Nvidia GTX 10xx Discussion Thread

Redfox25

challengemaster wrote: »

You'd wonder is it really miscalculation, or are they trying to force peoples hands who are impatient and willing to pay just to get the card ASAP

Its a good question actually. Some folks will pay anything for something new and shiny, which if we are being honest, the new cards are. They are super powerful and much better than the older cards.

It might also be an attempt to force up the market price for this segment as they know AMD wont have a card* to compete for another few months so make lots of money in the meantime.

*I know that the 480CF will compete on paper with the 1080 for less cash but CF rarely works as well as it should/could in gaming.

Venom

Redfox25 wrote: »

Its a good question actually. Some folks will pay anything for something new and shiny, which if we are being honest, the new cards are. They are super powerful and much better than the older cards.

It might also be an attempt to force up the market price for this segment as they know AMD wont have a card* to compete for another few months so make lots of money in the meantime.

*I know that the 480CF will compete on paper with the 1080 for less cash but CF rarely works as well as it should/could in gaming.

From a PR/marketing perspective Nvidia have played a blinder. They got the info out at the press conference about the power and power consumption of the new GPU's along with all the driver/software goodness like better VR performance, screenshot ability, VR/3D sound and better multi-monitor support.

They have set themselves up for the future as a hardware vendor for the FE cards and at a premium to boot. They have increased the pricing for their mid range to mid high end tier products which sucks for us consumers but great for them as a business. The scarcity of both FE and AIB cards and there prices sucks balls but has generated tons of buzz.

The only screwup I can see is their flip flopping around SLI support for more than 2 cards.

AMD on the other hand have made a mess of things so far by saying bugger all and will leave tons of people disappointed when the dust has settled I reckon.

ShaneU

Just checked my emails, 2 hours ago EVGA had the 1080 sc in stock, gone now

1070 founders edition is still there for anyone interested http://eu.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6170-KR

They're selling their basic acx card at just €10 below the founders.

stefanovich

Keggers2 wrote:

My whole thing is VRAM because I do whole bunch of rendering of 4K footage

What about a 980ti?

MarkAnthony

stefanovich wrote: »

What about a 980ti?

Still 'only' 6GB

Keggers2

Aaah the 980tis are now pretty much the same price as the 1070s, and if I'm gonna get the 980ti, I'd be as well shilling out at the inflated price of the 1070 yenno?

Whereas with a 390/X I don't feel like I'm getting my arm quite as twisted


EDIT*...is that absolutely daft logic?

Venom

Keggers2 wrote: »

Aaah the 980tis are now pretty much the same price as the 1070s, and if I'm gonna get the 980ti, I'd be as well shilling out at the inflated price of the 1070 yenno?

Whereas with a 390/X I don't feel like I'm getting my arm quite as twisted


EDIT*...is that absolutely daft logic?

Well the 1070 offers 980Ti performance and all the features of the new Nvidia software which may or may not work on older cards but I wouldn't bet on it.

Praetorian

Zillah wrote: »

980 is already above the recommended spec for the Rift - why would you go to the bother of upgrading?

My screen is a 34 inch 3440 x 1440 monster, so I could do with the extra horse power. Got a good price for my 980. Also I'm not sensible

1070 is faster than the 980ti and uses less power, I wouldn't buy a 980ti now even it was the same price.

Pushtrak

Praetorian wrote: »

1070 is faster than the 980ti and uses less power, I wouldn't buy a 980ti now even it was the same price.

Neither would I. The resell value of a 980 Ti in say, a year would likely not compare very well to the 1070 you'd imagine.

TireeTerror

Praetorian wrote: »

My screen is a 34 inch 3440 x 1440 monster, so I could do with the extra horse power. Got a good price for my 980. Also I'm not sensible

1070 is faster than the 980ti and uses less power, I wouldn't buy a 980ti now even it was the same price.

The display size doesn't make any difference, in fact 34" is a useless size for using as a PC monitor, its far too big. You would either have to move your head around or move the screen way back. For gaming, a complete waste of money. It would be ok for driving games or for Fifa, but for FPS its no use.

MarkAnthony

TireeTerror wrote: »

The display size doesn't make any difference, in fact 34" is a useless size for using as a PC monitor, its far too big. You would either have to move your head around or move the screen way back. For gaming, a complete waste of money. It would be ok for driving games or for Fifa, but for FPS its no use.

I couldn't disagree more. The sense of immersion is excellent, it's better for day to day work and you can always use it as a 2560x1440p if you want to.

TireeTerror

MarkAnthony wrote: »

I couldn't disagree more. The sense of immersion is excellent, it's better for day to day work and you can always use it as a 2560x1440p if you want to.

Immersion is better, but performance gaming is not. Reducing it to 2560 is a decent enough idea though, although sort of wasteful at the same time. Its great for movie watching though. Biggest issue is FPS is not high enough, 60hz is old school these days.

Dair76

100Hz 3440x1440 panels are availabler, with 144Hz variants on the way.

MarkAnthony

TireeTerror wrote: »

Immersion is better, but performance gaming is not. Reducing it to 2560 is a decent enough idea though, although sort of wasteful at the same time. Its great for movie watching though. Biggest issue is FPS is not high enough, 60hz is old school these days.

It's entirely subjective to the user. I run my panel at 80Hz and I've seen 100Hz panels, it makes little to no difference to me.

There is no one size/refresh fits all for monitors.

Zen 2nd

MarkAnthony wrote:

It's entirely subjective to the user. I run my panel at 80Hz and I've seen 100Hz panels, it makes little to no difference to me.

