Census.

The Backwards Man

Jesus people, my great grandfather filled this thing in 1911 with no light or running water or Internet for asking silly questions.

No bother to him.

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The Backwards Man wrote: »

Jesus people, my great grandfather filled this thing in 1911 with no light or running water or Internet for asking silly questions.

No bother to him.

But the difference was that he was able to read the questions and think for himself.
A trait that seems to have been lost as we have evolved.

darkpagandeath

What's with the yes and no questions, It should be assumed no and you have to say yes. Pointless.. I don't list in life what I don't suffer from that would be ridiculous.

The Randy Riverbeast

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Jesus people, my great grandfather filled this thing in 1911 with no light or running water or Internet for asking silly questions.

No bother to him.

But he suddenly became illiterate that year so would have had help.

flashforward

If you are a chartered accountant or a nurse who qualified as a SRN 'State registered Nurse' from the 70's/80's what do you put down your 'Highest level of education obtained to date'?

Leaving cert???
These people did not do a level 6/7/8/9 course so what do they put down?

YFlyer

Four of us in the house. Two of them got their mammy to fill it up at their parents home. Other is at her fathers house. So just me to fill it up here. Will do it tomorrow

CFlat

flashforward wrote: »

If you are a chartered accountant or a nurse who qualified as a SRN 'State registered Nurse' from the 70's/80's what do you put down your 'Highest level of education obtained to date'?

Leaving cert???
These people did not do a level 6/7/8/9 course so what do they put down?

Without delay, pop over to your neighbours house and let them figure it out!

hytrogen

The FIL just filled it out & had an absolute Canary when I put down 'Jedi' as my religion & scribbled it out, think I'll move out tomorrow...

hytrogen

hytrogen wrote: »

The FIL just filled it out & had an absolute Canary when I put down 'Jedi' as my religion & scribbled it out, think I'll move out tomorrow...

Are you a follower of a religion called Jedi though?
A practising follower?

If not, why not just put no religion on the form?

freshpopcorn

I live outside a small enough town and we always know the person doing the census. I was thinking that to myself if they were a nosy busy body couldn't they tell everybody all the information you filled out.
Having read it again I relies now I could nearly fill out the census for a lot of people living around me.

CFlat

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Jesus people, my great grandfather filled this thing in 1911 with no light or running water or Internet for asking silly questions.

No bother to him.

On the upside for your great grandfather TBM, there's two questions he didn't have to answer 1) Are you on mains electricity and 2)do you get water from well, mains or group water scheme.

Barlett

Filled it in there and put down Roman Catholic as my religion....what a time to be alive!

The_Valeyard

CFlat wrote: »

On the upside for your great grandfather TBM, there's two questions he didn't have to answer 1) Are you on mains electricity and 2)do you get water from well, mains or group water scheme.

1.Possibly are you storing weapons for a future rebellion
2. How many members of your household have we sent to Australia

CFlat

The_Valeyard wrote: »

1.Possibly are you storing weapons for a future rebellion
2. How many members of your household have we sent to Australia

3. If you have a job do you 1) walk to work, 2)cycle 3) take horse and cart or 4) get an old wheel off a bike, a stick and roll it to work.

The_Valeyard

CFlat wrote: »

3. If you have a job do you 1) walk to work, 2)cycle 3) take horse and cart or 4) get an old wheel off a bike, a stick and roll it to work.

5) how often have you been beaten by your local constabulary
6) how great is our current king 1. Amazing 2. Brilliant 3. Fantastic 4. Superb
7. How much money do you make:______ 1. Send it to us.

The_Valeyard

Barlett wrote: »

Filled it in there and put down Roman Catholic as my religion....what a time to be alive!

The gaggle of pitch fork atheists approach!

FizzleSticks

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The_Valeyard

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

More likely the man didn't get asked do you have an internet connection and faced with answering:

Yes, boadband connection
Yes, other connection
No

And left wondering what does a sh1tty mobile phone service come in under.

****ty = other ?

Broken Hearted Road

CFlat wrote: »

On the upside for your great grandfather TBM, there's two questions he didn't have to answer 1) Are you on mains electricity and 2)do you get water from well, mains or group water scheme.

More likely the man didn't get asked do you have an internet connection and faced with answering:

Yes, boadband connection
Yes, other connection
No

And left wondering what does a sh1tty mobile phone service come in under.

