Nvidia Launch

Gerard_Smith

Can someone explain to me what on earth the point of going with the founders edition is? As far as I can see you are paying more for less. That single 8-pin connecter is going to hurt OC-ing down the line.

Zillah

salamanca22 wrote: »

Yep, your motherboard might still be on pci-e 2.0 but there is still plenty of life left in that. You will be fine.

I have this. It says this:

1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16 (PCIEX16)

Edit: Googling would suggest based on the age of the motherboard alone that I must have 3.0.

tuxy

Gerard_Smith wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what on earth the point of going with the founders edition is?

You get the gtx 1080 3 weeks before everyone else.

Nedved85

tuxy wrote: »

You get the gtx 1080 3 weeks before everyone else.

Pretty much! I'm waiting for the custom ones anyways!

tuxy

If they had released all at once there may have been a shortage. Now the people that can't wait will pay but most people will wait. I'm not sure as many people will pay for the founders edition as they had banked on but no big loss they are still getting their new line of gpu out before the competition.

xtal191

Zillah wrote: »

I have this. It says this:


Edit: Googling would suggest based on the age of the motherboard alone that I must have 3.0.

It says on that page

3 x PCI Express x1 slots
(All PCI Express x1 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)

Calibos

Just pre-ordered the Asus ROG Strix RGB Aura thingamajigwhatchamacallit.

2x HMDI and 2x DP and a DVI (Only GTX1080 with 2x HDMI afaik. Want it for monitor and Oculus Rift)

For the Strix to be the least tacky custom cooler it just shows what monstrosities most of the rest are.

8+6 power pins

RGB's will go well with my case theme.

Apparently the shroud is modular so I think I'll be able to remove and paint various details.

2 PWM fan headers on the card for powering and controlling case fans based on GPU rather than mobo/cpu temps. I'll have 2 intake
fans beside the card. It'll be nice for the GPU to control them itself.

Can't wait. Neither can my Rift. It'll be stewing in its box till I get a GPU

FAILSAFE 00

Calibos wrote: »

Just pre-ordered the Asus ROG Strix RGB Aura thingamajigwhatchamacallit.

2x HMDI and 2x DP and a DVI (Only GTX1080 with 2x HDMI afaik. Want it for monitor and Oculus Rift)

For the Strix to be the least tacky custom cooler it just shows what monstrosities most of the rest are.

8+6 power pins

RGB's will go well with my case theme.

Apparently the shroud is modular so I think I'll be able to remove and paint various details.

2 PWM fan headers on the card for powering and controlling case fans based on GPU rather than mobo/cpu temps. I'll have 2 intake
fans beside the card. It'll be nice for the GPU to control them itself.

Can't wait. Neither can my Rift. It'll be stewing in its box till I get a GPU

Jaysus, thats some spend, over €800 :eek:

Nedved85

Calibos wrote: »

Just pre-ordered the Asus ROG Strix RGB Aura thingamajigwhatchamacallit.

2x HMDI and 2x DP and a DVI (Only GTX1080 with 2x HDMI afaik. Want it for monitor and Oculus Rift)

For the Strix to be the least tacky custom cooler it just shows what monstrosities most of the rest are.

8+6 power pins

RGB's will go well with my case theme.

Apparently the shroud is modular so I think I'll be able to remove and paint various details.

2 PWM fan headers on the card for powering and controlling case fans based on GPU rather than mobo/cpu temps. I'll have 2 intake
fans beside the card. It'll be nice for the GPU to control them itself.

Can't wait. Neither can my Rift. It'll be stewing in its box till I get a GPU

Nice, where did you pre order?

Zillah

xtal191 wrote: »

It says on that page

That's just the x1 slots.

I googled it and it turns out GPU-Z has it right there - I'm on 3.0.

Calibos

Nedved85 wrote: »

Nice, where did you pre order?

Overclockers. They're €799 in Europe. I chose to spend the extra few quid with an English speaking company with renowned CS after my brothers painful GPU RMA experiences with HVS in germany a few years ago with the language barrier.

Nedved85

Some of the evga cards are up for preorder on their site now. No mention of a release date.

Gerard_Smith

Nedved85 wrote: »

Some of the evga cards are up for preorder on their site now. No mention of a release date.

Interesting that even the one-down-from-the-top FTW is still cheaper than the FE. The Founders Edition is a lovely looking card but I still don't get why Nvidia are charging more for it.

Edit: Also I have a feeling in my gut whatever AMD announces (possible) in the next few days is going to trash the 1080 at DX12 and Vulcan.

Nedved85

Gerard_Smith wrote: »

Interesting that even the one-down-from-the-top FTW is still cheaper than the FE. The Founders Edition is a lovely looking card but I still don't get why Nvidia are charging more for it.

