Logical thinking about County Boundaries

kidneyfan

It is time for some logical thinking about County boundaries.
Gaway -- should end at the Eastern Border of Galway City all to the west of Galway airport should be moved into Mayo.
Leitrim -- needs to be split between Roscommon and Longford and abolished
Meath and Westmeath -- should be reintegrated into one county of Meath capital at Mullingar.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Any reason for this?

maudgonner

kidneyfan wrote: »

It is time for some logical thinking about County boundaries.
Gaway -- should end at the Eastern Border of Galway City all to the west of Galway airport should be moved into Mayo.

Well this makes no sense for a start. Galway airport is to the east of the city, so you've eliminated all of Galway? Unless you mean that only East Galway remains Galway, and everything else, including the city, gets moved into Mayo - which seems like a very strange idea.


And that's not to say your other ideas aren't strange

bear1

kidneyfan wrote: »

It is time for some logical thinking about County boundaries.
Gaway -- should end at the Eastern Border of Galway City all to the west of Galway airport should be moved into Mayo.
Leitrim -- needs to be split between Roscommon and Longford and abolished
Meath and Westmeath -- should be reintegrated into one county of Meath capital at Mullingar.

So you are suggesting the most populous county in Connacht and largest city also by completely shrunk down and most of it given to Mayo?
You do realise Galway airport is located to the East of Galway right?
Cause the way you phrased it makes no sense at all, to the East of Galway Airport should be Mayo and Galway county should end at the east of Galway..
HUH???

I think you need to logically re-think your opening post.

Abolish Mayo - give it to Galway and Sligo.

maudgonner

Is there a prize for most ironic thread title? 'Cause this should win

biko

Extend Louth down to the Liffey

mahoganygas

Fun fact: You can't drive from North Leitrim to South Leitrim without driving through another county.

mahoganygas

biko wrote: »

Extend Louth down to the Liffey

{Shudder}

VinLieger

Sure they only have 1 set of traffic lights in the entire county, thats how pointless they are

LizT

Why would you want to keep Longford?

smash

Well that was an unexpected poll. A welcomed one all the same!

CrabRevolution

We in Meath are happy to leave Westmeath well alone, ye can keep it.

If nothing else it serves to make Cork people jealous that we have a county Westmeath but they have no county Westcork.

kidneyfan

As regards the Airport in Galway -- this is an opening gambit. I will later compromise by agreeing that Galway city should remain in County Galway.

Regina Fierce Hardware wrote: »

Any reason for this?

Logic and reorganising the county boundaries. Occurred to me yesterday when driving through Leitrim, Roscommon, Sligo and then Leitrim again WTF? Then it turns out that there's only 30,000 people in Leitrim.

We need some logic here!

Cee-Jay-Cee

Dublin should be abolished and given to Northern Ireland along with Louth.

somefeen

All of Munster should be given over to Cork as a peace offering

stimpson

Galway should be seceded back to the Indians.





And Snickers should be changed back to Marathon.

NiallBoo

I like the idea of different boundaries but Not as you describe.

It would make a lot more sense to redefine boundaries around cities/large towns and other areas.

Eg. Athlone should be one county, extending throughout the region to include most of roscommon, west westmeath and south Longford.

Cavan/north longford/east leitrim/northwest meath another.

Say 10 regions in all

maudgonner

NiallBoo wrote: »

I like the idea of different boundaries but Not as you describe.

It would make a lot more sense to redefine boundaries around cities/large towns and other areas.

Eg. Athlone should be one county, extending throughout the region to include most of roscommon, west westmeath and south Longford.

Cavan/north longford/east leitrim/northwest meath another.

Say 10-15 regions in all

For the craic, can we name it Westwestmeath? And Northwestmeath could be the other one.

Kanye West would want to move there...actually maybe it's a bad idea.

ArmaniJeanss

Have the county boundaries ever been changed (since say independence) or are they effectively regarded as being fixed forever?
Kind of ironic seeing as they were a British idea and the British don't have a big problem changing their county boundaries every so often.

kneemos

Make them all square.

kidneyfan

The real problem is lakes and rivers. Could we do something about them?

klose

somefeen wrote: »

All of Munster should be given over to Cork as a peace offering

Feck off.

I for one would like to see north and south tipp separated, pretty much cause that shower voted Lowry back in is all. Odd bunch them northerners.

stoplooklisten

I bags the lucrative job of printing all the newly required headed notepaper

kidneyfan

klose wrote: »

Feck off.

I for one would like to see north and south tipp separated, pretty much cause that shower voted Lowry back in is all. Odd bunch them northerners.

Could Cork be moved to England? We'd all be happier.
(Irish , English and Corkish)

CrabRevolution

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Have the county boundaries ever been changed (since say independence) or are they effectively regarded as being fixed forever?
Kind of ironic seeing as they were a British idea and the British don't have a big problem changing their county boundaries every so often.

Bar splitting Dublin and merging Tipp, no major changes no. A few boundaries near towns changed but that's it.

Cool_CM

kidneyfan wrote: »

Leitrim -- needs to be split between Roscommon and Longford and abolished

Did you not get the score in Carrick on Shannon at the weekend?

