walther ppq .22

Cass

hexosan wrote: »

About €1,800 new. Harbour guns are selling one for a member at the moment

Sweet Jesus. I've seen a few for sale and not one has been over the €1,200 mark.

hermes2011 wrote: »

,.... haven't seen a second hand one on offer for ages

A mate showed me an advert in Feb or March edition of ISD. It was a gun shop in Cork or Kerry (somewhere down south) and they had a S&W 41 for sale for €550.

Another mate bought his from the North. Paid £550 for it.


I know they are dear compared to most other pistols and even in the states they are classed as dear, but nearly 2 grand. Not a hope i'd pay it. I'd sooner go for a second hand Feinwerkbau.

hexosan

Cass wrote: »

Sweet Jesus. I've seen a few for sale and not one has been over the €1,200 mark.

A mate showed me an advert in Feb or March edition of ISD. It was a gun shop in Cork or Kerry (somewhere down south) and they had a S&W 41 for sale for €550.

Another mate bought his from the North. Paid £550 for it.


I know they are dear compared to most other pistols and even in the states they are classed as dear, but nearly 2 grand. Not a hope i'd pay it. I'd sooner go for a second hand Feinwerkbau.

Not disputing the second hand price but that's what I was quoted when I went nosing around for a price on a new one. I've seen a few second hand on egun for around the €500 mark.

Cass

Same as that. Not arguing with anyone, but nearly 2K for one. I've seen them and lads i know have bought them for the prices i said above. the price of €1,800 is nearly twice anything i've seen or heard.

Wadi14

hermes2011 wrote: »

found the ruger a bit off a job to take a part and put back together s&w 41great pistol my fav would be a browning medalist gold line but you cant get them any more buckmark is great for the money. hammerli great but mags and that are very dear

€25 for a X-esse mag I wouldn't call that very dear ? Def not a good reason not to buy a very good pistol

goz83

I'm now leaning between the s&w 41 and the hammerli xesse. I prefer the style of the 41, but if the price is that much higher, I would go with the xesse. I want to buy new, but won't be doing anything for a while yet.

Brasros

It doesn't take long to get used to taking the ruger apart, after a couple of times it very quick and easy.

Brasros

goz83 wrote:

I'm now leaning between the s&w 41 and the hammerli xesse. I prefer the style of the 41, but if the price is that much higher, I would go with the xesse. I want to buy new, but won't be doing anything for a while yet.

goz83 wrote:

Yeah, that's a bit more than I would like to spend on one alright, considering I would want an extra couple of mags too. I want to get something new and around the 1k mark when I am ready to buy.

Ruger mklll go for around that, the 22/45 a little cheaper.

goz83

Brasros wrote: »

Ruger mklll go for around that, the 22/45 a little cheaper.

I really dislike the ruger pistols. I prefer something with edges and some chunkiness. My favourite pistol visually is 1911. I know they suck as target pistols, so I want something with a good balance of both. I would probably get both if it weren't for the PITA system we have with licenses here.

The difference in styling is night and day.

Luckysasha

Just came across a YouTube review of the ruger sr22. Looks like a good pice of kit and very favourable review.

goz83

Luckysasha wrote: »

Just came across a YouTube review of the ruger sr22. Looks like a good pice of kit and very favourable review.

That's a bit more like it. Not bad.

Luckysasha

I will order two so !!!!!!!!!!!!

Brasros

Luckysasha wrote:

I will order two so !!!!!!!!!!!!

3.5" barrel will be a problem, unsure if they have long barrels, I don't think they will be out shooting the other pistols mentioned, I agree with sparks, shoot other people pistols till your sure.

goz83

Luckysasha wrote: »

I will order two so !!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I only have 2 hands. What are you going to shoot? :pac:

BattleCorp

goz83 wrote: »

I really dislike the ruger pistols. I prefer something with edges and some chunkiness. My favourite pistol visually is 1911. I know they suck as target pistols, so I want something with a good balance of both. I would probably get both if it weren't for the PITA system we have with licenses here.

The difference in styling is night and day.

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I think this isn't an ugly looking Ruger.

Luckysasha

Brasros wrote: »

3.5" barrel will be a problem, unsure if they have long barrels, I don't think they will be out shooting the other pistols mentioned, I agree with sparks, shoot other people pistols till your sure.

Just looking at rugers website the SR-22 model 3620 comes with a 4 1/2" barrel. Is there a max barrel length allowed under licensing laws

Brasros

Luckysasha wrote:

Just looking at rugers website the SR-22 model 3620 comes with a 4 1/2" barrel. Is there a max barrel length allowed under licensing laws

I may be wrong but I think it's minimum of 5" barrel.

Luckysasha

Cheers. What about sourcing a couple of 5 round mags. Ruger don't have them listed on their site. Can you modify the standard 10 round that comes with the gun

BattleCorp

Luckysasha wrote: »

Just looking at rugers website the SR-22 model 3620 comes with a 4 1/2" barrel. Is there a max barrel length allowed under licensing laws

Brasros wrote: »

I may be wrong but I think it's minimum of 5" barrel.

