Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016, Mod Warning in OP, 10/7

Harry Palmr

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

It's unfortunate ings missed most of the season alright.

Very unfortunate. He wasn't the only one tho,was he?

Kerrigooney

Christ,Harry....is that lifesize?

Harry Palmr

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Christ,Harry....is that lifesize?

Sorry, it's about time boards.ie had automatic picture sizing feature, if est1982 and RAWK can manage it.....

Guy:Incognito

Milkers wrote: »

Foster & Allen?

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Amateur :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2aeRg_yMSE

Umaro

Playing devils advocate here... how would you guys feel if we didn't sign any attacking players this summer?

We finish the window with Karius, Matip, Grujic, a new LB and a new midfielder for the pivot.

Would fixing the defense be enough to put us back in the Top 4? I feel like conceding 10 less goals over the course of a season would have us back in the mix.

Harry Palmr

Pivot? Single or double?!

Agent Coulson

Matip can play as a defensive midfielder so maybe that's where he will play.

Sakho and Lovren were getting a good partnership going before UEFA split them up there is no need to split them up if UEFA backtrack on Sakho.

mormank

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What I don't get is why we sign players, pay big money to do so , then act surprised that they don't fit the system we play. Benteke is example as is Balotelli .
It's like Man United a club who want to play passing exciting football, they have now appointed 3 non football playing managers in a row WTF . 1-0 to Man U . Get used to it.
I don't understand the logic of it.

It's simple really. Due to the wild successes of Fergie Man Utd were very late to the modern football reality, which is that most teams now just want to win at all costs. They were spoilt for so long that they could demand to play pretty football whilst winning. Now that haven't tasted success in so long, and in a utd fan's eyes a season or two without success has become a long time, they are willing to sell their souls to have the success back. Hence Jose's appointment.

mormank

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Christ,Harry....is that lifesize?

What is this, a stadium for ants?!?! The stadium will have to be at least 2 or 3 times bigger than that..... :P

OwaynOTT

Now pivot
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To pivot
Pivot good
When a good time turns around
You must pivot
You will never live it down
Unless you pivot
No one gets away
Until they pivot
I say pivot
Pivot good
I say pivot
Pivot good
Double pivot
Give the man a slip
When a problem comes along
You must pivot
Before the team sits back too long
You must double pivot
When something's goin' wrong
You must pivot
Now pivot
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To pivot
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To pivot
Well, Double pivot


Devo - Pivot lyrics

Harry Palmr

Devo's favoured formation.

Agent Coulson

Celtic trying to buy Wisdom for £3m and have had a loan bud for Gomez rejected

5starpool

I have this vacuum of football. At least the Euros will provide a distraction for a few weeks.

J Mysterio

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Saw that a few days ago alright. He's more of a "10" type than a winger though,isn't he?

Goes to show how much of an impression he made last time when I can't really remember where he played

If I recall, he didnt get a fair chance, ala Markovic.

Kerrigooney

J Mysterio wrote: »

If I recall, he didnt get a fair chance, ala Markovic.

Yep,probably a bit of that too.

monkey9

Christ, i forgot all about Markovic. Is there any chat about him? Like is there talk of him leaving or getting a chance this season?

If they see fit to sell him, fine. But i would like to see him given a chance, see what he can do in a Klopp side.

It'll be interesting to see what happens him alright.

OwaynOTT

Reckon Lazar could do a decent job for us next season.

Donnielighto

Hey Guys, I know some of you like the draft games, doing a tournament if anyone's interested.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057606351

5starpool

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Reckon Lazar could do a decent job for us next season.

I would be surprised to see him at the club next season, but who knows.

TitianGerm

5starpool wrote: »

I would be surprised to see him at the club next season, but who knows.

He deserves a chance to prove himself playing in his proper position.

It was also said that he was very homesick so having another Serbian in the squad might help (Gruijic)

5starpool

If Klopp thinks him worthy of keeping around, I'm quite ok with that. If he decides to get rid of him, I'm also grand with that and won't mind. I agree that he didn't get much of a run in his preferred position under Rodgers though.

5starpool

Here's another lad we're definitely signing. No doubt about it at all.

http://www.90min.com/posts/3299559-liverpool-close-to-securing-signing-of-mexican-international-hector-herrera?a_aid=35396

Harry Palmr

Porto midfielder Hector Herrera linked via Fox Sport in Mexico (he's Mexican, has Liverpool had one in the side before?) Know nothing about him, other than what the usual profile sites say - box to box goal scoring player who is sadly rather ugly with sticky out ears which seems to go against current policy.

edit - bah! :mad:

edit edit http://www.beinsports.com/us/serie-a/news/porto-star-hector-herrera-heading-to-napoli/273710

The deal should be complete within two weeks time, pending Napoli's sale of Gonzalo Higuain to Liverpool which should go through very soon.