NiallBoo

kidneyfan wrote: »

The real problem is lakes and rivers. Could we do something about them?

You just want to get rid of Cavan then?

kidneyfan

Cool_CM wrote: »

Did you not get the score in Carrick on Shannon at the weekend?

Carrick is lovely and would even nicer in Roscommon!

kidneyfan

NiallBoo wrote: »

You just want to get rid of Cavan then?

They mess up county boundaries.

mahoganygas

kidneyfan wrote: »

Carrick is lovely and would even nicer in Roscommon!

Controversial.

Skylinehead

VinLieger wrote: »

Sure they only have 1 set of traffic lights in the entire county, thats how pointless they are

Actually, we got rid of those

Too complicated.

maudgonner

Skylinehead wrote: »

Actually, we got rid of those

Too complicated.

I hear they're being replaced by a roundabout though?

mahoganygas

maudgonner wrote: »

I hear they're being replaced by a roundabout though?

Fancy!

kidneyfan

maudgonner wrote: »

I hear they're being replaced by a roundabout though?

Yes this is it:

this is the roundabout

Omackeral

There's a worrying amount of people who think that County Belfast is a thing.

NiallBoo

The weird thing is that peoples biggest objections to this would mostly be to do with the GAA

Omackeral

Omackeral wrote: »

There's a worrying amount of people who think that County Belfast is a thing.

Where?

kidneyfan

Deleted User wrote: »

Where?

Belfast obvs

armaghlad

biko wrote: »

Extend Louth down to the Liffey

Louth is already part of Armagh.. yous just haven't realised it

armaghlad

The county as an administrative unit was abolished in NI decades ago. If it had have been maintained, Armagh, Derry, Tyrone and Fermanagh; along with Belfast and Derry CCs would all be Nationalist controlled, thus giving nationalists control of NI overall on a local basis

Instead, they were all divided to up to create District and Borough Councils, 26 in number which were merged last year to create 11 "supercouncils". Supposedly this will save money although some of the new councils are already millions in debt. The phrase "if it's not broke don't fix it" comes to mind...

CrabRevolution

armaghlad wrote: »

The county as an administrative unit was abolished in NI decades ago. If it had have been maintained, Armagh, Derry, Tyrone and Fermanagh; along with Belfast and Derry CCs would all be Nationalist controlled, thus giving nationalists control of NI overall on a local basis

Instead, they were all divided to up to create District and Borough Councils, 26 in number which were merged last year to create 11 "supercouncils". Supposedly this will save money although some of the new councils are already millions in debt. The phrase "if it's not broke don't fix it" comes to mind...

I remember reading an article last year about the new councils. The Newry and Mourne district was being merged with the Down district. Naturally enough they needed some consultants and experts to think up a new name.

After spending £30'000, the council covering Newry and Mourne and Down was given the spanking new name of.....Newry and Mourne and Down!

beach_walker

NiallBoo wrote: »

The weird thing is that peoples biggest objections to this would mostly be to do with the GAA

Eh not really. See the objections to stuff like this in political constituencies "We need a Leitrim TD!" etc.


Sorry Leitrim people.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Leitrim is a beautiful county. I don't know why they're the butt of so many jokes around here.

maudgonner

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Leitrim is a beautiful county. I don't know why they're the butt of so many jokes around here.

Not just here, Leitrim is generally the butt of jokes. I blame Dustin on The Den.

It's just an easy target really, for no good reason. Leitrim is a lovely county, it even says so on the signs

Beara should be in Kerry. It's in the Kerry Diocese.

awec

armaghlad wrote: »

The county as an administrative unit was abolished in NI decades ago. If it had have been maintained, Armagh, Derry, Tyrone and Fermanagh; along with Belfast and Derry CCs would all be Nationalist controlled, thus giving nationalists control of NI overall on a local basis

Instead, they were all divided to up to create District and Borough Councils, 26 in number which were merged last year to create 11 "supercouncils". Supposedly this will save money although some of the new councils are already millions in debt. The phrase "if it's not broke don't fix it" comes to mind...

Damn right too, wouldn't want to be associated with the yokels from south Armagh.

In all seriousness I don't think county councils would make sense in NI any more. There is no way local issues in the very rural south Armagh are similar to the local issues in the much more urban north Armagh.

jamesbere

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Beara should be in Kerry. It's in the Kerry Diocese.

No it shouldn't, we'll never bow to kerry rule.

duchalla

Deleted User wrote: »

Beara should be in Kerry. It's in the Kerry Diocese.

As is much of the Milstreet Pastoral Area, so we should have that too....

http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish-map/

fergiesfolly

Mayo renamed NorthGalway and annexed into its superior southern neighbour.
Half of them live here.
The other half work here.
Makes sense.

armaghlad

CrabRevolution wrote: »

I remember reading an article last year about the new councils. The Newry and Mourne district was being merged with the Down district. Naturally enough they needed some consultants and experts to think up a new name.

After spending £30'000, the council covering Newry and Mourne and Down was given the spanking new name of.....Newry and Mourne and Down!

Shame on them! They refuse to acknowledge the Armagh territory that blesses their council area!