S.I. 391 of 2015 cleared up the confusion regarding barrel length. It pretty much says that any .22lr pistol with a mag capacity of no more than 5 rounds is pretty much good to go (non legal description there).

BattleCorp

Luckysasha wrote: »

Cheers. What about sourcing a couple of 5 round mags. Ruger don't have them listed on their site. Can you modify the standard 10 round that comes with the gun

Usually you need a letter from a gun dealer to prove that the mags have been altered to only take five rounds but yes, it's no problem modifying magazines to only accept 5 rounds.

Luckysasha

That's a lot handier than trying to source 5 round mags then. At least some of our licensing laws make some degree of sense.
Just out of curiosity if I where to approach a RFD about buying this gun are they likely to try and talk me out of it and try and push what they want to sell you. As in brands they are familiar with distributors they like to deal with etc etc.

Brasros

Luckysasha wrote:

That's a lot handier than trying to source 5 round mags then. At least some of our licensing laws make some degree of sense. Just out of curiosity if I where to approach a RFD about buying this gun are they likely to try and talk me out of it and try and push what they want to sell you. As in brands they are familiar with distributors they like to deal with etc etc.

I think the hard part is to get RFD to agree to import a single pistol from the states, it could cost up to and above 300 dollars with licence's and transport costs, but if you were willing to pay for it I can't see a reason.

BattleCorp

Luckysasha wrote: »

That's a lot handier than trying to source 5 round mags then. At least some of our licensing laws make some degree of sense.
Just out of curiosity if I where to approach a RFD about buying this gun are they likely to try and talk me out of it and try and push what they want to sell you. As in brands they are familiar with distributors they like to deal with etc etc.

I find dealers will always recommend stuff that they want to shift but if you know what you want, then stick to your guns (pardon the pun).

Don't pick a gun according to a pic on the internet. Get a feel for the gun, try it out etc. I must have tried 20 different models before I bought my pistol. I think I was a member of the range for three months before I picked a pistol.

BattleCorp

Luckysasha wrote: »

Just looking at rugers website the SR-22 model 3620 comes with a 4 1/2" barrel. Is there a max barrel length allowed under licensing laws

That pistol looks very very small in this pic.

goz83

BattleCorp wrote: »

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I think this isn't an ugly looking Ruger.

Not bad, though it kind of reminds me of a space gun I had when I was small.

BattleCorp wrote: »

That pistol looks very very small in this pic.

Wow, that is small.









Maybe something like this





couldn't resist

BattleCorp

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Are you ....... ahem ..... overcompensating for something?

Luckysasha

Has courtlough much of a selection of pistols goz ?

goz83

Luckysasha wrote: »

Has courtlough much of a selection of pistols goz ?

I only seen the walther and the hammerli. I noticed a beretta box there too. They had maybe a dozen or more pistols boxed. I hadn't got more than a couple of minutes before I had to leave, but I will check em out on Monday when I visit again.

Grizzly 45

goz83 wrote: »

I really dislike the ruger pistols. I prefer something with edges and some chunkiness. My favourite pistol visually is 1911. I know they suck as target pistols, so I want something with a good balance of both. I would probably get both if it weren't for the PITA system we have with licenses here.

The difference in styling is night and day.

Was going to go for a GSG/Sig Sauer 1911.22,but decided to go for a Ruger mk2 @250 euros in the end.
Simply because of;

1]Reliability..The GSG/Sig 1911s while they have come along alot are still abit funincky on ammo and stripping issues.[Who wants to use an allen key to take a 1911 design apart?] And the Ruger is a proven design that goes BANG! 99% of the time.

2] Cost to get one in here from the EU is now pishing on the wrong side of 500 euros plus shipping. The new RugersMk4 are absolutely STUPID money both here and abroad.Somthing like 1500 euros here!

4]Tuningand accessory bits..A whole industry for the Ruger pistols,and still not much for the GSG/SIG,even though its touted to be able to accept 90% of the full size 1911 parts.
So if you wanted a good compromise of a 1911 and a Ruger,they say the Ruger mk45 is the way to go,although I personally find it an ugly gun and wasnt too impressed with its handling myself.Feels way to light and the sights look tinny.

BattleCorp

goz83 wrote: »

I only seen the walther and the hammerli. I noticed a beretta box there too. They had maybe a dozen or more pistols boxed. I hadn't got more than a couple of minutes before I had to leave, but I will check em out on Monday when I visit again.

Goz, try Harbour House on a Saturday. There are usually two gun dealers there, Harbour Guns and Gunshop.ie. They'd have a decent selection of pistols plus most lads in the club would have no problem showing you their pistols.

Luckysasha

Very hard to find any dealers listing pistols for sale on their websites. Plenty of shotguns , rifles and air rifles. It's like a secret society!!!!!!!