However, other reports coming from Mexico state that Herrera is actually closest to Liverpool and not Napoli.

Umaro

Umaro wrote: »

Playing devils advocate here... how would you guys feel if we didn't sign any attacking players this summer?

We finish the window with Karius, Matip, Grujic, a new LB and a new midfielder for the pivot...........

Once the new midfielder goes on to be a deserved starter, a clear upgrade on Henderson & the current Can.

Perhaps another CM won't be coming in, hard to gauge how good Grujić is but I imagine he'll be expecting gametime. Hard to see him and Can being a midfield 2 at their age but you never know.

Of course if Benteke is sold I would expect another striker to come in.

I'd like to see us play two strikers in a good few PL games next season, if that's the plan we have enough in midfield with Henderson, Can, Grujić, Allen/Lucas, Milner, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino and Markovic along with the lads coming through.
"Enough" mightn't cut the mustard against the top PL teams but without European competition we will likely struggle to attract a real upgrade on what we have.

martyos121

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Porto midfielder Hector Herrera linked via Fox Sport in Mexico (he's Mexican, has Liverpool had one in the side before?) Know nothing about him, other than what the usual profile sites say - box to box goal scoring player who is sadly rather ugly with sticky out ears which seems to go against current policy.

edit - bah! :mad:

edit edit http://www.beinsports.com/us/serie-a/news/porto-star-hector-herrera-heading-to-napoli/273710

Haha it's like a double transfer pisstake! He goes to Napoli once we get Higuain. Does Pogba then sign for Porto to fill that void?

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Porto midfielder Hector Herrera linked via Fox Sport in Mexico (he's Mexican, has Liverpool had one in the side before?) Know nothing about him, other than what the usual profile sites say - box to box goal scoring player who is sadly rather ugly with sticky out ears which seems to go against current policy.

edit - bah! :mad:

edit edit http://www.beinsports.com/us/serie-a/news/porto-star-hector-herrera-heading-to-napoli/273710

Honestly that Porto team this past season have been playing excellent stuff. I think they should have been closer to winning the league with the quality they have. Just a little too much inexperience. Would be happy enough with us looking at Herrera or Neves and Brahimi and the terrifically named Andre Andre also look decent - but the former 2 are ones to bid on

Harry Palmr

The Fox journalist is Vladimir Garcia (really, Vladimir) and he says on his own twitter

Héctor Herrera is a step away from leaving Porto to Liverpool (Pachuca has 30% of his rights)

Pachuca is the Mexican club he signed from.

Looking through his time line, he looks like the sort of chap that would know what was going on with a player in the national side.

martyos121

8-10 wrote: »

Honestly that Porto team this past season have been playing excellent stuff. I think they should have been closer to winning the league with the quality they have. Just a little too much inexperience. Would be happy enough with us looking at Herrera or Neves and Brahimi and the terrifically named Andre Andre also look decent - but the former 2 are ones to bid on

Neves hasn't pushed on as much as expected this past season, regressed if anything. Porto won't cash in on him until he becomes a proven, quality player so that could be a while yet, the lad is still extremely young tbf.
Brahimi is way too expensive for what he is IMO, Andre Andre is the one from that side I'd be most interested in.

Wouldn't it be great to have a midfield of: Andre Andre Allen

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Fox journalist is Vladimir Garcia (really, Vladimir) and he says on his own twitter

Pachuca is the Mexican club he signed from.

Looking through his time line, he looks like the sort of chap that would know what was going on with a player in the national side.

Also talk on twitter that Napoli are in for him.

Unfortunately indykalia says he's close to signing for us so that means it's unlikely

Harry Palmr

8-10 wrote: »

Also talk on twitter that Napoli are in for him.

Unfortunately indykalia says he's close to signing for us so that means it's unlikely

:pac:

I was just on the big Porto message board

Vi também num tweet, que costuma estar mais ou menos bem informado quanto a transferências no futebol inglês, que o Herrera estaria próximo de assinar pelo liverpool.

I also saw in a tweet, which tends to be more or less well informed about transfers in English football, that Herrera would be around to sign for liverpool.

The internet never forgets http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/04/13/3034848/pachuca-starlet-hector-herrera-admits-to-meeting-liverpool&sa=U&ved=0

Liverpool target Hector Herrera has admitted he met an Anfield scout and that he is now ready to move to a bigger club

5starpool

It'll be grand once we sign Higuain.