Broken Hearted Road

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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Question 25 was straight forward and we marked the box down by 3. It's question 26 we are stuck on. What is the main field of study of the highest qualification you have completed to date. (Exclude secondary school qualifications).

Or this one,
What time do you leave for work???

Well, seeing as I work shifts, a different time everyday. Which isn't an option!

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Name: I don't even know
Sex: maybe

The_Valeyard

bubblypop wrote: »

Or this one,
What time do you leave for work???

Well, seeing as I work shifts, a different time everyday. Which isn't an option!

It's for the criminals. Need to know when your house is free so they can go to work.

CFlat

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Name: I don't even know
Sex: maybe

Are you drunk again Lexie?

PandaPoo

French_Girl wrote: »

You think if I owned the house I would have asked that question?

We own our house and have a vague idea of when it was built. Only moved here two years ago so should probably remember! No idea where any of the paperwork is either.
Just took a guess

Broken Hearted Road

bubblypop wrote: »

Or this one,
What time do you leave for work???
Well, seeing as I work shifts, a different time everyday. Which isn't an option!

I don't think the census cater's very well for long term unemployed people. I was filling in the form tonight for 3 of us. One is unemployed for a few years. He did a FAS course since and worked abroad for a bit but hasn't actually worked here in Ireland at what he did at FAS. So question 30, what is your occupation. They expect unemployed people to fill this too. So I suppose, what you usually do if you were in employment. So do I put down a job he had many years ago.

GT_TDI_150

My missus filled out our form few weeks back, she also filled out her parent one and her uncles one ( gluten for punichment), so ive no idea of the exact questions on the form BUT those with temporary overseas visitors .... why are ye drawing extra work upon yourselves? Surely u just leave them off the form ie nothing to see here kinda job?!?


My brkther the cheeky fecker went home for the weekend so my parents had to add him on their form

hytrogen

bubblypop wrote:

Are you a follower of a religion called Jedi though? A practising follower?
If not, why not just put no religion on the form?

Good question, While I may not be a practising Jedi as some may expect, I see it as the closest comparable order that comes in line with my philosophical perspective on life and our beautiful universe.
Nor was the gesture an act of revolt or atheism, just a passive comment to pigeonhole my beliefs as a silly little form wanted.

hytrogen

Broken Hearted Road wrote:

I don't think the census cater's very well for long term unemployed people. I was filling in the form tonight for 3 of us. One is unemployed for a few years. He did a FAS course since and worked abroad for a bit but hasn't actually worked here in Ireland at what he did at FAS. So question 30, what is your occupation. They expect unemployed people to fill this too. So I suppose, what you usually do if you were in employment. So do I put down a job he had many years ago.

Fill in the option for employed / unemployed / student & then skip the last part for place & address of employment / school etc.

The Raptor

There's no 'i don't know' option. Do i tick roman catholic because i celebrate Christmas. Except for last Christmas where i skipped it and had less hassle from family. I didn't even have a tree. What am I?

Noo

The Raptor wrote: »

There's no 'i don't know' option. Do i tick roman catholic because i celebrate Christmas. Except for last Christmas where i skipped it and had less hassle from family. I didn't even have a tree. What am I?

Are you a practising catholic? Do you go to church, pray etc.? When you say you celebrate christmas do you celebrate the birth of christ religiously or do you just celebrate the tradition of being around friends and family?

When you say you skipped Christmas last year, stll you still celebrate christ in your own way and go to church etc.? Do you celebrate any other religious festivals in a religious manner?

Do you actually believe in god?

If i was back in ireland i would be answering no religion. I enjoy the festivities at christmas for their tradition of the season rather than religious side and would go to church out of duty for a funeral or wedding. But i do not practice any religion or believe in god.

The Raptor

Noo wrote: »

Are you a practising catholic? Do you go to church, pray etc.? When you say you celebrate christmas do you celebrate the birth of christ religiously or do you just celebrate the tradition of being around friends and family?

When you say you skipped Christmas last year, stll you still celebrate christ in your own way and go to church etc.? Do you celebrate any other religious festivals in a religious manner?

Do you actually believe in god?

If i was back in ireland i would be answering no religion. I enjoy the festivities at christmas for their tradition of the season rather than religious side and would go to church out of duty for a funeral or wedding. But i do not practice any religion or believe in god.

