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Drive By Inspections

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  • 05-05-2016 9:39am
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    mirrorwall14
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    Does anyone know if there is a breakdown of how an incidental inspection should be run? Arrival time at the school, times that teacher gets told, cancelling class tests etc


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    oneright
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    we had one last week, the list of lesson went up at 9:20 and she attended class at 9:35.
    I think we were shafted on that one, but alas it all goes the same as it would anyway.


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    solerina
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    We had once in Feb. He arrived about 8.45. List went up on the board during first class, typical I got him second class...he went to 6 classes ( I think) and generally gave positive feedback to everyone.


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    aratsarse101
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    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if there is a breakdown of how an incidental inspection should be run? Arrival time at the school, times that teacher gets told, cancelling class tests etc

    What would you be cancelling a class test for?


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    SligoBrewer
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    aratsarse101 wrote: »
    What would you be cancelling a class test for?

    I had an incidental inspection and had to cancel a class test.


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    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    SligoBrewer wrote: »
    I had an incidental inspection and had to cancel a class test.

    This is why I was wondering was there any regulations as such. We've had an inspection where it was less than 10 minutes notice the first teacher got. Teachers were told to cancel tests. I'm just curious as to whether there is any written agreement on things like this


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    Jamfa
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    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if there is a breakdown of how an incidental inspection should be run? Arrival time at the school, times that teacher gets told, cancelling class tests etc

    Have you seen this guide to Incidental Inspections: https://www.education.ie/en/Publications/Inspection-Reports-Publications/Evaluation-Reports-Guidelines/insp_guide_incidental_inspection_second_level_2012_pdf.pdf


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    mirrorwall14
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    Jamfa wrote: »
    Have you seen this guide to Incidental Inspections: https://www.education.ie/en/Publications/Inspection-Reports-Publications/Evaluation-Reports-Guidelines/insp_guide_incidental_inspection_second_level_2012_pdf.pdf

    No I hadn't thank you.

    Interesting to note it says draft timetable to be provided as soon as possible after arrival. It was 50 minutes in our last one and less than 10 to the first inspection.

    I personally have a huge problem with being told to cancel tests as has happened in our school.


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    joebloggs32
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    If you had a test planned, how can they then expect you to teach a planned out class! Lunacy.


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    aratsarse101
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    SligoBrewer wrote: »
    I had an incidental inspection and had to cancel a class test.


    I actually don't understand. Who tells you to cancel the class test?


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    mirrorwall14
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    aratsarse101 wrote: »
    I actually don't understand. Who tells you to cancel the class test?

    The inspector insisted that the class test be cancelled


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    RealJohn
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    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    The inspector insisted that the class test be cancelled
    I'd be inclined to tell them where to go. I can't speak for everyone but if I tell my students they have a test, half of them will come in without any books and will only bring what they think they'll need for the test, not to mention that inspections aren't supposed to disrupt the running of the school anyway. I don't know what my principal would say but I'd be inclined to find out, if I was in that position.


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    r93kaey5p2izun
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    Shocked to hear you were told to cancel a test! How unprofessional. The students would be unprepared for the lesson, you would not have prepared materials. You may want the test to inform your planning. And it's unfair to mess the students around if they had prepared for a test.


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    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Miles Rich Arch wrote: »
    Shocked to hear you were told to cancel a test! How unprofessional. The students would be unprepared for the lesson, you would not have prepared materials. You may want the test to inform your planning. And it's unfair to mess the students around if they had prepared for a test.

    Not me, another teacher in the school. I thought it was unprofessional myself. And thought the length of time it took the inspector to let the teachers know was ridiculously slow too


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    political analyst
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    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Not me, another teacher in the school. I thought it was unprofessional myself. And thought the length of time it took the inspector to let the teachers know was ridiculously slow too
    If an inspector acts unprofessionally then you should take it up with the Ombudsman, who holds civil servants to account (Inspectors are civil servants).


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