MarkAnthony wrote:

There is no one size/refresh fits all for monitors.

Yeah I run 3440x1440 at 100Hz myself and I find it brilliant. Though my screen is curved so easier to see it all at once.

TireeTerror

TireeTerror wrote: »

The display size doesn't make any difference, in fact 34" is a useless size for using as a PC monitor, its far too big. You would either have to move your head around or move the screen way back. For gaming, a complete waste of money. It would be ok for driving games or for Fifa, but for FPS its no use.

What a ridiculous comment. You do realise that not everyone plays their games sat inches from the monitor.

challengemaster

Deleted User wrote: »

What a ridiculous comment. You do realise that not everyone plays their games sat inches from the monitor.

It doesn't really matter though. If you're talking about competitive FPS games, you want as little head/eye movement as possible. The bigger the screen you're actually shooting yourself in the foot tbh. It means your HUD/radar/etc get moved way off centre and you have to take your eyes off the important area of the screen (where your crosshair is) to check them which means slower reaction times, which probably means death.

challengemaster

challengemaster wrote: »

It doesn't really matter though. If you're talking about competitive FPS games, you want as little head/eye movement as possible. The bigger the screen you're actually shooting yourself in the foot tbh. It means your HUD/radar/etc get moved way off centre and you have to take your eyes off the important area of the screen (where your crosshair is) to check them which means slower reaction times, which probably means death.

Except he stated that it's no good for gaming (as a whole) except maybe FIFA or Driving.
How many people are competitive FPSers?
I, for example, hate them. Load of ****.

Love being able to sit back comfortably and play.
Fighting games, soorts, 3rd person, open world, sim games all feel more relaxed to me in larger screen

MarkAnthony

Deleted User wrote: »

Except he stated that it's no good for gaming (as a whole) except maybe FIFA or Driving.
How many people are competitive FPSers?
I, for example, hate them. Load of ****.

Love being able to sit back comfortably and play.
Fighting games, soorts, 3rd person, open world, sim games all feel more relaxed to me in larger screen

two videos going... :pac:

challengemaster

Deleted User wrote: »

Except he stated that it's no good for gaming (as a whole) except maybe FIFA or Driving.
How many people are competitive FPSers?
I, for example, hate them. Load of ****.

Love being able to sit back comfortably and play.
Fighting games, soorts, 3rd person, open world, sim games all feel more relaxed to me in larger screen

Depends what your primary "gaming" is, I guess. In fairness he did stipulate FPS games later in the post...and not everyone loves walking simulators :pac:

I'm unsure what to go for myself. I'm only using a 27" 1080p 60hz and I've no intention of upgrading any time soon, so I'm well aware even a 970 would suffice... but damn the allure of a 1070 has me interested. Especially because it's a whole new rig...

LWGDion

Hello, I am going to buy a 1070 soon but I am not sure which one to get. Can anyone give me some recommendations on which one to get?

Dair76

LWGDion wrote: »

Hello, I am going to buy a 1070 soon but I am not sure which one to get. Can anyone give me some recommendations on which one to get?

Depends on a few factors. Do you want a pre-overcolcked one? Is quiet computing important? Aesthetics? How good is your case airflow? Etc etc.

Venom

LWGDion wrote: »

Hello, I am going to buy a 1070 soon but I am not sure which one to get. Can anyone give me some recommendations on which one to get?

Well seeing as Pascal doesn't seem to be as great as previous generations for overclocking and the difference between cheapest to most expensive AIB card tends to be just a few fps, I reckon you should look up reviews of the lower end AIB cards and pick the one with the quietest fans unless you really need to match the colors of your card to the rest of your system.

LWGDion

Venom wrote: »

Well seeing as Pascal doesn't seem to be as great as previous generations for overclocking and the difference between cheapest to most expensive AIB card tends to be just a few fps, I reckon you should look up reviews of the lower end AIB cards and pick the one with the quietest fans unless you really need to match the colors of your card to the rest of your system.

OK I will have a look at them. Thanks for the help

MarkAnthony

Venom wrote: »

Well seeing as Pascal doesn't seem to be as great as previous generations for overclocking and the difference between cheapest to most expensive AIB card tends to be just a few fps, I reckon you should look up reviews of the lower end AIB cards and pick the one with the quietest fans unless you really need to match the colors of your card to the rest of your system.

+1 there's very little to chose between them in terms of the actual unit.

The 1070s *might* be a different story as you've more work to do to get them to 2Ghz but really you're not going to see one card much better than the other.

K.O.Kiki

KFA2 / Galax are actually quite a decent brand, despite also being cheap.

emo72

http://eu.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6286-KR

lads if i order from this site do i get hit for import tax and duty? its the euro version of the site, but not sure where its shipped from.

MarkAnthony

emo72 wrote: »

http://eu.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6286-KR

lads if i order from this site do i get hit for import tax and duty? its the euro version of the site, but not sure where its shipped from.

Germany so you might see a few % (4% IIRC) added on but scroll up the thread for discussion on EVGA availability. Also, practically speaking, the only reason to go for the FTW over the SC version is purely the RGB LEDs.

cherryghost

My MSI 1070 is in Athlone depo HYYYPEEE

TheDoc

Things have a funny way of working out.

I was selling an Airsoft rifle to fund originally an IPad, then kicked that idea for a GFX. Typically Airsoft sales can be slow tedious affairs for some quality stuff I sell. Thankfully a wonderful individual is buying something in full, everything included. And that sale in my head was to fund a 1070.

So might well be pulling the trigger on mine next week, and not overly fussy about waiting on the prices to settle.