Yes, sounds like me. No religion

Speedwell

I work from home. What time do I go to work and how long does it take me to get there? Right. I just put down my daily start time and "0". They'll figure it out. In the meantime, my husband asked, "I'm your husband OR wife?" Right, dude, look here where I marked the box for "male". "No religion" for both of us was easy, though if there was a box for "take all that useless ****e and shove it back up your arse where it came from", he would probably check that. I would probably content myself with "thumbing my nose at the Presbyterian Church and daring them to come get me back".

Adyx

gordongekko wrote: »

so there is no reason for the forms not to be put into the letterbox

No she asked me a couple of questions when she delivered it. (How many people in the house etc). It's not like they can just assume there's only one household per house.

.300 WinMag

The homeless people are required to fill this out right??!! WTF is wrong with the country, 54 million spent on this census I think I read somewhere, Holy **** how many housing units would that buy?, priorities are really arseways in this government, and have always been, If I were one of these poor homeless people, Id refuse to fill it in, screw the law, it only serves to make the rich richer anyway.

freshpopcorn

.300 WinMag wrote: »

The homeless people are required to fill this out right??!! WTF is wrong with the country, 54 million spent on this census I think I read somewhere, Holy **** how many housing units would that buy?, priorities are really arseways in this government, and have always been, If I were one of these poor homeless people, Id refuse to fill it in, screw the law, it only serves to make the rich richer anyway.

If the government cancelled the census because of the homeless this time five years down the line they'd end up cancelling it because of something else and we'd never end up with a census being complete.

Into The Blue

L1011 wrote: »

Next time around, allegedly. If you believe the Indo, which isn't the best idea.

Believing the indo? Or online census?

stoneill

forgot to fill it out last night.

namloc1980

.300 WinMag wrote: »

The homeless people are required to fill this out right??!! WTF is wrong with the country, 54 million spent on this census I think I read somewhere, Holy **** how many housing units would that buy?, priorities are really arseways in this government, and have always been, If I were one of these poor homeless people, Id refuse to fill it in, screw the law, it only serves to make the rich richer anyway.

Really hate this argument. Apart from the fact that the Government has very little to do with the Census, what you're saying is basically unless money is spent on housing then it shouldn't be spent.

murpho999

.300 WinMag wrote: »

The homeless people are required to fill this out right??!! WTF is wrong with the country, 54 million spent on this census I think I read somewhere, Holy **** how many housing units would that buy?, priorities are really arseways in this government, and have always been, If I were one of these poor homeless people, Id refuse to fill it in, screw the law, it only serves to make the rich richer anyway.

Why does all normal society norms have to stop becuase of this perceived homlessness crisis.

You do realise that even if people had buildings them that the people on the streets would most likely still be there due to other problems they face?

Speedwell

The homeless have to be counted because otherwise they don't count. No money for social services will be allotted to their assistance if they can't be shown to be part of the population. What social assistance is available won't be concentrated in the areas of greatest need if the numbers of homeless in each location aren't known. The census is the one single best way homeless people can link their existence to a location and have it taken seriously by public policy.

mariaalice

The what time do you usually leave for work had me scratching my head. I work shift and have 4 different start times, so have 4 different times I leave for work.

L1011

Into The Blue wrote: »

Believing the indo? Or online census?

Believing the Indo. Almost as bad as the Mail now.

suicide_circus

mariaalice wrote: »

The what time do you usually leave for work had me scratching my head. I work shift and have 4 different start times, so have 4 different times I leave for work.

Yes there really should be a box for shift workers leaving home at various times of the day.

sadie06

The issue of religious identification in this census (and the 'tick no religion' campaign in the build up to it) has really annoyed me. I strongly feel that the church should have no connection to schools, and that the issue surrounding school admissions should be faced head on and resolved as quickly as possible. I could not, however, tick 'no religion' despite the many articles I read telling me I absolutely had to.

I am not merely a cultural Catholic, but I also do not attend mass every week. We do not pray together as a family and my children are not indoctrinated to a degree where we could be called very religious.

We attend mass about once a month and at Easter and Christmas. We love the milestone events such as Communions and Confirmation. I had a church wedding, and will have a church funeral in the future. I have a strong connection to choral music and find nothing more uplifting than a mass with a nice choir and beautiful hymns. I am happy with this level of engagement both for myself and my children.

