been good all season? Can has been a lot more consistent over the course of the season then the others. Kolo has been, but has not played anywhere near enough to be in the running.

~Rebel~

Yeah, i'd have to go for Can too.

How much he's progressed this season is incredible. From a guy we really weren't sure could handle centre mid, to being the first name on the team sheet.

If someone else had been consistently good, maybe he wouldn't get it...but his progression to being an absolutely key player, and a massive onfield personality to spur things on, gives him the edge over others.

Sakho would have been up there but for the recent shenanigans. Otherwise, I just don't even think there's any competition, aside from Clyne who has just been terrifically consistent. Can's bit of "specialness" gives him the edge for me though.

ardinn

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

And Origi, Allen and Toure have been good all season?

Never said that!!

Clyne is the only standout performer for me!

dogbert27

Can and Milner have done good together recently and even Milner looks captain material.

Jordan Henderson sticks out now like a sore thumb on both counts.

I would not want Can or Milner replaced by Henderson. To be honest I was hoping he'd still be out for the EL final but apparently is declaring himself ready to return.

garra

dogbert27 wrote: »

Can and Milner have done good together recently and even Milner looks captain material.

Jordan Henderson sticks out now like a sore thumb on both counts.

I would not want Can or Milner replaced by Henderson. To be honest I was hoping he'd still be out for the EL final but apparently is declaring himself ready to return.

Club captain suggests he might be available to play a European cup final for the club, but you were hoping he would still be injured and unavailable? Worst fans in the world

DrumSteve

5starpool wrote: »

Lucas won player of the year tonight in the club awards. I don't know how the voting works. I'm sure it'll annoy a few here.

I'm happy for Lucas. Someone I'd consider to be a great servant to the club and by all accounts a decent chap.

Iused2likebusts

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'm happy for Lucas. Someone I'd consider to be a great servant to the club and by all accounts a decent chap.

Agree with that but don't understand how he could even be in contention for poty. Never mind winning it.

K-9

5starpool wrote: »

Lucas won player of the year tonight in the club awards. I don't know how the voting works. I'm sure it'll annoy a few here.

Sturridge gets my vote, or Allen or Toure.

Seriously, Clyne probably the most consistent.