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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread
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chrislad wrote:Best of luck to each of you as you undertake this massive..errr....undertaking!
There will be sweat, blisters, aches, pains, good days, bad days, and in between days. Listen to nop, he has a wealth of experience, along with his cohorts this year. Whether you do the marathon in your goal time, or not, you'll still have done a marathon. If you have to drop out due to injury or illness, take your learnings with you. There's the Clonakilty, Limerick, and Cork marathons next year too (I may see some of you for the Limerick one!)
I'm going to keep one eye on the thread, but this is your year, novices! Enjoy it, it's your achievement!
Took the words right out of my mouth! Couldn't have said it better myself. All the best to each of you novices. It's going to be a wonderful, crazy, painful time but you're going to love it! I'll be following your progress and cheering you on the entire way. I also hope to meet you guys at the DCM race series along the way.
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Weekly Update:
I missed Tuesday and Wednesday this week due to work so had to cram everything in between Thursday and Sunday. I was volunteering at HOTW on Sat, had to leave Portlaoise before 6am to get to Kilkee and didn't get home until near 6pm so I was too shattered to run Sat evening so I ended up doing two runs on Sunday to make up for it.
Legs actually felt good and strong, my second run on Sunday was fast, about 30 seconds off my PB for a 5K which I only got last week, I had already ran 6.5 miles that morning so I was very pleased with that. That's the end of any fast runs for the next 18 weeks, time to start the plan now, looking forward to a rest day tomorrow before it all kicks off! Good luck to all
Mon: Rest
Tues: Rest
Wed: Rest
Thurs: 8 Miles LSR
Friday: 3.1 Miles Recovery
Sat: Rest (Kind of!)
Sun: 6.5 Miles Easy and 3.1 Miles Fast with a half a mile warm down.
Total Mileage for the week was 21.4 Miles0 -
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paddydriver wrote: »So here we go.. Won't update for last week as it was a bit haphazard. Took nop's advice and tried to get PB's out of the way and went for it in Marley Park Run yesterday and got near 2 mins off my time last week.. Very happy with sub 23mins and would have been happy with sub 24min TBH. Only my 2nd Park Run so was working out etiquette last week and this time around I was straight out of the blocks and making up ground. Think I know my Max HR now too...:eek:
A weekend of kids Mini WC soccer with setup etc, managing England U9's (no jokes..) and screaming at Ireland today.
The Park Run took it out of me and legs and feet are aching so decided to miss LSR this weekend - plan has not started officially yet so I figured now was time to use my pass!
Gonna go with the Boards Modified plan but please can anyone tell me what the target time range is for this plan? Nop had initially suggested HHN1 for me but looking at Boards plan I think I can maybe do it.
Enjoy the trip! Best of Luck Everyone!
If anyone on here does runs in Deer Park or Marley Park, or near by and wants to meet up for some runs or even if a group of us are interested in meeting then message me.. would be great to meet up.
Hello paddydriver - good job on the parkrun. Glad you got it out of the system!
For the Boards plan - there's a decent amount of mileage in it. You need to be reasonably sure you'll be able to do it. The target time is (as with everything) dependent on you and your planned goal time. From re-reading your original post, I think you should conservatively aim for something around the 4h30 mark -> PMP of 10:18 min/mi. Add at least 45 sec to that to arrive at your easy pace.
I recall a Novices LSR meet-up in the Phoenix Park from last year. Maybe once the plan settles in, we can organize something like that again.0 -
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Antodoran136 wrote: »Yeh I'm planning for 3.45 but gonna be tough it's a full time job training for it enjoying it though just the long runs are tough enough only so much music you can listen to .
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Unfortunately I have to do my long runs on Mondays as I always work on weekends, both days. I'd like to do the 10mi race on 20th Aug (that's going to be my very first race, just to see what it is like, before the marathon), which is on a Saturday. So on that week (Boards plan), I'd have 10mi on Monday, then 10mi on Saturday the race itself, then 17mi on the following day (Monday). Any advice, what should I do...? Skip the 17mi lsr and this way have a long gap and a big jump between the next long run which is going to be 19mi? Or maybe do 7 more miles after the race so this way I basically just move my 17mi lsr two days back? 0
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Unfortunately I have to do my long runs on Mondays as I always work on weekends, both days. I'd like to do the 10mi race on 20th Aug (that's going to be my very first race, just to see what it is like, before the marathon), which is on a Saturday. So on that week (Boards plan), I'd have 10mi on Monday, then 10mi on Saturday the race itself, then 17mi on the following day (Monday). Any advice, what should I do...? Skip the 17mi lsr and this way have a long gap and a big jump between the next long run which is going to be 19mi? Or maybe do 7 more miles after the race so this way I basically just move my 17mi lsr two days back?
As the songs goes.....One day at a time, Sweet Jesus.....or in running terms Crawl, Walk, Run. I suggest you concentrate on getting up and going on your plan and deal with each week as it comes for the next 5/6 weeks. Just getting the runs done and dealing with the initial build up and any teething problems should be where you focus during this period. Early August is the time to start looking at what tweaks might needed to be done to facilitate the FD10. Your progress between now and then will better allow us advise you on the best option for you.0 -
Unfortunately I have to do my long runs on Mondays as I always work on weekends, both days. I'd like to do the 10mi race on 20th Aug (that's going to be my very first race, just to see what it is like, before the marathon), which is on a Saturday. So on that week (Boards plan), I'd have 10mi on Monday, then 10mi on Saturday the race itself, then 17mi on the following day (Monday). Any advice, what should I do...? Skip the 17mi lsr and this way have a long gap and a big jump between the next long run which is going to be 19mi? Or maybe do 7 more miles after the race so this way I basically just move my 17mi lsr two days back?