Edit: Also I have a feeling in my gut whatever AMD announces (possible) in the next few days is going to trash the 1080 at DX12 and Vulcan.

Yeah, it makes no sense at all to buy the founders edition.

Unfortunately I like using my nvidia shield android tv.. So I'm sucked into the nvidia ecosystem

Shiminay

These "founders editions" are nothing more than foaming at the mouth more money than sense numpty tax

Gerard_Smith

Do EVGA charge immediately on pre-orders or do they wait until the item is shipping?

Kirby

They charge upon shipping. I ordered a 1080 SC for 745 including shipping today. It hasn't shipped yet. Might take a few days.

I've bought direct from the EVGA website for years. They have great customer support....which is really rare for a European tech company tbh.

They also run a step-up program. If you buy a card or mobo or whatever and then a few months down the line a new one comes out and you feel burned, you send them the old one back and pay the difference for the new one.

Nedved85

Kirby wrote: »

They charge upon shipping. I ordered a 1080 SC for 745 including shipping today. It hasn't shipped yet. Might take a few days.

I've bought direct from the EVGA website for years. They have great customer support....which is really rare for a European tech company tbh.

They also run a step-up program. If you buy a card or mobo or whatever and then a few months down the line a new one comes out and you feel burned, you send them the old one back and pay the difference for the new one.

Preordered the ftw one, it'll be more than a few days before they start shipping I'd say...?

Kirby

Some in the evga forums have had theirs shipped already. It might take a while for some but I'm not expecting longer than a week.

Nedved85

Kirby wrote: »

Some in the evga forums have had theirs shipped already. It might take a while for some but I'm not expecting longer than a week.

Fantastic stuff! Evga on the ball again.

Nedved85

Just found this from an evga mod on their forum:

"EVGATech_ChrisB
Hi Everyone,

I can confirm that you can purchase the GTX 1080 Founders edition from EVGA.com while supplies last at .

The GTX 1080 SC and FTW cards should be available for shipment about Mid-June.

Thank you everyone for your patience. "

Gerard_Smith

Nedved85 wrote: »

Just found this from an evga mod on their forum:

"EVGATech_ChrisB
Hi Everyone,

I can confirm that you can purchase the GTX 1080 Founders edition from EVGA.com while supplies last at .

The GTX 1080 SC and FTW cards should be available for shipment about Mid-June.

Thank you everyone for your patience. "

That sounds right. The FTW doesn't even have a confirmed shipping clock speed yet.

Kirby

It does actually. It leaked today. Oddly, it's only 13 MHz higher than the SC. Not very impressive tbh.

Gerard_Smith

Kirby wrote: »

It does actually. It leaked today. Oddly, it's only 13 MHz higher than the SC. Not very impressive tbh.

But with the FTW you're paying for the higher overclocking potential not the out-of-the-box clock right?

Kirby

Absolutely. In theory. But overclocking is not guaranteed.....the only thing guaranteed is the base clock on the card.

And there are those who are suspicious of the fact that the base clock of the FTW is only 13 MHz higher than the SC, for EVGA anyway. It leads to theories that many FTW wont be good overclockers because if they were, surely the stock would be higher? And that the base is all certain binned FTW will be able to achieve and yet they will still charge a premium for it.....because users will assume it can go higher.

I'm not sure I subscribe to that theory but I will admit I was shocked at how much lower the EVGA FTW is than some of the other brands. It makes sense from a business stand point though for sure.

gizmo

Seems odd that they'd go to the bother of reworking the power system with two 8-pin connectors just for a 13Mhz clock boost though, no?

Kirby

But they charge more for it. And by lowering the standard needed for a "FTW" card, they can sell a ton more.

FAILSAFE 00

Kirby wrote: »

It does actually. It leaked today. Oddly, it's only 13 MHz higher than the SC. Not very impressive tbh.

Is it genuine though??

Seems a bit nuts for only 13 mhz

Zillah

Pretty sure I'm just going to get the cheapest version possible, because the more I hear the more I'm convinced that the variations between 1080 models will be trivial.

FAILSAFE 00

Zillah wrote: »

Pretty sure I'm just going to get the cheapest version possible, because the more I hear the more I'm convinced that the variations between 1080 models will be trivial.

I am kind of thinking which ever one keeps it cool and cheap of course

jumbobreakfast

Shiminay wrote: »

These "founders editions" are nothing more than foaming at the mouth more money than sense numpty tax

I wonder if that's why OCUK are adverting this with the 1080s:

http://imgur.com/v0gkkSK

You can check yourself, this item only shows up when you filter for 1080s and it costs £10.80:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia/geforce-gtx-1080

Skerries

1070 potentially faster than Titan X and 980Ti

gizmo

Skerries wrote: »

1070 potentially faster than Titan X and 980Ti

Hothardware have their review up too. Slightly different results on the 980Ti front due to this...