Why should I tick 'No religion'? It is not my fault that there is no extra question to determine the strength of my faith or the frequency with which I attend mass. If there had been a distinguishing question, I would have answered it.

Discourse in the build up to this census made it feel like the future education of non-Catholic children lay in the hands of people like me. That is unfair. I have been as honest as I can be, given the choices on the form.

TL;DR: If à la carte Catholic had been an option, I would have chosen it.

intheclouds

sadie06 wrote: »

TL;DR: If à la carte Catholic had been an option, I would have chosen it.

So you are not a Catholic by the Catholic Churches standards?

mariaalice

I could make a reasonable attempt at an Irish conversation, so what to say about speaking Irish is difficult.

sadie06

intheclouds wrote: »

So you are not a Catholic by the Catholic Churches standards?

Despite you putting this forward as an accusation, that is exactly what I am saying. There is no :'Catholic, but not by the Catholic Church's Standards' box though. There is only 'No religion'.

I was baptised, made my first Holy Communion, was confirmed, married in a church. I attend (and enjoy) mass once a month and for major feast days. I attend religious Choral events. I pray quietly, but not ritualistically with my family.

Given all of the above, do you really think I should have ticked 'No Religion'.

GLaDOS

sadie06 wrote: »

The issue of religious identification in this census (and the 'tick no religion' campaign in the build up to it) has really annoyed me. I strongly feel that the church should have no connection to schools, and that the issue surrounding school admissions should be faced head on and resolved as quickly as possible. I could not, however, tick 'no religion' despite the many articles I read telling me I absolutely had to.

I am not merely a cultural Catholic, but I also do not attend mass every week. We do not pray together as a family and my children are not indoctrinated to a degree where we could be called very religious.

We attend mass about once a month and at Easter and Christmas. We love the milestone events such as Communions and Confirmation. I had a church wedding, and will have a church funeral in the future. I have a strong connection to choral music and find nothing more uplifting than a mass with a nice choir and beautiful hymns. I am happy with this level of engagement both for myself and my children.

Why should I tick 'No religion'? It is not my fault that there is no extra question to determine the strength of my faith or the frequency with which I attend mass. If there had been a distinguishing question, I would have answered it.

Discourse in the build up to this census made it feel like the future education of non-Catholic children lay in the hands of people like me. That is unfair. I have been as honest as I can be, given the choices on the form.

TL;DR: If à la carte Catholic had been an option, I would have chosen it.

If you feel you are a Catholic that's fine, you're being honest by ticking Catholic. While I take some issue with the tone of the "tick no" campaign, ultimately it's purpose is to get people to actually think about their faith, instead of ticking Catholic automatically. It seems like you have done that so I don't think anyone reasonable could take any issue with your decision.

keano_afc

sadie06 wrote: »

The issue of religious identification in this census (and the 'tick no religion' campaign in the build up to it) has really annoyed me. I strongly feel that the church should have no connection to schools, and that the issue surrounding school admissions should be faced head on and resolved as quickly as possible. I could not, however, tick 'no religion' despite the many articles I read telling me I absolutely had to.

I am not merely a cultural Catholic, but I also do not attend mass every week. We do not pray together as a family and my children are not indoctrinated to a degree where we could be called very religious.

We attend mass about once a month and at Easter and Christmas. We love the milestone events such as Communions and Confirmation. I had a church wedding, and will have a church funeral in the future. I have a strong connection to choral music and find nothing more uplifting than a mass with a nice choir and beautiful hymns. I am happy with this level of engagement both for myself and my children.

Why should I tick 'No religion'? It is not my fault that there is no extra question to determine the strength of my faith or the frequency with which I attend mass. If there had been a distinguishing question, I would have answered it.

Discourse in the build up to this census made it feel like the future education of non-Catholic children lay in the hands of people like me. That is unfair. I have been as honest as I can be, given the choices on the form.

TL;DR: If à la carte Catholic had been an option, I would have chosen it.

Some of the bullsh*t telling people what to tick in this section was almost criminal. I saw one particularly nasty image saying "If you voted YES (the Yes was in rainbow colours indicating they referring to the marriage referendum) then you must vote No!" Its bullying, pure and simple.