Hi Szilvike,
If you do all your LSRs on Mondays, I would suggest you consider the Monday of Week 2 the end of your Week 1. And the Monday of Week 3 the end of your Week 2. That way, you can follow mostly the same program, it's just shifted a few days. Is that what you're planning to do?
That way, the week of Aug 15 will start with the LSR from the week before (14M), and I would shift one of the easy mid-week runs in that week, to after the FD10. Definitely don't do 17M the day after a 10M race.
In other words, the week of FD10 will see your 14M LSR, mid-week runs (skip one easy run), and FD10. The week after, do a decent recovery run on Sunday if possible, follow the normal mid-week stuff, and do your 17M LSR on the Monday after, like "normal".
Does this make sense? You will want to bring in the LSRs a few days come October, but we'll discuss that closer to the time 0 -
Good luck to everybdy starting their DCM plans this week. A few words of encouragement: Before January this year I had never run longer than 8 miles. Yesterday after following the HH Novice 2 plan I completed the Waterford marathon in 3:58. The long hours of training, the doubts, the pain all worthwhile. It can be done! Full race report to follow.
Stairs are a major problem today
Great result, Babaracus, great achievement in five months, well done, thanks for the encouragement which should help all of us Novices.0 -
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Hi all,
Best of luck with the training ahead.
Mileage Update
Sun 19th June 3miles
Mon 11 miles
Tues 3 miles (very slow as day after lsr)
Wed/Thurs rest
Fri 5mile
Sat 10 miles (to get use to running lsr on Sat am)
Sun 26th June 3 miles (very slow post last)
Delighted with my mileage as best week yet!!!!
Starting Boards plan with five days running (as last week was a bit excessive as missed my lsr due to Irish Runner 5 mile earlier in June so was playing catch up so strange week as once off!)
Just tried to update the Tracker Mileage as my plan is starting tomorrow, but iPad won't let me, do you need to be on a PC?
Thanks!
Best of luck with the Boards Plan. As a general rule catch up is not a good idea. There will be times over the next 18 weeks that life gets in the way and you will have to make calls to miss some runs. If this happens then when its gone its gone. If you start playing catch you will create a knock on effect that could have a much bigger impact that missing one or two runs.....IMHO 0 -
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Unfortunately I have to do my long runs on Mondays as I always work on weekends, both days. I'd like to do the 10mi race on 20th Aug (that's going to be my very first race, just to see what it is like, before the marathon), which is on a Saturday. So on that week (Boards plan), I'd have 10mi on Monday, then 10mi on Saturday the race itself, then 17mi on the following day (Monday). Any advice, what should I do...? Skip the 17mi lsr and this way have a long gap and a big jump between the next long run which is going to be 19mi? Or maybe do 7 more miles after the race so this way I basically just move my 17mi lsr two days back?
Hi Szilvike, I notice in the milage tracker spreadsheet you've already done your 8m SLR for week one of the boards plan today. Would it help if you did your LSR on the Monday so it's at the end of the running week so each week of your plan starts on a Tuesday and ends on a Monday e.g for boards plan wk 1 would be something like:
Tue: 3m Easy
Wed: rest,cross, 3m rec
Thur: PMP
Fri 3m easy
Sat: rest, cross. rev
Sun: rest,cross, rec
Mon: 8m LSR.
and so on for subsequent weeks.
For the FD 10 miler then you would then be running it on the Sat instead of two days later on the monday i.e. LSR day (and on that Monday you could run a rec or easy run) and would be doing the 17m lsr on the following Monday i.e. 9 days after the FD 10M race.
Anyway just wondering if this might work better for you. Apologies if it doesn't help at all :-)0 -
As the songs goes.....One day at a time, Sweet Jesus.....or in running terms Crawl, Walk, Run. I suggest you concentrate on getting up and going on your plan and deal with each week as it comes for the next 5/6 weeks. Just getting the runs done and dealing with the initial build up and any teething problems should be where you focus during this period. Early August is the time to start looking at what tweaks might needed to be done to facilitate the FD10. Your progress between now and then will better allow us advise you on the best option for you.
You're probably right FBOT01 and I shouldn't worry so soon. It's just that I like to have everything planned ahead But will come back with my question then when we're getting closer to the race day! 0 -
+1 - you beat me to it nop. just posted the same suggestion.Hi Szilvike,
If you do all your LSRs on Mondays, I would suggest you consider the Monday of Week 2 the end of your Week 1. And the Monday of Week 3 the end of your Week 2. That way, you can follow mostly the same program, it's just shifted a few days. Is that what you're planning to do?
That way, the week of Aug 15 will start with the LSR from the week before (14M), and I would shift one of the easy mid-week runs in that week, to after the FD10. Definitely don't do 17M the day after a 10M race.
In other words, the week of FD10 will see your 14M LSR, mid-week runs (skip one easy run), and FD10. The week after, do a decent recovery run on Sunday if possible, follow the normal mid-week stuff, and do your 17M LSR on the Monday after, like "normal".
Does this make sense? You will want to bring in the LSRs a few days come October, but we'll discuss that closer to the time0 -
Best of luck with the Boards Plan. As a general rule catch up is not a good idea. There will be times over the next 18 weeks that life gets in the way and you will have to make calls to miss some runs. If this happens then when its gone its gone. If you start playing catch you will create a knock on effect that could have a much bigger impact that missing one or two runs.....IMHO
Ah thanks FBOT01, don't worry last week was a once off, starting tomorrow I will be following the Boards plan religiously......have deleted those two words..'catch what??? '....From my memory0 -
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