Please note, that the GeForce GTX 980 Ti used here is the ASUS STRIX, which is factory overclocked. We used this card because we feel it better represents the type of 980 Ti enthusiasts are likely to own today, in lieu of lower-clocked reference cards.

Nedved85

FYI

Two of the evga cards have moved from "Pre Order" to "Add to cart"

http://eu.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080

Zillah

As someone who had decided the 1070 is better value I don't appreciate you dangling temptation in my face like this!

Nedved85

Zillah wrote: »

As someone who had decided the 1070 is better value I don't appreciate you dangling temptation in my face like this!

Apologies You may aswell get the cheapest 1080 from evga, Not bad at 680 :P

Zillah

"Add to Cart" has changed to "Pre-order" now!

Branoic

My over-priced founders edition is sitting under the front seat of my car

Branoic

Branoic wrote: »

My over-priced founders edition is sitting under the front seat of my car

You need to be careful about where you park.
Let us know where you are so we can do a security check!

pleasant Co.

Branoic wrote: »

My over-priced founders edition is was sitting under the front seat of my car

Thaaaaaaanks

FAILSAFE 00

Branoic wrote: »

My over-priced founders edition is sitting under the front seat of my car

Not much ventilation there

The Randy Riverbeast

Nobody cares about the 1070 for us plebs.

Icyseanfitz

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Not much ventilation there

He's right you know, very warm out at the moment! Could melt in the box...

FAILSAFE 00

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

He's right you know, very warm out at the moment! Could melt in the box...

I bet he didn't even leave it some water, cruel bastard

Branoic

So I've got Windows 10, and prior to the 1080 I had a 780ti. My old card was running fine, never had any driver issues after the Windows 10 upgrade last year etc.

I installed my new GTX 1080 last night and ran into an error when updating the driver, "This NVIDIA graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows."

I uninstalled everything related to NVIDIA on the system, rebooted, downloaded a fresh copy of GForce Experience and redownloaded the driver, but I've still got the same issue.

Ri_Nollaig

Branoic wrote: »

So I've got Windows 10, and prior to the 1080 I had a 780ti. My old card was running fine, never had any driver issues after the Windows 10 upgrade last year etc.

I installed my new GTX 1080 last night and ran into an error when updating the driver, "This NVIDIA graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows."

I uninstalled everything related to NVIDIA on the system, rebooted, downloaded a fresh copy of GForce Experience and redownloaded the driver, but I've still got the same issue.

...crap, and that's the exact same upgrade route I'll be taking [waiting on my EVGA ACX version]
Perhaps try one of those driver cleaners and reinstall the latest?
I did have an odd issue a few updates back with nvidia drivers and needed to do that.

used this one by the way -> link

Spear

Branoic wrote: »

So I've got Windows 10, and prior to the 1080 I had a 780ti. My old card was running fine, never had any driver issues after the Windows 10 upgrade last year etc.

I installed my new GTX 1080 last night and ran into an error when updating the driver, "This NVIDIA graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows."

I uninstalled everything related to NVIDIA on the system, rebooted, downloaded a fresh copy of GForce Experience and redownloaded the driver, but I've still got the same issue.

Is that with version 368.25? I don't know if that's being offered via Geforce Experience currently.

Branoic

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

Branoic wrote: »

So I've got Windows 10, and prior to the 1080 I had a 780ti. My old card was running fine, never had any driver issues after the Windows 10 upgrade last year etc.

I installed my new GTX 1080 last night and ran into an error when updating the driver, "This NVIDIA graphics driver is not compatible with this version of Windows."

I uninstalled everything related to NVIDIA on the system, rebooted, downloaded a fresh copy of GForce Experience and redownloaded the driver, but I've still got the same issue.

...crap, and that's the exact same upgrade route I'll be taking [waiting on my EVGA ACX version]
Perhaps try one of those driver cleaners and reinstall the latest?
I did have an odd issue a few updates back with nvidia drivers and needed to do that.

used this one by the way -> link

Yeah that seems to be the first step recommended on Reddit / support forums. I'll get and run DDU at lunch time today when I'm back home.

Zillah

Windows 10 is an absolute bastard when it comes to drivers. I spent an hour trying to stop it from overwriting my Geforce driver with one from mid 2015.

Branoic

Zillah wrote: »

Windows 10 is an absolute bastard when it comes to drivers. I spent an hour trying to stop it from overwriting my Geforce driver with one from mid 2015.

I think my issue might be related to the fact that I've had automatic Windows updates disabled, so Windows 10 itself hasn't updated since I got it. There's apparently a November 2015 Windows update which is needed for the graphics driver. I left my PC applying that Windows update at lunch so hopefully I should have a working 1080 shortly after I get home from work this evening.