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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread
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Hey,
Do you have a recent HM or 10 mile time? Train for what you are capable of doing from these rather than a dream time.
Online calculator will give training paces and would be a better indicator from a longer mileage race rather than 5km.
Does that help?
McMillian or Jack Daniels can calculate all paces.
Got it, I'll stick with what I'm doing now so
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KillianByrne wrote: »Pfft! Don't listen Scot. Km's are grand, wait till you get the marathon done because then you can move on to triathlon where you not only get to run in km's, but you can swim and cycle in them too...
oh you're in trouble now Killian! 0 -
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I wasn't going to bother with this, as I don't plan to be as active this year in the thread as I was last year, as I don't want to get in the way of the real novices!
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
I'm started back with the C25K in about Feb 2014, so just over 2 years ago. Before that, I was very inactive, and hadn't done any sport or real exercise in close to 17 years (I was only 31 when I went back so that's slightly embarrassing!)
5k 25:56 Dec 2015 Birdhill Turkey Run
10 k 53:18 May 2016 Limerck (Technically, a six mile, and I wasn't racing full tilt either, so this is a soft PB. I don't do a lot of 10k races, normally did half marathons last year)
Half M 2:03:29 Sept 2015 Dublin
Full M 4:46:30 Oct 2015 Dublin
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
My fitness is quite decent, I think. I had a quiet start to the year, and barely did enough to tip over in Jan/Feb. Back to basics for the month of March in order to get my base back up before DCM training. Up to about 28 miles a week running now.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
My aim last year was 4:30. I had a tough last 8 miles and was thereabout until then. My aim this year is still the 4:30.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I'm currently doing 5 days a week, and wont' be changing this downwards. I might throw in the odd recovery run if I feel okay after any long runs.
Why are you running this marathon?
Because I forgot how painful it was?
Chrislad! It feels odd to welcome you to the Novices 2016 thread since you were already an established Novice of 2015 when I joined (or at least that's how I seem to remember it).
What plan are you following? I think your routine is perfect for the boards plan, and I also think you have enough miles in the legs already to follow it.
Are you planning to come up for this year's HM? I recall writing a "preview" saying that the Upper Glen Road isn't as bad as its rep - and you telling me "you lied!!". (I still don't think it deserves that reputation!)
You have a wealth of experience with last years events (DCHM and the main event). Do hang around and share your experience of this years training with us!0 -
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Just as A said, endless. Having just ran Rotterdam a month ago I know from my training I honestly never at one point did not want to go out for a run. I looked forward to every run in the plan with vigor, I did miss runs obviously but through real life not the want to not go out and run. I was tired at times yes, but the goal at the end and running a marathon always conquered that tiredness. You will procrastinate but if you truly want to run DCM you will get up off your backside and run.
It's a wonderful experience training and running a marathon, enjoy it, it will dominate everyday from now till October but embrace that and use it in a positive way in progressing in your training. To be honest I'm dead jealous of you all.
Well said tang, it's a fantastic experience that will dominate your life for the coming months - commit to it and that will get you through the hard runs, the good outweighs the bad, I'm also more than a little jealous of you all too 0 -
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Chrislad! It feels odd to welcome you to the Novices 2016 thread since you were already an established Novice of 2015 when I joined (or at least that's how I seem to remember it).
What plan are you following? I think your routine is perfect for the boards plan, and I also think you have enough miles in the legs already to follow it.
Are you planning to come up for this year's HM? I recall writing a "preview" saying that the Upper Glen Road isn't as bad as its rep - and you telling me "you lied!!". (I still don't think it deserves that reputation!)
You have a wealth of experience with last years events (DCHM and the main event). Do hang around and share your experience of this years training with us!
I'm following a modified Hal Higdon Intermediate 1 plan. I'm lucky enough to work with the winner of the Limerick Marathon this year, so he's giving it a once over, and making some adjustments. I've decided to try to kill myself before DCM this year, as the plan contains 4 20 mile runs. I will *not* be a nice person to be around when the plan ramps up for August and September!!!
I won't be up for the half marathon in September this year. My rather inconsiderate sister is getting married the day before, so I'll have to leave it. It's probably not as bad as it seems, but I got cramp, and I just wasn't going to push myself as it wasn't a target race last year. I will be up (probably, all going well) for the Rock 'n' Roll Half in August though.0 -
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Coffee Fulled Runner wrote: »Wait til you start tapering in the two weeks before the marathon
I've already survived that last year so it's all good for this year. I'll just get my bubble wrap pants out 0 -
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The Black Oil wrote: »I have thus far avoided checking Youtube for advice. Bit early for that craic. :pac: I'm wondering what barriers people feel they'll encounter in taking this on. For me it'll be my head, i.e. procrastination, apathy and laziness.
It's as much a mental challenge as it is a physical challenge it's all about positive mental attitude believing in yourself being realistic in your goals and having the strength to push through the doubts. The great thing about this thread is sharing your experience good and bad and learning from it. It's a roller coaster !! 0 -
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There seems to war raging about kilometers versus miles
I happen to speak both, and I find easy enough to get used to using either. I use both and it simply allows more folks to comment and give feedback. In my early days, I was making the classic novice mistake (guess what? indeed, running too fast), and it wasn't until I added mile-paces, that folks here picked up on it and pointed it out.
I would recommend the hardcore kilometer folks to get used to miles, simply because that's what the majority of the experienced folks speak, and, the day itself, the markers are in miles. Don't underestimate this. If you're not used to miles, it might be quite confrontational to be running along for about 10 minutes and then you see this sign: 1. Run another ten minutes: 2. You get the point
During one of the ridiculous long runs last year, I stumbled upon the same little trick that was already mentioned above - to convert km into miles:- Take the number of miles (e.g. 18)
- Add half the amount (+9 = 27)
- And a tenth of the amount (+1.8 = 28.8)
- Voila. Close enough.
Also, it gives you something to do during the long runs, especially now you try to run without music, right
When you look at the plans, you see many 3, 4, 5, 6M runs. For me, I just had the same little loop for each of the distances, so once I had them established, I was fine. Again, I wouldn't sweat the maths. 5km, 6.5km, 8km, 10km. It'll all balance in the end.
On a lighter note:
One of my (2) running heroes happens to be one of the moderators of this forum (an accomplished ultra-marathon runner). He keeps a really detailed log, which I highly recommend, especially for his race reports. Make yourself a nice cuppa, curl up on the sofa, and start reading here. I read all reports (and more) and learned so much, in terms of prep, pacing, mental toughness, etc.
In one of the reports he says:It seems to be easier to run 42 km rather than 26 miles, because it is less distance from one marker to the next one. It really does seem to make a difference.
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