Kerrigooney

Yeah...Fuck summer.

corwill

Hector Herrera says he's delighted to be on the verge of signing for LFC:

Agent Coulson

Well at least he's not 19 and one for the future:) .

Oh.....Wait doesn't that mean we won't sign him/

~Rebel~

corwill wrote: »

Hector Herrera says he's delighted to be on the verge of signing for LFC

He's apparently also on the cusp of joining Napoli though :-/

https://www.beinsports.com/us/serie-a/news/porto-star-hector-herrera-heading-to-napoli/273710

Though that same article says the Napoli move is pending the sale of Higuain to us, so, y'know, silver linings

Aint nobody going' nowhere till the fat lady leans on something at Melwood.

BorneTobyWilde

http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2016/06/06/5755d16922601ded578b4653.html

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2016/06/06/5755d16922601ded578b4653.html

With a bit of luck that'll wind up and all-out bidding war.

8-10

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

With a bit of luck that'll wind up and all-out bidding war.

With a bit of luck they'll all f*ck off

Umaro

Klopp pictured next to Nicolas Higuain (Gonzalo's brother and agent) at the Argentina v Chile game last night.

Looks like they're trying to drum up some interest and get him a move during the summer. Not to us obviously, but it'll be a great signing for someone. 38 goals in 42 games for Napoli this season.

joe123

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Porto midfielder Hector Herrera linked via Fox Sport in Mexico (he's Mexican, has Liverpool had one in the side before?) Know nothing about him, other than what the usual profile sites say - box to box goal scoring player who is sadly rather ugly with sticky out ears which seems to go against current policy.

edit - bah! :mad:

edit edit http://www.beinsports.com/us/serie-a/news/porto-star-hector-herrera-heading-to-napoli/273710

Haha I love how they randomly throw in the bit about Higuain to Liverpool in the middle of that like its not really that important :pac:

Until people are leaning on a wall at Melwood its all a load of nonsense!

Sappy404

I'd love to believe the Higuain stuff but I just can't let myself. We have no shortage of strikers and he'd cost a fortune for his age. Also, I'm not 100% convinced that's Higuain's brother in the pictures.

Harry Palmr

The Echo have just said there is no interest in Higuain.

ricero

We will probaly end up with shane long instead

murpho999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Echo have just said there is no interest in Higuain.

I've noticed a lot of 'downplaying' articles on the Echo lately. Stuff like saying targets can expect to be missed, 'Why we don't need Vardy' etc.

Asuming a lot of this info is coming from the club, I wonder if this is an FSG manage expectations exercise as they probably plan on spending very little.

BullBlackNova

Liverpool Echo say it was Marc Klopp that Jurgen was sitting with.

Also links today to Leeds full-back Charlie Taylor and Nuri Sahin.

The links won't go away the next few weeks but chances are the deals will subside. Anyone at the Euros or the Copa America is likely to not be discussing moves so it rules out a huge segment of the players we are linked with. That said, if you believe the links to date, we'll have close to a completely new XI next season...

Karius
Clyne / Matip / Lovren / Hector (with Guerreiro, Chilwell and Taylor backing him up!)
Hector Herrera / Zielinski
Gotze / Firmino / Mane
Higuain

Title in the bag ...

I f*cking hate this time of year. Roll on Friday.

Harry Palmr

murpho999 wrote: »

I've noticed a lot of 'downplaying' articles on the Echo lately. Stuff like saying targets can expect to be missed, 'Why we don't need Vardy' etc.

Asuming a lot of this info is coming from the club, I wonder if this is an FSG manage expectations exercise as they probably plan on spending very little.

I think they've just decided to be pro-active and snuff out stupid links if that is what they are. Klopp himself joked about the names being linked just before a game in May, he clearly knew who he was after and laughed at what the media/click-bait sites came up with.

Mr.H

ricero wrote: »

We will probaly end up with shane long instead

Id swap Mario and Benteke for Long and Mane

ricero

murpho999 wrote: »

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Echo have just said there is no interest in Higuain.

I've noticed a lot of 'downplaying' articles on the Echo lately. Stuff like saying targets can expect to be missed, 'Why we don't need Vardy' etc.

Asuming a lot of this info is coming from the club, I wonder if this is an FSG manage expectations exercise as they probably plan on spending very little.

Just makes no sense for FSG to bring in a world class manager like klopp and not back him with the cash for quality in the summer transfer window. It must be clear to them by now that the team is lacking quality